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RIP Henry Hyde

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:19 pm
by mrkelley23
Admittedly I wasn't a big fan, and I disagreed with many of his public stances, but I certainly can't hold that against him beyond the veil.

http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-982608 ... g=nefd.top

Re: RIP Henry Hyde

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:45 pm
by wbtravis007
mrkelley23 wrote:Admittedly I wasn't a big fan, and I disagreed with many of his public stances, but I certainly can't hold that against him beyond the veil.

http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-982608 ... g=nefd.top
Ouch!

Damn!

I hate it when I bite my tongue.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:02 pm
by peacock2121
Let's just say that tonight, mikey is a better person than I am.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:05 pm
by starfish1113
I worked on Capitol Hill for ten years and had the pleasure of meeting Henry Hyde on a number of occasions.

I never met a kinder, more down-to-earth Member of Congress in all my years there.

R.I.P.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:46 pm
by silvercamaro
starfish1113 wrote:I worked on Capitol Hill for ten years and had the pleasure of meeting Henry Hyde on a number of occasions.

I never met a kinder, more down-to-earth Member of Congress in all my years there.

R.I.P.
I have heard Henry Hyde described as "old-fashioned, but a real gentleman." Thank you, Fishie, for reminding us that it is possible to disagree with someone's political beliefs without casting him (or her) in the role of villain.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:35 am
by peacock2121
So many people are better people than I am.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:49 am
by Appa23

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:31 am
by starfish1113
Appa23 wrote:Here is what Fishie was saying:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... 2051.story
Jonathan Turley said it much more eloquently than I ever could, but yes.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:39 am
by nitrah55
Apparently, had it been up to Hyde, there wouldn't have been an impeachment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/2 ... 74722.html

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:12 pm
by wbtravis007
nitrah55 wrote:Apparently, had it been up to Hyde, there wouldn't have been an impeachment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/2 ... 74722.html
Interesting.

I'll tell you how dumb I was. I went out on a limb right before the Judiciary Committee's vote on the impeachment articles with a prediction that Hyde would shock everybody by voting "no" (and thereby lead others away from the hysteria).

I based that prediction on all of the stuff that everybody kept saying about his character and intelligence and depth and honor and what not. That would have been a big boost to our then-struggling Prediction Services division. Needless to say, I was very disappointed on many fronts that he didn't live up to his billing.

I don't judge a person by their politics at all, and I'm sure that he was a great guy in many respects. Still, I do not have a soft spot in my heart for him. I've always considered that he sold out, and the link that nitrah posted kind of confirms that.

For some reason I used to be able to do a pretty good impression of him, but I can't hear his voice in my head well enough to do it now. Fine with me.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:37 pm
by peacock2121
well crap

I feel the same way skippy does.

like I said

crap

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:57 pm
by starfish1113
nitrah55 wrote:Apparently, had it been up to Hyde, there wouldn't have been an impeachment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/2 ... 74722.html
This is one of the reasons I don't read political blogs. The after-article comments made by these "people" are worse than ignorant and insulting. They are comments that would have been harsh even if they applied to Ted Bundy or Jim Jones. I would be embarrassed to be the author of that article and see my "brethren" hurl invective like that. I hope nobody here was part of that.

So you have political differences with somebody. Celebration of a death because of that is beyond the pale. Should Bill Clinton die before I do (and given my recent trip to the emergency room, that's not a given), I would not only refrain from making public pronouncements 1/10ths as vitriolic as what I just read, I'd like to think I would call out those that do. It reminds me why I have separated from politics as much as I have in the last few years/months.

Sickening.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:08 pm
by wbtravis007
starfish1113 wrote:
nitrah55 wrote:Apparently, had it been up to Hyde, there wouldn't have been an impeachment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/2 ... 74722.html
This is one of the reasons I don't read political blogs. The after-article comments made by these "people" are worse than ignorant and insulting. They are comments that would have been harsh even if they applied to Ted Bundy or Jim Jones. I would be embarrassed to be the author of that article and see my "brethren" hurl invective like that. I hope nobody here was part of that.

So you have political differences with somebody. Celebration of a death because of that is beyond the pale. Should Bill Clinton die before I do (and given my recent trip to the emergency room, that's not a given), I would not only refrain from making public pronouncements 1/10ths as vitriolic as what I just read, I'd like to think I would call out those that do. It reminds me why I have separated from politics as much as I have in the last few years/months.

Sickening.
Yep. Couldn't agree more.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:23 pm
by wbtravis007
peacock2121 wrote:well crap

I feel the same way skippy does.

like I said

crap
Hey! I heard that!

So ... does this mean that you're starting to have second thoughts about us raising a child together?

By the way, I saw that you lol'ed me in another thread. You know what that does to me, and you still do it.

Some people!

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:35 pm
by nitrah55
starfish1113 wrote:
nitrah55 wrote:Apparently, had it been up to Hyde, there wouldn't have been an impeachment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/2 ... 74722.html
This is one of the reasons I don't read political blogs. The after-article comments made by these "people" are worse than ignorant and insulting. They are comments that would have been harsh even if they applied to Ted Bundy or Jim Jones. I would be embarrassed to be the author of that article and see my "brethren" hurl invective like that. I hope nobody here was part of that.

So you have political differences with somebody. Celebration of a death because of that is beyond the pale. Should Bill Clinton die before I do (and given my recent trip to the emergency room, that's not a given), I would not only refrain from making public pronouncements 1/10ths as vitriolic as what I just read, I'd like to think I would call out those that do. It reminds me why I have separated from politics as much as I have in the last few years/months.

Sickening.
Just for the record, I didn't (and don't) read after-article comments for pretty much the same reason as starfish. The information in the article itself I thought worth passing along.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:37 pm
by peacock2121
wbtravis007 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:well crap

I feel the same way skippy does.

like I said

crap
Hey! I heard that!

So ... does this mean that you're starting to have second thoughts about us raising a child together?

By the way, I saw that you lol'ed me in another thread. You know what that does to me, and you still do it.

Some people!
double crap

we still would raise great children together.

I would just kill probably you first.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:38 pm
by peacock2121
Sorry you read such crap, fishie.

I am also sorry that you think someone here might have written it.