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On CBS' Morning Show yesterday, VP Biden was asked about his role as a watchdog for the spending in the recent Stimulus Bill. He admitted he'd forgotten and looked off-screen, asking his staff, "What's the number to that website?"

He then went on to give the correct web address.

It actually was charming and a mere slip of the tongue, but the same public faux pas would have generated a page and half here if it had been the previous administration.

Curious that...

You didn't miss the thread; you just started it.

I had heard nothing of this incident, myself. So the vice president used the term "number" instead of "URL"? Clearly, this egregious mistake calls for an ongoing harangue.

Carry on.

MarleysGh0st wrote:You didn't miss the thread; you just started it.

I had heard nothing of this incident, myself. So the vice president used the term "number" instead of "URL"? Clearly, this egregious mistake calls for an ongoing harangue.

Carry on.

His point was that if W. had said exactly the same thing, many here would have lampooned him as an idiot.

People are hypocrites with double standards. No shock, there.

TheCalvinator24 wrote:

MarleysGh0st wrote:You didn't miss the thread; you just started it.

I had heard nothing of this incident, myself. So the vice president used the term "number" instead of "URL"? Clearly, this egregious mistake calls for an ongoing harangue.

Carry on.

His point was that if W. had said exactly the same thing, many here would have lampooned him as an idiot.

People are hypocrites with double standards. No shock, there.

Yes, I understand.

Because of X, Y and Z, people should be rioting in the streets. That we are not doing so is a dreadful moral failure.



How about if those who wish to criticize or lampoon simply do so, and stop complaining that others aren't joining in?

MarleysGh0st wrote:Y

I had heard nothing of this incident, myself. So the vice president used the term "number" instead of "URL"? Clearly, this egregious mistake calls for an ongoing harangue.

Marley, my point exactly.

Why did we have so many threads and so much glee when the previous Administration made minor goofs like this - ones that truly didn't affect anyone or anything?

Against policy or major decisions? Absolutely, our right and duty as citizens to discuss and dissent, if need be.

But the piling on during Bush's time over absolutely any and everything was just sickening.

No turn about being fair play?

Flybrick wrote:No turn about being fair play?

So are you still complaining that some people were unfair to the Bush administration or complaining that these same people are not being equally unfair to the Obama administration?

And, how about naming names? What specific BBs do you want to join in with you?

SSS, for one, seems to be just as unhappy with this administration as with the last one.

Flybrick wrote:

MarleysGh0st wrote:Y

I had heard nothing of this incident, myself. So the vice president used the term "number" instead of "URL"? Clearly, this egregious mistake calls for an ongoing harangue.

Marley, my point exactly.

Why did we have so many threads and so much glee when the previous Administration made minor goofs like this - ones that truly didn't affect anyone or anything?

Against policy or major decisions? Absolutely, our right and duty as citizens to discuss and dissent, if need be.

But the piling on during Bush's time over absolutely any and everything was just sickening.

No turn about being fair play?

I am sorry you have not let your upset about all that go.

It must be hard.

Marley, I'm not going to call out anyone.

My point is to point out the hypocrisy. I would have not had many, many, many of the insults slung at the previous Administration as they were demeaning to the Office, something that does us as Americans no good. I would not have them slung at the current Administration, but as I'm only one man, it is not unreasonable to wonder why those so quick to ridicule the past incumbent and staff, are not so fast now?

And especially those of the major broadcast networks and print outlets. I would further say that my opening post was more directed at those outlets than any posters here, but if the thread fits individuals, that's ok as well.

Futile? Probably.

Fun? Definitely.

If you didn't notice, I don't know if you did or did not, I did not insult Vice-President Biden. It was a simple, human mistake. I even said it's endearing. But that same outlook was seldom, if ever, given to the Bush Administration.

I am intrigued by your compulsion to post it and other things comparing Obama and Bush.

We are in the present.

peacock2121 wrote:I am intrigued by your compulsion to post it and other things comparing Obama and Bush.

We are in the present.

And in the present are some major gaffes, stumbles, and buffoonery that should be worth commenting upon.

Not to mention the odd trillion or three in additional debt...

Flybrick wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:I am intrigued by your compulsion to post it and other things comparing Obama and Bush.

We are in the present.

And in the present are some major gaffes, stumbles, and buffoonery that should be worth commenting upon.

Not to mention the odd trillion or three in additional debt...

Fine, comment on them - why bring up that no liberals are doing so and that they did so with Bush?

Stay in the present.

Flybrick wrote:Marley, I'm not going to call out anyone.

My point is to point out the hypocrisy.

But if you don't name names, then your cry against hypocrisy is chasing after phantoms. Who is being the hypocrite?

Yes, our culture has become very polarized. One side attacks the other unfairly and the other side responds in kind. One does not ordinarily expect one side to attack itself unfairly.

Go ahead and point out every instance of unfair attacks, as they happen. Just stop complaining that unnamed others aren't joining in.

Flybrick wrote:If you didn't notice, I don't know if you did or did not, I did not insult Vice-President Biden. It was a simple, human mistake. I even said it's endearing. But that same outlook was seldom, if ever, given to the Bush Administration.

I noticed the phrasing. But I'm still tired of the "why is nobody complaining?" complaint.

Maybe that's just me.

Holy Crappola, Batman.

Me and Marley saying essentially the same thing!

peacock2121 wrote:Holy Crappola, Batman.

