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i just saw it

i had more of a negative reaction about the writers using the vicious mauling of an old woman to make his point than the racial component of the toon.


perhaps a beating of the cartoonist by the family of the victim might bring them a laugh.

BigDrawMan wrote:i just saw it

i had more of a negative reaction about the writers using the vicious mauling of an old woman to make his point than the racial component of the toon.


perhaps a beating of the cartoonist by the family of the victim might bring them a laugh.

What cartoon?

That the complainers saw more to the cartoon than the implied message that the Stimulus Bill was so bad, it was as if it had been written by a chimp says more about them than about the cartoonist. Shame on the Post for apologizing and kowtowing to them. It was a pretty lame editorial cartoon, anyway.

gsabc wrote:That the complainers saw more to the cartoon than the implied message that the Stimulus Bill was so bad, it was as if it had been written by a chimp says more about them than about the cartoonist. Shame on the Post for apologizing and kowtowing to them. It was a pretty lame editorial cartoon, anyway.

I withdraw my "shame on" from the Post. Their editorial doesn't quite apologize for the cartoon, at least not entirely.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02202009/po ... 156032.htm

It was still a lame cartoon, IMO.

Maybe I missed something, but my understanding of the 'story' was that Pelosi and Reid were the architects, so wouldn't that cartoon be calling THEM chimps, not the president?


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tlynn78 wrote:Maybe I missed something, but my understanding of the 'story' was that Pelosi and Reid were the architects, so wouldn't that cartoon be calling THEM chimps, not the president?


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Not only that, but Bush was called a chimp several times during his term in office.

So it ain't just a "black thing".

Jeemie wrote:

tlynn78 wrote:Maybe I missed something, but my understanding of the 'story' was that Pelosi and Reid were the architects, so wouldn't that cartoon be calling THEM chimps, not the president?


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Not only that, but Bush was called a chimp several times during his term in office.

So it ain't just a "black thing".

I don't believe it was racist in intent. But you're incredibly naive if you don't realize that many times such references are racist in intent.

So I'm willing to cut somebody slack if they've been sensitized to a lifetime of such insults. (I'm not counting the opportunists like Sharpton.) And I'm surprised an editor didn't realize this. [If the editor did realize it, but decided the controversy would be good for the paper -- well, in a sense, that is a deliberate exploitation of racism.]

In any case, the whole thing was in questionable taste for entirely different reasons, as has already been pointed out.

franktangredi wrote:

Jeemie wrote:

tlynn78 wrote:Maybe I missed something, but my understanding of the 'story' was that Pelosi and Reid were the architects, so wouldn't that cartoon be calling THEM chimps, not the president?


t.

Not only that, but Bush was called a chimp several times during his term in office.

So it ain't just a "black thing".

I don't believe it was racist in intent. But you're incredibly naive if you don't realize that many times such references are racist in intent.

So I'm willing to cut somebody slack if they've been sensitized to a lifetime of such insults. (I'm not counting the opportunists like Sharpton.) And I'm surprised an editor didn't realize this. [If the editor did realize it, but decided the controversy would be good for the paper -- well, in a sense, that is a deliberate exploitation of racism.]

In any case, the whole thing was in questionable taste for entirely different reasons, as has already been pointed out.

What part of "ain't just" did you have a problem with?

franktangredi wrote: I don't believe it was racist in intent. But you're incredibly naive if you don't realize that many times such references are racist in intent.

We certainly wouldn't want any sort of racist cartoons out there.... like, say

tlynn78 wrote:Maybe I missed something, but my understanding of the 'story' was that Pelosi and Reid were the architects, so wouldn't that cartoon be calling THEM chimps, not the president?


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Actually, I had a different question regarding the NYP's response that Pelosi and Reid were the chimp in the cartoon: "Advocating the assassination of Pelosi and Reid makes the cartoon less offensive how exactly?"

Jeemie wrote:

tlynn78 wrote:Maybe I missed something, but my understanding of the 'story' was that Pelosi and Reid were the architects, so wouldn't that cartoon be calling THEM chimps, not the president?


t.

Not only that, but Bush was called a chimp several times during his term in office.

So it ain't just a "black thing".

That's different because Bush actually does look like a chimp.



Not that this necessarily elevates the political discourse on this Bored, but there is a huge difference between somebody who uses a simian reference to describe any random Black person and somebody who uses a simian reference to describe somebody who actually does look like a simian.

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Not that this necessarily elevates the political discourse on this Bored...

Don't worry- you will always be one of the last ones I'll expect to elevate the political discussions on this board.

BigDrawMan wrote:i just saw it

i had more of a negative reaction about the writers using the vicious mauling of an old woman to make his point than the racial component of the toon.


perhaps a beating of the cartoonist by the family of the victim might bring them a laugh.

Hmmmm....I'm pretty concerned that BDM considers a 55-year-old to be an "old woman!"

I'm firmly in the "Old" is "20 years older than I am" camp! By that criteria, Charla Nash is far from "old."

A well-known DJ from my hometown died last week. I was shocked to read that he was "only 60!" He DJ'd the dances I used to go to when I was in 7th and 8th grade; he must have only been 22-23 then, but it seemed to me like he'd been around forever.

so..none of you people are upset that some foppish scribbler used a horrific event to make a political event??


where i come from that warrants an honour beatin