Transcript 03/03/2009 Joyce Thomas

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Joyce Thomas
New Hyde Park, NY
Epidemiologist (Studies disease)
Specializes in breast cancer. When she was seven years old, her godmother died of it.

Topic Tree:
Man's Best Friend
Can I Quote You?
Movers and Shakers
Diamond Mines
Conversion Chart
Boning Up
Quip Trip
Girls Girls Girls
Tonic
Going Nowhere Fast
What's the Word?
Now Insulting!
The Partridge Family
Tutus
Pants on Fire


$100 (Pants on Fire):
A person who knowingly fails to tell the truth is said to be "lying through his" what?
A. Teeth B. Eyebrows
C. Belly button D. Term in Congress

Spoiler

A. Teeth (:07)

$200 (Tutus):
A short, funny skirt known as a "tutu" is commonly worn by what type of performer?
A. Trapeze artist B. Mime
C. Pianist D. Ballet dancer

Spoiler

D. Ballet dancer (:10)

$300 (The Partridge Family):
In a 1970 song by The Partridge Family, David Cassidy croons, "I think I" what?
A. Love you B. Remember You
C. Hear you D. Forgive You

Spoiler

A. Love you (:09)

$500 (Now Insulting!):
"You must have been something before electricity" is a playful jab at a person's what?
A. Income B. Age
C. Fashion sense D. Intelligence

ATA (:06)

ATA

A-0% B-78% C-4% D-18%

Spoiler

B. Age (:06)

$1000 (What's the Word?):
What's the singular form of the word "criteria"?
A. Criteriate B. Criterious
C. Criterion D. Criteriand

Spoiler

the clock runs down and she comes up with
C. Criterion (:02)

Meredith introduces today’s ATE, astrophysicist and director at the Hayden Planetarium, Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson.

$2000 (Going Nowhere Fast):
A controversial project debated by Congress for years, the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere" was actually a bridge to where?
A. Escanaba, MI B. Strawberry Island, MA
C. Ketchikan, AK D. Islesford, ME

Spoiler

C. Ketchikan, AK (:20)

$4000 (Tonic):
Tonic water is distinctively flavored because it contains what chemical?
A. Ephedrine B. Codeine
C. Morphine D. Quinine

Double Dip (:20)

Spoiler

Joyce's first answer is C, which is incorrect.

Joyce then asks for the Expert, and Meredith reminds her that the expert can't be used after a first DD answer.

Joyce then guesses B.

D. Quinine (:04)

Thousandaire

Commercial break

[Weyoun]

Gin and tonics would be far more popular had she been right.

[NellyLunatic1980]

Joyce Thomas
New Hyde Park, NY

WE®

$500: I couldn't come up with the answer within 15 seconds, either. I also had to burn the ATA.

I got everything else, though.

[earendel]

Joyce Thomas
New Hyde Park, NY
Epidemiologist (Studies disease)
Specializes in breast cancer. When she was seven years old, her godmother died of it.

I'm guessing this is in WE® territory.

$200 (Tutus):
A short, funny skirt known as a "tutu" is commonly worn by what type of performer?
A. Trapeze artist B. Mime
C. Pianist D. Ballet dancer

Former BAM contestant!

$500 (Now Insulting!):
"You must have been something before electricity" is a playful jab at a person's what?
A. Income B. Age
C. Fashion sense D. Intelligence

ATA (:06)

ATA

A-0% B-78% C-4% D-18%

Spoiler

B. Age (:06)

A pity that she had to use ATA at this level.

$4000 (Tonic):
Tonic water is distinctively flavored because it contains what chemical?
A. Ephedrine B. Codeine
C. Morphine D. Quinine

Double Dip (:20)

Spoiler

Joyce's first answer is C, which is incorrect.

Joyce then asks for the Expert, and Meredith reminds her that the expert can't be used after a first DD answer.

Joyce then guesses B.

D. Quinine (:04)

She's an epidemiologist; surely she knows that narcotics aren't likely to be served in tonic water.

Nihil obstat®.