Me and Marley saying essentially the same thing!

I'm gonna be drummed out of the Republican Party and it's not going to be pretty.

MarleysGh0st wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:Holy Crappola, Batman.

Me and Marley saying essentially the same thing!

I'm gonna be drummed out of the Republican Party and it's not going to be pretty.

I seem to have this reputation of being a liberal democrat. I have no idea where that came from.

seriously.

peacock2121 wrote:

MarleysGh0st wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:Holy Crappola, Batman.

Me and Marley saying essentially the same thing!

I'm gonna be drummed out of the Republican Party and it's not going to be pretty.

I seem to have this reputation of being a liberal democrat. I have no idea where that came from.

seriously.

Maybe it is those rumors of a torrid affair with FDR?

Appa23 wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:

MarleysGh0st wrote: I'm gonna be drummed out of the Republican Party and it's not going to be pretty.

I seem to have this reputation of being a liberal democrat. I have no idea where that came from.

seriously.

Maybe it is those rumors of a torrid affair with FDR?

He was from my part of the state, you know.

MarleysGh0st wrote: But if you don't name names, then your cry against hypocrisy is chasing after phantoms. Who is being the hypocrite?

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I noticed the phrasing. But I'm still tired of the "why is nobody complaining?" complaint.

It's not hypocrisy, it would be either decorum or cowardice, depending on one's viewpoint.

Sorry you are tired of it. The posts and threads won't stop. I will put in political in the title if the subject isn't apparent to offer the opportunity to avoid them.

Flybrick wrote:

MarleysGh0st wrote: But if you don't name names, then your cry against hypocrisy is chasing after phantoms. Who is being the hypocrite?

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I noticed the phrasing. But I'm still tired of the "why is nobody complaining?" complaint.

It's not hypocrisy, it would be either decorum or cowardice, depending on one's viewpoint.

Sorry you are tired of it. The posts and threads won't stop. I will put in political in the title if the subject isn't apparent to offer the opportunity to avoid them.

I wasn't accusing you of being a hypocrite there. I was simply repeating, with different wording, the request to name names.

MarleysGh0st wrote:

Flybrick wrote:

MarleysGh0st wrote: But if you don't name names, then your cry against hypocrisy is chasing after phantoms. Who is being the hypocrite?

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I noticed the phrasing. But I'm still tired of the "why is nobody complaining?" complaint.

It's not hypocrisy, it would be either decorum or cowardice, depending on one's viewpoint.

Sorry you are tired of it. The posts and threads won't stop. I will put in political in the title if the subject isn't apparent to offer the opportunity to avoid them.

I wasn't accusing you of being a hypocrite there. I was simply repeating, with different wording, the request to name names.

Why?

Does it matter who is being hypocritical? Will we have an administrator tag their name with this label? Do we need to dig more ditches between the philosophical divides?

Can't we all just get along?

Rexer25 wrote:Does it matter who is being hypocritical? Will we have an administrator tag their name with this label? Do we need to dig more ditches between the philosophical divides?

Naming names gives the accused a chance to defend themselves, which a generic charge of "everyone is being unfair" does not. Unless everyone is expected to join in the thread to say "I'm not being unfair".

Rexer25 wrote:Can't we all just get along?

I'm willing to do so. We can conduct our political discussions civilly, from this point forward, and call out those who act uncivilly, from this point forward.

And here is Jeanne Moos' take on the veep's gaffe:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politi ... looper.cnn

Flybrick wrote:On CBS' Morning Show yesterday, VP Biden was asked about his role as a watchdog for the spending in the recent Stimulus Bill. He admitted he'd forgotten and looked off-screen, asking his staff, "What's the number to that website?"

He then went on to give the correct web address.

It actually was charming and a mere slip of the tongue, but the same public faux pas would have generated a page and half here if it had been the previous administration.

Curious that...

wow

you make up an assertion to make a point about something that dint happen relating to an event that few saw, on a game show messgage board, on which you think that the criticisms of quite possibly the most incompetent president in our history,during a worldwide global financial pandemic no less, was too harsh.


that is strong

solid thinking

be the ball

Flybrick wrote:

MarleysGh0st wrote:Y

I had heard nothing of this incident, myself. So the vice president used the term "number" instead of "URL"? Clearly, this egregious mistake calls for an ongoing harangue.

Marley, my point exactly.

Why did we have so many threads and so much glee when the previous Administration made minor goofs like this - ones that truly didn't affect anyone or anything?

Against policy or major decisions? Absolutely, our right and duty as citizens to discuss and dissent, if need be.

But the piling on during Bush's time over absolutely any and everything was just sickening.

No turn about being fair play?

I too became annoyed with the constant nitpicking over his smalll gaffes like the iraq war,2 recessions,failure to capture bin laden after ignoring the warnings of the 9/11 attack

he is only human

and the iraq war will only cost double the bailout

Flybrick wrote:On CBS' Morning Show yesterday, VP Biden was asked about his role as a watchdog for the spending in the recent Stimulus Bill. He admitted he'd forgotten and looked off-screen, asking his staff, "What's the number to that website?"

He then went on to give the correct web address.

It actually was charming and a mere slip of the tongue, but the same public faux pas would have generated a page and half here if it had been the previous administration.

Curious that...

I think this post should be stickied, for when flybrik gets put on the Mount rushmore of rhetoric,
this post must be used as the inscription