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Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:49 am
by ghostjmf
So I was eating lunch & my throat swelled up.
I have a few food intolerances; these I am told are strictly speaking not allergies, as they don't involve the immune system; they involve my for whatever reason not having the enzymes to digest stuff which builds up & doesn't agree with me, as in "bathroom for hours".
OK, this was not that. This was "throat swells up". Definitely an immune response, from the description. I could breath all the while, but while I didn't feel at all nauseated, could not swallow, & felt like I was on autopilot to "antiswallow". And the food in question, while somewhat exotic to mid-USA, is something they eat lots of in other parts of the world, certainly something I've eaten varieties of before, &, worse, yet, is very closely related to a USA food staple I've been eating all my life, & really like. Well, but not fried, like this relative usually is when served at street fairs & such.
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:58 am
by sunflower
Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:02 am
by Bob78164
ghostjmf wrote:So I was eating lunch & my throat swelled up.
Yikes! Sounds scary. I'm glad you're okay. --Bob
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:06 am
by ghostjmf
sunflower:
Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
This is the internet. Dangerous people out there.
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:11 am
by ghostjmf
Bob78164 says:
Yikes! Sounds scary. I'm glad you're okay.
Thanks. I calmed down as soon as I realized I could still breath.
My doctor wouldn't prescribe an epi-pen for another allergy I have that definitely
is an allergy, & has made other body parts swell in the past, but never my throat. They said "we can't prescribe epi-pens unless your throat swells up". I did tell them that when it did, it would probably be too late for me to tell them. Well, this is an entirely different source, but I think I should be getting the epi-pen for this.
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:19 am
by SportsFan68
ghostjmf wrote:Bob78164 says:
Yikes! Sounds scary. I'm glad you're okay.
Thanks. I calmed down as soon as I realized I could still breath.
My doctor wouldn't prescribe an epi-pen for another allergy I have that definitely
is an allergy, & has made other body parts swell in the past, but never my throat. They said "we can't prescribe epi-pens unless your throat swells up". I did tell them that when it did, it would probably be too late for me to tell them. Well, this is an entirely different source, but I think I should be getting the epi-pen for this.
Yes, you should. What's the food, if you don't mind saying?
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:30 am
by PlacentiaSoccerMom
ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:30 am
by Jeemie
sunflower wrote:Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Not at all. It made perfect sense to me.
Maybe you haven't read enough of CrypticNameDropper's posts to understand them yet.
PS In all seriousness, ghost, glad you are OK.
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:31 am
by Jeemie
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?
Well, she does whack avatars with a baseball bat...
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:31 am
by peacock2121
SportsFan68 wrote:ghostjmf wrote:Bob78164 says:
Yikes! Sounds scary. I'm glad you're okay.
Thanks. I calmed down as soon as I realized I could still breath.
My doctor wouldn't prescribe an epi-pen for another allergy I have that definitely
is an allergy, & has made other body parts swell in the past, but never my throat. They said "we can't prescribe epi-pens unless your throat swells up". I did tell them that when it did, it would probably be too late for me to tell them. Well, this is an entirely different source, but I think I should be getting the epi-pen for this.
Yes, you should. What's the food, if you don't mind saying?
You should be jumping up and down and insisting that you get one. Hope you never have to use it and have one just in case.
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:00 pm
by wintergreen48
ghostjmf wrote:So I was eating lunch & my throat swelled up.
I have a few food intolerances; these I am told are strictly speaking not allergies, as they don't involve the immune system; they involve my for whatever reason not having the enzymes to digest stuff which builds up & doesn't agree with me, as in "bathroom for hours".
OK, this was not that. This was "throat swells up". Definitely an immune response, from the description. I could breath all the while, but while I didn't feel at all nauseated, could not swallow, & felt like I was on autopilot to "antiswallow". And the food in question, while somewhat exotic to mid-USA, is something they eat lots of in other parts of the world, certainly something I've eaten varieties of before, &, worse, yet, is very closely related to a USA food staple I've been eating all my life, & really like. Well, but not fried, like this relative usually is when served at street fairs & such.
Well, now that you are (thankfully) recovered from it, may we ask, is this a 'chronic' or an 'acute' problem?
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:03 pm
by littlebeast13
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?
It's just one small step removed from feeding "special peanut butter" to squirrels......
lb13
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:03 pm
by Chronic Diarrhea
wintergreen48 wrote:ghostjmf wrote:So I was eating lunch & my throat swelled up.
I have a few food intolerances; these I am told are strictly speaking not allergies, as they don't involve the immune system; they involve my for whatever reason not having the enzymes to digest stuff which builds up & doesn't agree with me, as in "bathroom for hours".
OK, this was not that. This was "throat swells up". Definitely an immune response, from the description. I could breath all the while, but while I didn't feel at all nauseated, could not swallow, & felt like I was on autopilot to "antiswallow". And the food in question, while somewhat exotic to mid-USA, is something they eat lots of in other parts of the world, certainly something I've eaten varieties of before, &, worse, yet, is very closely related to a USA food staple I've been eating all my life, & really like. Well, but not fried, like this relative usually is when served at street fairs & such.
Well, now that you are (thankfully) recovered from it, may we ask, is this a 'chronic' or an 'acute' problem?
My problem is chronic.....
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:17 pm
by sunflower
ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
This is the internet. Dangerous people out there.
Not sure what this has to do with anything, but don't worry, I'll never make you any cookies. So my "ilk" and I (or is it me and my ilk?) can put whatever we want in them, I guess. That should clear that up.

Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:19 pm
by sunflower
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?
News to me, too...but I guess you should be careful if I ever send you cookies...dangerous people out there, and all...
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:21 pm
by littlebeast13
sunflower wrote:PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?
News to me, too...but I guess you should be careful if I ever send you cookies...dangerous people out there, and all...
I'll take my chances.....
lb13
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:22 pm
by sunflower
Jeemie wrote:sunflower wrote:Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Not at all. It made perfect sense to me.
Maybe you haven't read enough of CrypticNameDropper's posts to understand them yet.
PS In all seriousness, ghost, glad you are OK.
What's the food then? Or even the closely related USA food staple?
Oh, and since when is Boston mid-USA?
I think my confusion is at least sort of understandable...
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:23 pm
by littlebeast13
sunflower wrote:Jeemie wrote:sunflower wrote:Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Not at all. It made perfect sense to me.
Maybe you haven't read enough of CrypticNameDropper's posts to understand them yet.
PS In all seriousness, ghost, glad you are OK.
What's the food then? Or even the closely related USA food staple?
Oh, and since when is Boston mid-USA?
I think my confusion is at least sort of understandable...
I think she was having flashbacks to her days in Hometown, Ohio....
lb13
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:23 pm
by Bob78164
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?
That's not how I understand ghost's post. I think she's saying that in light of the enmity between her and sunflower, she wouldn't be offering cooking advice because she'd never partake of sunflower's offerings, and if she did so inadvertently, she wouldn't critique the recipe. By analogy, it's a surprise to ghost that sunflower is reading ghost's posts, much less offering advice on how to present her thoughts. --Bob
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:26 pm
by sunflower
Bob78164 wrote:PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?
That's not how I understand ghost's post. I think she's saying that in light of the enmity between her and sunflower, she wouldn't be offering cooking advice because she'd never partake of sunflower's offerings, and if she did so inadvertently, she wouldn't critique the recipe. By analogy, it's a surprise to ghost that sunflower is reading ghost's posts, much less offering advice on how to present her thoughts. --Bob
I actually didn't offer any advice, I just made an observation.
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:30 pm
by wintergreen48
Bob78164 wrote:PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?
That's not how I understand ghost's post. I think she's saying that in light of the enmity between her and sunflower, she wouldn't be offering cooking advice because she'd never partake of sunflower's offerings, and if she did so inadvertently, she wouldn't critique the recipe. By analogy, it's a surprise to ghost that sunflower is reading ghost's posts, much less offering advice on how to present her thoughts. --Bob
No, seems pretty clear that what she is saying is that she would generally avoid eating internet cookies (ha ha, kind of an internet joke, you know, 'cookies') (oh, I kill myself sometimes) (now where was I... oh, yes), she would not generally eat cookies in the mail, but since she might accidentally eat some cookies that she receives in the mail, she will not tell Sunflower what it is that makes her throat close up, because Sunflower and her ilk would put 'whatever it is' into the cookies that ghost might accidentally eat, and she would get all choked up, but not in a good way, and it might become acute or chronic or something.
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:34 pm
by Jeemie
sunflower wrote:Jeemie wrote:sunflower wrote:Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Not at all. It made perfect sense to me.
Maybe you haven't read enough of CrypticNameDropper's posts to understand them yet.
PS In all seriousness, ghost, glad you are OK.
What's the food then? Or even the closely related USA food staple?
Oh, and since when is Boston mid-USA?
I think my confusion is at least sort of understandable...
You just need to ignore that stuff.
She ate something. Her throat swelled up. She worried she would suffocate, but she never stopped breathing.
Eventually her swelling went down, and now she's looking to get an epi-pen in case it happens again...because the doctors wouldn't give her one until her throat ever swelled up (and luckily, waiting for that to happen wasn't "too late" for her).
Where she lives and what she ate are irrelevant to what she wanted to communicate, and dangerous to send out over the Web anyway.
How hard is that to understand?

Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:36 pm
by Estonut
sunflower wrote:So my "ilk" and I (or is it me and my ilk?) can put whatever we want in them, I guess.
In this case, it would be "My 'ilk' and I can put whatever ..."
Courtesy dictates that you put yourself second in that clause.
Grammar dictates that you think of the sentence without the other party when deciding whether to use "and I" or "and me."
For example:
Fanny and I chatted with lb13 last night.
NOT "Fanny and me chatted with lb13 last night."
lb13 flirted with
Fanny and me.
NOT "lb13 flirted with Fanny and I."
And I've now broken a ghostrule-for-everyone-but-ghost by dragging the 3 of them into this.
Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:39 pm
by sunflower
Estonut wrote:sunflower wrote:So my "ilk" and I (or is it me and my ilk?) can put whatever we want in them, I guess.
In this case, it would be "My 'ilk' and I can put whatever ..."
Courtesy dictates that you put yourself second in that clause.
Grammar dictates that you think of the sentence without the other party when deciding whether to use "and I" or "and me."
For example:
Fanny and I chatted with lb13 last night.
NOT "Fanny and me chatted with lb13 last night."
lb13 flirted with
Fanny and me.
NOT "lb13 flirted with Fanny and I."
And I've now broken a ghostrule-for-everyone-but-ghost by dragging the 3 of them into this.
Thanks...I knew the regular grammar rules, I just wondered if "ilk" had special grammar rules, it seemed like one of those words that just might...
And those were great examples!! LOL...

Re: Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:42 pm
by Estonut
sunflower wrote:I just wondered if "ilk" had special grammar rules
I believe "My ilk" can be contracted (contractioned?) to M'ilk...