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I just read that the Illinois house impeached Blago by a vote of 114 to 1. Full report is here: http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/Do ... mittee.pdf

So which moron voted not to impeach Blago? And how much did Blago pay him/her?

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:So which moron voted not to impeach Blago? And how much did Blago pay him/her?

I was wondering the same thing. I'll try to find his/her/its name....

danielh41 wrote:I just read that the Illinois house impeached Blago by a vote of 114 to 1. Full report is here: http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/Do ... mittee.pdf

That's only half the battle - the Illinois Senate still has to try and convict him in order for him to be removed from office. It may be harder than it sounds; I suspect the FBI might be reluctant to release some of the evidence they have because it could compromise their investigation.

starfish1113 wrote:

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:So which moron voted not to impeach Blago? And how much did Blago pay him/her?

I was wondering the same thing. I'll try to find his/her/its name....

It was Milton Patterson (D-Chicago). Here's a news story with his explanation:

http://www.wrex.com/Global/story.asp?S=9646242

Isn't indictment from a prosecutor a different animal than impeachment?

State Rep. Elga Jefferies -- another Chicago Democrat -- voted "present."

What is it with politicians and their utter cowardice?

Take a friggin' stand!

I respect Patterson more for his stance than I do Jeffries, even if I disagree with him.

peacock2121 wrote:Isn't indictment from a prosecutor a different animal than impeachment?

Impeachment is the equivalent to an indictment. An indictment is statement formally charging a person with a crime based on presented evidence. It is usually necessary before having a trial to determine if the person is guilty or innocent of the charge. An impeachment is typically the lower legislative body accusing a government official of some wrongdoing and recommending that the upper body have a trial to determine guilt or innocence.

I guess you could say it is different because a grand jury that issues an indictment has actually seen the evidence while in this case most of the Illinois House members have actually only seen the report from the House Impeachment Committee.

Jeemie wrote:

State Rep. Elga Jefferies -- another Chicago Democrat -- voted "present."

What is it with politicians and their utter cowardice?

Take a friggin' stand!

I respect Patterson more for his stance than I do Jeffries, even if I disagree with him.

You wonder why she votes present...

Cause that's how you get to be President.

andrewjackson wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:Isn't indictment from a prosecutor a different animal than impeachment?

Impeachment is the equivalent to an indictment. An indictment is statement formally charging a person with a crime based on presented evidence. It is usually necessary before having a trial to determine if the person is guilty or innocent of the charge. An impeachment is typically the lower legislative body accusing a government official of some wrongdoing and recommending that the upper body have a trial to determine guilt or innocence.

I guess you could say it is different because a grand jury that issues an indictment has actually seen the evidence while in this case most of the Illinois House members have actually only seen the report from the House Impeachment Committee.

I get it - they didn't have their version of The Starr Report.

peacock2121 wrote:I get it - they didn't have their version of The Starr Report.

I hope we're not talking about THAT kind of "pay to play" in this case!

I knew I should just stuck to hustling Dawn Clark Netsch to get extra income......

Did you hear the speech he gave today? He trots out poor women and children and says this is why they're impeaching him. I did not hear him once mention his trying to sell the Senate seat as the base reason for his impeachment. It was a perfect political speech.

it is wrong to impeach him right after christmas

BigDrawMan wrote:it is wrong to impeach him right after christmas

True, but they couldn't seem to get their act together to impeach him any faster. --Bob