[MarleysGh0st]

$2000 (Going Nowhere Fast):
A controversial project debated by Congress for years, the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere" was actually a bridge to where?
A. Escanaba, MI B. Strawberry Island, MA
C. Ketchikan, AK D. Islesford, ME

Spoiler

C. Ketchikan, AK (:20)

IIRC, it was a bridge to the airport outside Ketchikan.

[ghostjmf]

I've known about quinine being a preventative for malaria, & being the base of "tonic water" because of that, since I was a kid; its part of the lore of all those stories of explorers etc who fail to drink their quinine & wind up shaking with malarial bouts the rest of the book.

The contestant is a doctor. I'd like to think she knows about quinine as a preventative for malaria. Its the tonic water - quinine connection she didn't make. Is this one really an age thing?

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Epidemiologist (Studies disease)
Specializes in breast cancer.

I think this is a little strange, must be frustrating work.

[sunflower]

I've known about quinine being a preventative for malaria, & being the base of "tonic water" because of that, since I was a kid; its part of the lore of all those stories of explorers etc who fail to drink their quinine & wind up shaking with malarial bouts the rest of the book.

The contestant is a doctor. I'd like to think she knows about quinine as a preventative for malaria. Its the tonic water - quinine connection she didn't make. Is this one really an age thing?

I don't know, how old was she? I know there is quinine in tonic water, says it right on the bottle.

[SportsFan68]

I've known about quinine being a preventative for malaria, & being the base of "tonic water" because of that, since I was a kid; its part of the lore of all those stories of explorers etc who fail to drink their quinine & wind up shaking with malarial bouts the rest of the book.

The contestant is a doctor. I'd like to think she knows about quinine as a preventative for malaria. Its the tonic water - quinine connection she didn't make. Is this one really an age thing?

That seems strange to me too -- whenever I've traveled to someplace like Costa Rica, my GP prescribed the Chloraquine, so I have to think that all docs came into contact with it during their pre-specialization days. Doesn't seem like an age thing, but I don't know.

[ghostjmf]

Sunflower says:

I don't know, how old was she? I know there is quinine in tonic water, says it right on the bottle.

She looked younger than me! The point here is that I'd never seen a bottle of tonic water until I was an adult, & then I only drank some to see what it tasted like. Not a taste I would go for if I wasn't traveling in a malarial swamp somewhere.

Those who know the history of the treatment know quinine is the "tonic" in tonic water, even those who've never seen a bottle of tonic water to read.

[thguy65]

Not a good effort, but just because this contestant works in epidemiology does not mean she is a physician.
If she is a co-author of this article, then she has a Masters of Public Health degree.

[christie1111]

Well, Dr or not, the other 3 are drugs which you need a prescription for. Not something likely to be found in the soda aisle.

But the 'you must have been something before electricity' one would have had me ATA in a panic as the clock ticked away.

[MarleysGh0st]

Not a good effort, but just because this contestant works in epidemiology does not mean she is a physician.
If she is a co-author of this article, then she has a Masters of Public Health degree.

But as the first Bored doctor to respond to this thread, what's your opinion about whether all doctors should know that tonic water contains quinine? Wikipedia says quinine was superceded as the drug of choice for malaria back in the 1940s, so the historical knowledge related to that is somewhat out-of-date.

[MarleysGh0st]

But the 'you must have been something before electricity' one would have had me ATA in a panic as the clock ticked away.

How often is that phrase used these days, anyway?

[Rexer25]

But the 'you must have been something before electricity' one would have had me ATA in a panic as the clock ticked away.

How often is that phrase used these days, anyway?

Now you hear "You musta been something before the iPhone"

[thguy65]

But as the first Bored doctor to respond to this thread, what's your opinion about whether all doctors should know that tonic water contains quinine? Wikipedia says quinine was superceded as the drug of choice for malaria back in the 1940s, so the historical knowledge related to that is somewhat out-of-date.

Knowledge about the use of quinine and quinine derivatives was part of my pharmacology class in med school, and I suppose it would be at least a footnote in most MD training.
Newly-graduated MDs may not have heard much about quinine these days. The FDA prohibited the use of quinine in 2007 for treatment of leg cramps since it did not undergo any safety or efficacy testing in the previous many decades of use.

[christie1111]

But the 'you must have been something before electricity' one would have had me ATA in a panic as the clock ticked away.

How often is that phrase used these days, anyway?

Now you hear "You musta been something before the iPhone"

Maybe hearing the question would help. I sort of heard it as someone asking what a person would have done for a job before electricity if they were an electrician.

Sort of emphasis on the something.

[elwoodblues]

Rodney Dangerfield used the "you must have been something before electricity" line in Caddyshack. Of course that was almost 30 years ago.

[MarleysGh0st]

Rodney Dangerfield used the "you must have been something before electricity" line in Caddyshack. Of course that was almost 30 years ago.

He was no spring chicken at the time, either.

[elwoodblues]

Rodney Dangerfield used the "you must have been something before electricity" line in Caddyshack. Of course that was almost 30 years ago.

He was no spring chicken at the time, either.

He still gets no respect.

[Kazoo65]

Watching this lady was pathetic! In fact, the whole show yesterday was pathetic.

She really wasted her lifelines. The last straw was when she used the ATE on a POP CULTURE QUESTION which was WAY OUT of his field. I knew it because I read it in People Magazine. Come on, the guy's an astrophysicist, not a writer for Entertainment Weekly!

[TheConfessor]

Watching this lady was pathetic! In fact, the whole show yesterday was pathetic.

She really wasted her lifelines. The last straw was when she used the ATE on a POP CULTURE QUESTION which was WAY OUT of his field. I knew it because I read it in People Magazine. Come on, the guy's an astrophysicist, not a writer for Entertainment Weekly!

Actually, she never used her Ask The Expert lifeline. Perhaps you are thinking of a different contestant.

[Millionaire Fan]

Watching this lady was pathetic! In fact, the whole show yesterday was pathetic.

She really wasted her lifelines. The last straw was when she used the ATE on a POP CULTURE QUESTION which was WAY OUT of his field. I knew it because I read it in People Magazine. Come on, the guy's an astrophysicist, not a writer for Entertainment Weekly!

Actually, she never used her Ask The Expert lifeline. Perhaps you are thinking of a different contestant.

She tried to use Ask The Expert after she gave her first Double-Dip answer.

[megaaddict]

She's an epidemiologist; surely she knows that narcotics aren't likely to be served in tonic water.

My best guess is that due to hot-seat-itis or whatever "tonic water" just didn't click for her and she was thinking of it strictly as a form of medicine.

Moral of the story:

Double dipping in morphine and codeine can be hazardous to your health and wallet!

[tanstaafl2]

But as the first Bored doctor to respond to this thread, what's your opinion about whether all doctors should know that tonic water contains quinine? Wikipedia says quinine was superceded as the drug of choice for malaria back in the 1940s, so the historical knowledge related to that is somewhat out-of-date.

Knowledge about the use of quinine and quinine derivatives was part of my pharmacology class in med school, and I suppose it would be at least a footnote in most MD training.
Newly-graduated MDs may not have heard much about quinine these days. The FDA prohibited the use of quinine in 2007 for treatment of leg cramps since it did not undergo any safety or efficacy testing in the previous many decades of use.

As Tim noted the term "epidemiologist" is a very general one and here at CDC/ATSDR it can be someone with an MPH, PhD, nursing degree, MD/DO, some combination of these or even possibly some other kind of degree. I had one coworker whose background was a masters in anthropology but would likely regard herself as an epidemiologist.

Quinine was certainly mentioned at least in passing in my medical training too but I may well pre-date Tim's training so that doesn't help much to determine if it is mentioned in current day medical training! But I knew about quinine long before I got to medical school and don't think it is an obscure fact by any means. But it may well be a generational thing these days as malaria is not a common problem in the US anymore and the stories about tonic water for malaria are certainly from a bygone era. My father would know it without question. My college age niece may well have never heard of it.

Much of the malarial world is now chloroquine resistent but some of the current alternative prophlaxis and treatment is still in the quinine family like mefloquine and primaquine.