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Heroes thread
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:45 pm
by earendel
OK, this episode bothered me in several ways:
1. I understand that the future is malleable, but they've sure gone out of their way to show that the future from which "goth Peter" came can't happen (no happy familiy life for Parkman, for instance).
2. If the heroes have to go "off the grid" to avoid capture, how did Hiro and Ando get to India? Hiro couldn't take them, and surely their names are in a DNF database.
3. So Peter can still duplicate powers, but now only one at a time. Somehow I think that makes him a better character.
4. Sylar as surrogate father to the "microwave kid" just doesn't make sense, especially given Sylar's comment in the diner that "emotions cloud the judgment" (maybe he's channeling his Spock character).
Let the discussion begin.
Re: Heroes thread
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:58 pm
by gsabc
earendel wrote:OK, this episode bothered me in several ways:
1. I understand that the future is malleable, but they've sure gone out of their way to show that the future from which "goth Peter" came can't happen (no happy familiy life for Parkman, for instance).
2. If the heroes have to go "off the grid" to avoid capture, how did Hiro and Ando get to India? Hiro couldn't take them, and surely their names are in a DNF database.
3. So Peter can still duplicate powers, but now only one at a time. Somehow I think that makes him a better character.
4. Sylar as surrogate father to the "microwave kid" just doesn't make sense, especially given Sylar's comment in the diner that "emotions cloud the judgment" (maybe he's channeling his Spock character).
Let the discussion begin.
Point #2 - good point. Just as I wonder how a US Senator from NY can work so much under the standard publicity radar, I wonder how the president/chairman of a decent-sized Japanese corporation can be so absent from work. Arguably Hiro has company planes at his disposal, but if they're monitoring phone and credit card action ...
Point #4 - I see nothing good coming out of this relationship. But the kid is a snot. I'm already rooting for Sylar in that pairing.
Added point - it was a bit disconcerting to see Claire's new boyfriend in the KFC commercials aired during the show (w/o geek glasses, he's the guy awestruck by their new value menu).
Re: Heroes thread
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:06 pm
by MarleysGh0st
1. Well, the Heroes writers obviously don't agree with the Lost writers about "whatever happened, happened."
2. Excellent question. And, after the irate groom gives in for no good reason, the whole point for that Indian excursion turned out to be receiving a fax that was waiting for them?
A fax!?
3. Agreed. Characters like Peter and Sylar and Papa Petrelli who can collect an ever-growing set of powers are way over the top.
4. The writers make Sylar's character blow whichever way their mood strikes them. After last season's whole "empathy" story arc, he abruptly went bad again. Now we're getting hints that he might not be totally beyond redemption, after all. Or else the writers like that Sith Master/Apprentice angle.
So, next week we find out about HRG.
Re: Heroes thread
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:17 pm
by Bob78164
In the graphic novel that went on the site today, they've disclosed
that Alex's power is
as a swimmer. Apparently, he doesn't need to breathe underwater.
--Bob
Re: Heroes thread
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:17 pm
by TheCalvinator24
Bob78164 wrote:In the graphic novel that went on the site today, they've disclosed
that Alex's power is
as a swimmer. Apparently, he doesn't need to breathe underwater.
--Bob
That was revealed on the show. He told Claire.
Re: Heroes thread
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:31 pm
by Bob78164
TheCalvinator24 wrote:Bob78164 wrote:In the graphic novel that went on the site today, they've disclosed
that Alex's power is
as a swimmer. Apparently, he doesn't need to breathe underwater.
--Bob
That was revealed on the show. He told Claire.
I watched last night, but I missed that somehow. --Bob
Re: Heroes thread
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:35 am
by tanstaafl2
earendel wrote:OK, this episode bothered me in several ways:
1. I understand that the future is malleable, but they've sure gone out of their way to show that the future from which "goth Peter" came can't happen (no happy familiy life for Parkman, for instance).
2. If the heroes have to go "off the grid" to avoid capture, how did Hiro and Ando get to India? Hiro couldn't take them, and surely their names are in a DNF database.
3. So Peter can still duplicate powers, but now only one at a time. Somehow I think that makes him a better character.
4. Sylar as surrogate father to the "microwave kid" just doesn't make sense, especially given Sylar's comment in the diner that "emotions cloud the judgment" (maybe he's channeling his Spock character).
Let the discussion begin.
You still expect logic on this show? Are you delirious? Maybe you have a fever. Here, let me get my thermometer. It is rectal and broken with mercury leaking out but that's OK you can just slip it under your tongue...
Re: Heroes thread
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:52 am
by earendel
tanstaafl2 wrote:earendel wrote:OK, this episode bothered me in several ways:
1. I understand that the future is malleable, but they've sure gone out of their way to show that the future from which "goth Peter" came can't happen (no happy familiy life for Parkman, for instance).
2. If the heroes have to go "off the grid" to avoid capture, how did Hiro and Ando get to India? Hiro couldn't take them, and surely their names are in a DNF database.
3. So Peter can still duplicate powers, but now only one at a time. Somehow I think that makes him a better character.
4. Sylar as surrogate father to the "microwave kid" just doesn't make sense, especially given Sylar's comment in the diner that "emotions cloud the judgment" (maybe he's channeling his Spock character).
Let the discussion begin.
You still expect logic on this show? Are you delirious? Maybe you have a fever. Here, let me get my thermometer. It is rectal and broken with mercury leaking out but that's OK you can just slip it under your tongue...
As a fan of comic books I know that one has to suspend one's disbelief (a man who can fly?? geez) but even comic books have a certain logic to them. "Heroes", as a video comic book, should also have some sort of internal logic (as "Lost" does, so I'm told). And in the comic books there is always time to go back and pick up a loose plot thread. But in a TV show one's longevity is only as good as the fan loyalty, so it doesn't do the show any good to drop things without so much as an acknowledgement (Peter's Irish girlfriend, the "spark" that catalyzed the heroes' powers, Claire's flying boyfriend, to name but three).
Re: Heroes thread
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:58 am
by tanstaafl2
earendel wrote:tanstaafl2 wrote:earendel wrote:OK, this episode bothered me in several ways:
1. I understand that the future is malleable, but they've sure gone out of their way to show that the future from which "goth Peter" came can't happen (no happy familiy life for Parkman, for instance).
2. If the heroes have to go "off the grid" to avoid capture, how did Hiro and Ando get to India? Hiro couldn't take them, and surely their names are in a DNF database.
3. So Peter can still duplicate powers, but now only one at a time. Somehow I think that makes him a better character.
4. Sylar as surrogate father to the "microwave kid" just doesn't make sense, especially given Sylar's comment in the diner that "emotions cloud the judgment" (maybe he's channeling his Spock character).
Let the discussion begin.
You still expect logic on this show? Are you delirious? Maybe you have a fever. Here, let me get my thermometer. It is rectal and broken with mercury leaking out but that's OK you can just slip it under your tongue...
As a fan of comic books I know that one has to suspend one's disbelief (a man who can fly?? geez) but even comic books have a certain logic to them. "Heroes", as a video comic book, should also have some sort of internal logic (as "Lost" does, so I'm told). And in the comic books there is always time to go back and pick up a loose plot thread. But in a TV show one's longevity is only as good as the fan loyalty, so it doesn't do the show any good to drop things without so much as an acknowledgement (Peter's Irish girlfriend, the "spark" that catalyzed the heroes' powers, Claire's flying boyfriend, to name but three).
Oh, it was logical enough in a comic book sort of way in the beginning. But they gave up on that a long time ago...