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Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:25 pm
by Bob78164
The explanation of the play in today's Level 2 Play hand has a subtle error, and this one is Lawrence's.
In case you haven't read the hand yet.
In a spade contract, it's necessary to pick up the following heart suit with only one loser, having only one entry to dummy (Kx facing Ax, so you can take it when you like) outside the heart suit:

Dummy: A87632
Declarer: J9.

The recommended play is to play a card from hand and duck in dummy. On the next round, you will win the Ace and (if hearts are 3-2) ruff out the suit. That's accurate so far. But Lawrence claims it doesn't matter which card you play from your hand. That's not accurate.

If West has the stiff 10, you still can bring the suit home if you lead the Jack, but not if you lead the 9. When East wins his honor, the second round of the suit will expose the situation, presenting you with a guaranteed ruffing finesse against East's remaining honor.
I've sent an e-mail to the contact address. Let's see if I get a response. --Bob

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:04 pm
by macrae1234
Does a holding of


Dummy: A97632
Declarer: J8

Change anything?

Also if you play the J and the K comes up on your right do ypou cover or play for the 3-2 He is saying play for the 3-2 regardless.

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:53 pm
by Bob78164
macrae1234 wrote:Does a holding of


Dummy: A97632
Declarer: J8

Change anything?

Also if you play the J and the K comes up on your right do ypou cover or play for the 3-2 He is saying play for the 3-2 regardless.
If you switch the 8 and the 9 as you have done, then you have the option of playing RHO for a stiff 10. The problem, though, is that if LHO covers, you can't tell whether RHO was dealt a stiff 10 or honor-10 doubleton (or is falsecarding with honor-10-third).

Anne did respond to my e-mail. Apparently Lawrence overlooked the possibility of West holding a stiff 10. She also thought that playing the J prevails against East holding a stiff 10, but that's only true if you're willing to pay off to the other holdings.

If East wins the first trick with an honor and you haven't seen the 10, you don't have a choice -- you have to play for hearts breaking. --Bob

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:27 pm
by ulysses5019
Bob78164 wrote:
macrae1234 wrote:Does a holding of


Dummy: A97632
Declarer: J8

Change anything?

Also if you play the J and the K comes up on your right do ypou cover or play for the 3-2 He is saying play for the 3-2 regardless.
If you switch the 8 and the 9 as you have done, then you have the option of playing RHO for a stiff 10. The problem, though, is that if LHO covers, you can't tell whether RHO was dealt a stiff 10 or honor-10 doubleton (or is falsecarding with honor-10-third).

Anne did respond to my e-mail. Apparently Lawrence overlooked the possibility of West holding a stiff 10. She also thought that playing the J prevails against East holding a stiff 10, but that's only true if you're willing to pay off to the other holdings.

If East wins the first trick with an honor and you haven't seen the 10, you don't have a choice -- you have to play for hearts breaking. --Bob

I wish people would speak English on the bored.

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:44 pm
by peacock2121
ulysses5019 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
macrae1234 wrote:Does a holding of


Dummy: A97632
Declarer: J8

Change anything?

Also if you play the J and the K comes up on your right do ypou cover or play for the 3-2 He is saying play for the 3-2 regardless.
If you switch the 8 and the 9 as you have done, then you have the option of playing RHO for a stiff 10. The problem, though, is that if LHO covers, you can't tell whether RHO was dealt a stiff 10 or honor-10 doubleton (or is falsecarding with honor-10-third).

Anne did respond to my e-mail. Apparently Lawrence overlooked the possibility of West holding a stiff 10. She also thought that playing the J prevails against East holding a stiff 10, but that's only true if you're willing to pay off to the other holdings.

If East wins the first trick with an honor and you haven't seen the 10, you don't have a choice -- you have to play for hearts breaking. --Bob

I wish people would speak English on the bored.
or golf or football - languages I can understand.

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:09 pm
by ulysses5019
peacock2121 wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:If you switch the 8 and the 9 as you have done, then you have the option of playing RHO for a stiff 10. The problem, though, is that if LHO covers, you can't tell whether RHO was dealt a stiff 10 or honor-10 doubleton (or is falsecarding with honor-10-third).

Anne did respond to my e-mail. Apparently Lawrence overlooked the possibility of West holding a stiff 10. She also thought that playing the J prevails against East holding a stiff 10, but that's only true if you're willing to pay off to the other holdings.

If East wins the first trick with an honor and you haven't seen the 10, you don't have a choice -- you have to play for hearts breaking. --Bob

I wish people would speak English on the bored.
or golf or football - languages I can understand.
But with you it's all babytalk.

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:12 pm
by peacock2121
ulysses5019 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
I wish people would speak English on the bored.
or golf or football - languages I can understand.
But with you it's all babytalk.
You mean baby boy talk.

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:20 pm
by ulysses5019
peacock2121 wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote: or golf or football - languages I can understand.
But with you it's all babytalk.
You mean baby boy talk.

That too. Do you have a baby boy for baseball?

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:35 pm
by macrae1234
That too. Do you have a baby boy for baseball?
Hope it's not A-Roid

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:55 am
by peacock2121
ulysses5019 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote: But with you it's all babytalk.
You mean baby boy talk.

That too. Do you have a baby boy for baseball?
I do not.

Nor am I looking for one.

I have enough on my plate managing the ones I have.

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:56 am
by peacock2121
macrae1234 wrote:
That too. Do you have a baby boy for baseball?
Hope it's not A-Roid
That would be like thinking that I just might some day tell HoltDad that he can bite me.

Re: Today's Bridgeclues.com

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:11 am
by earendel
peacock2121 wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:If you switch the 8 and the 9 as you have done, then you have the option of playing RHO for a stiff 10. The problem, though, is that if LHO covers, you can't tell whether RHO was dealt a stiff 10 or honor-10 doubleton (or is falsecarding with honor-10-third).

Anne did respond to my e-mail. Apparently Lawrence overlooked the possibility of West holding a stiff 10. She also thought that playing the J prevails against East holding a stiff 10, but that's only true if you're willing to pay off to the other holdings.

If East wins the first trick with an honor and you haven't seen the 10, you don't have a choice -- you have to play for hearts breaking. --Bob

I wish people would speak English on the bored.
or golf or football - languages I can understand.
I'm just going to stand over in the corner and look cute. :mrgreen: