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Judge rules against silence

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:29 pm
by ne1410s
NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
Thank God.

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:32 pm
by BackInTex
ne1410s wrote:NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
Thank God.
He's probably for gay marriage and against TOPG as well.

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:32 pm
by Governor Blago
ne1410s wrote:NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
Thank God.

God has a lot of cash, right?

You listening up there!?!?!? Make it rain gold, or I'll see to it you're expelled permanently!

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:24 pm
by TheCalvinator24
ne1410s wrote:NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
Thank God.
My bet is that he will get overturned. There is nothing on the face of "moment of silence" that would violate the 1st Amendment or even run afoul of the silly "Lemon Test"

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:44 pm
by ne1410s
George Will (I think):

As long as there are math tests, there will always be prayer in school.

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:44 pm
by mrkelley23
I can't speak for other states, but in Indiana it was a very transparent attempt by the people who think school mandated prayer was a good thing to sneak prayer back in the schools by the back door. Why some Christians think it is so important to force others to indulge in their religious traditions that they would employ sneaky, underhanded tactics is beyond me, but oh well.

As for the Moment of Silence, I don't find it unconstitutional per se, just silly and unproductive.

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:33 pm
by TheCalvinator24
mrkelley23 wrote:I can't speak for other states, but in Indiana it was a very transparent attempt by the people who think school mandated prayer was a good thing to sneak prayer back in the schools by the back door. Why some Christians think it is so important to force others to indulge in their religious traditions that they would employ sneaky, underhanded tactics is beyond me, but oh well.

As for the Moment of Silence, I don't find it unconstitutional per se, just silly and unproductive.
You get no disagreement with me on that point, either.

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:41 pm
by gsabc
mrkelley23 wrote:As for the Moment of Silence, I don't find it unconstitutional per se, just silly and unproductive.
Not for the teachers, for whom it is the last moment of quiet they get before the day's chaos starts.

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:11 am
by silverscreenselect
Most teachers would prefer about eight hours of silence a day in public schools.

Re: Judge rules against silence

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:37 am
by Jeemie
ne1410s wrote:NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
Thank God.
That's very funny.