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Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:19 pm
by tanstaafl2
And there is political chaos there as well at the moment...

Madagascar Violence

After planning for several months we had picked Madagascar as our next stop in our ongoing slow but steady world tour. Deposits have been made and airfare obtained. Now it seems the fat cats in the country are annoyed with one another and the ones that suffer as a result are the Malagasy people, who don't generally have a lot to begin with.

It won't do my financial well being a lot of good either but I did obtain travel insurance so if our travel plans have to be shelved hopefully we can recover most of our costs with a minimum of fuss. Of course with insurance claims that may be easier said than done.

And as a result we are having to rethink our travel plans for October. It is far enough away to hope that the situation will improve but close enough that we now have to think about a back up plan. The hard part is knowing when to throw in the towel on Madagascar without waiting too long to make reservations elsewhere. I am no longer a spring chicken and have no interest in trying to wing it in deepest darkest Africa. We could always play it safe and do a tour of Cape Town and surrounding environs.

But as we have always tried to seek the path less beaten we are considering a lacustrine exclave as part of our back up plan. Actually it is not A lacustrine exclave, it appears it is the ONLY lacustrine exclave in the world!

I believe it officially also qualifies as the only lacustrine enclave as well for those that keep up with those things...

Anybody care to take a stab at the location of our back up travel destination? Since you can pretty safely guess the region of the world we are aiming for that is a small clue.

Although a relatively easy Google the answer isn't for the average geo nitwit (or WWTBAM cast member either). I certainly had no clue prior to my research on exotic travel locals. I suspect it would be a tough one even for those little brainiacs on the National Geographic Bee but perhaps someone here knows without the aid of a Google PAF (not that I could prove they didn't give in to the irresistible siren call of the ethernet to uncover the answer of course).

Anyone know of where I speak? Anyone care? Bueller? Bueller??

Given the recent history on the bored I suppose some may not particularly care but that's OK too! :mrgreen:

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Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:37 pm
by silvercamaro
Okay, Google and I conspired to cheat, but this looks like a fascinating and beautiful place:

http://www.kayamawa.com/

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:51 pm
by tanstaafl2
silvercamaro wrote:Okay, Google and I conspired to cheat, but this looks like a fascinating and beautiful place:

http://www.kayamawa.com/
Don't it though?
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Only thing missing would be the lemurs leaping by your chalet in the morning as you awake to the ocean breeze from across the Mozambique channel as would be the case if we make it to Anjajavy.

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Anjajavy 1

Anjajavy 2

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Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:54 pm
by tanstaafl2
And you gotta love a place called "Maybe Tomorrow".

Especially if you are a parrothead!

No plane on Sunday, Maybe be one come Monday...

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:26 pm
by silvercamaro
Some of these photographs remind me of the kinds of land and seascapes I've known only through playing Myst and Riven. I definitely need to see more of the real world!

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:53 pm
by ulysses5019
What have the natives ever done to you?

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:35 am
by Bob Juch
Enjoy the tilapia!

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:57 am
by MarleysGh0st
I confess that I was unfamiliar with both words lacustrine exclave before I read the other answers and then went to Google for some further clarification. Thanks for presenting this puzzler. And good luck with your vacation planning.

Wikipedia tells me that LlĂ­via is a Spanish exclave surrounded by French territory. It surprises me that such a border oddity survives to the present day.

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:32 am
by andrewjackson
Interesting. I did not know about lacustrine exclaves. I knew about enclaves and exclaves but not this type.

Kaliningrad is the first exclave that I think of. And Alaska fits the definition but I don't usually think of it that way.

Now that I look at it there are a lot more enclaves and exclaves than I realized.

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:03 am
by tanstaafl2
silvercamaro wrote:Some of these photographs remind me of the kinds of land and seascapes I've known only through playing Myst and Riven. I definitely need to see more of the real world!
You might enjoy this article called The Sea Inside written by Peter Godwin.

Godwin grew up in Zimbabwe and has written several books on that country including his memoirs "Mukiwa: A White Boy in Africa".

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:05 am
by silvercamaro
tanstaafl2 wrote:
silvercamaro wrote:Some of these photographs remind me of the kinds of land and seascapes I've known only through playing Myst and Riven. I definitely need to see more of the real world!
You might enjoy this article called The Sea Inside written by Peter Godwin.

Godwin grew up in Zimbabwe and has written several books on that country including his memoirs "Mukiwa: A White Boy in Africa".
Thanks, Tan! I'm headed out to the theatre in a bit, but I will savor the article and photographs tonight.

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:23 am
by tanstaafl2
Bob Juch wrote:Enjoy the tilapia!
Yep, that and the schistosomiasis...

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:06 am
by tanstaafl2
ulysses5019 wrote:What have the natives ever done to you?
I think it was the fact that they were eating all those cockroaches. You know, the Madagascar hissing kind!

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:25 am
by Bob Juch
tanstaafl2 wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:What have the natives ever done to you?
I think it was the fact that they were eating all those cockroaches. You know, the Madagascar hissing kind!
Now those are revolting!

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:19 pm
by Buffacuse
Please read this and take it seriously:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_t ... _4424.html

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:57 pm
by tanstaafl2
Buffacuse wrote:Please read this and take it seriously:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_t ... _4424.html
Yep, I've been on the State Department email list for years because between the two of us there always seems to be a trip to an international destination on the horizon. Or else we are planning our next one so it is always useful to know what the current hot spots are.

We always take the advisories seriously.

But it doesn't always stop us! We were in Burma in 2003, Tibet in 2007 and I somehow ended up in Moscow during the Russian constitutional crisis in September of 1993. Pam has been to Sierra Leone, Djibouti and Georgia during "interesting times".

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:18 am
by MarleysGh0st
tanstaafl2 wrote: We always take the advisories seriously.

But it doesn't always stop us! We were in Burma in 2003, Tibet in 2007 and I somehow ended up in Moscow during the Russian constitutional crisis in September of 1993. Pam has been to Sierra Leone, Djibouti and Georgia during "interesting times".
Disney just doesn't provide enough excitement for you two, huh? :shock:

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:51 am
by etaoin22
I will go with
Spoiler
inspecting the Russian Navy at the May Day parade in Kaliningrad

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:33 am
by tanstaafl2
MarleysGh0st wrote:
tanstaafl2 wrote: We always take the advisories seriously.

But it doesn't always stop us! We were in Burma in 2003, Tibet in 2007 and I somehow ended up in Moscow during the Russian constitutional crisis in September of 1993. Pam has been to Sierra Leone, Djibouti and Georgia during "interesting times".
Disney just doesn't provide enough excitement for you two, huh? :shock:
It is kinda like EPCOT, only live...
:wink:

Re: Sadly, in Madagascar the natives are revolting.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:35 am
by tanstaafl2
etaoin22 wrote:I will go with
Spoiler
inspecting the Russian Navy at the May Day parade in Kaliningrad
Similar longitude, different latitude!