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I just found out that I am a direct descendent of Robert the Bruce.

I think that makes me a cousin of BobJuch's

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I just found out that I am a direct descendant of Robert the Bruce.

I think that makes me a cousin of BobJuch's

Yes you are! He's my 21st great-grand uncle.

His first wife, Isabel de Clare, is the daughter of Gilbert, my 22nd great-grandfather.

Bob Juch wrote:

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I just found out that I am a direct descendant of Robert the Bruce.

I think that makes me a cousin of BobJuch's

Yes you are! He's my 21st great-grand uncle.

His first wife, Isabel de Clare, is the daughter of Gilbert, my 22nd great-grandfather.

I'd love to see if we're related, Bob. When I have some time I'll pull out the ol' tree. (seriously)

Bob Juch wrote:

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I just found out that I am a direct descendant of Robert the Bruce.

I think that makes me a cousin of BobJuch's

Yes you are! He's my 21st great-grand uncle.

His first wife, Isabel de Clare, is the daughter of Gilbert, my 22nd great-grandfather.

If that's so, unless Cal is a descendant of Isabel's, you're only related by marriage.

Robert is my 25XGreat Grandfather

MarleysGh0st wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I just found out that I am a direct descendant of Robert the Bruce.

I think that makes me a cousin of BobJuch's

Yes you are! He's my 21st great-grand uncle.

His first wife, Isabel de Clare, is the daughter of Gilbert, my 22nd great-grandfather.

If that's so, unless Cal is a descendant of Isabel's, you're only related by marriage.

Seeing how Bruce had no children by his second wife, Christina de Ireby, if he's descended from Bruce, it's through Isabel.

Also, I expect Cal actually meant the Robert Bruce who was the grandson of the one I was discussing. He's the one depicted in Braveheart. There were many generations of Robert Bruces. Robert I, King of Scots (11 July 1274 – 7 June 1329) is my 21st great-grand uncle as his wife, Elizabeth de Burgh was the daughter of Richard Óg de Burgh, 2nd Earl of Ulster, my 22nd great-grandfather.

Of course that means he's descended from the previous Robert Bruces as well.

I meant Robert I, King of Scots (in History classes, he is the ONLY one referred to as Robert the Bruce).

Yes, it is through Isabel.

And he's actually my 23xGreat Grandfather. I typed it wrong before.

I ent further, and found out that William I (William the Conqueror) is my 30xGreat Grandfather.

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I meant Robert I, King of Scots (in History classes, he is the ONLY one referred to as Robert the Bruce).

Yes, it is through Isabel.

And he's actually my 23xGreat Grandfather. I typed it wrong before.

Isabel was his grandmother.

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I ent further, and found out that William I (William the Conqueror) is my 30xGreat Grandfather.

He's my 25th GGF. Actaully I have something over 100 lines of descent from him.

Robert the Bruce was married to Isabel Mar. His grandmother was Isabel de Clare.

Either we're talking past each other, or you are wrong.

TheCalvinator24 wrote:Robert the Bruce was married to Isabel Mar. His grandmother was Isabel de Clare.

Either we're talking past each other, or you are wrong.

Bruce's first wife was Isabella of Mar, his second was Elizabeth de Burgh. Which are you descended from?

I descend from Robert the Bruce and Isabel Mar (that's how it is listed on our family tree at ancestry.com).

I can see now that we were talking past each other because of the variation of Isabel/Isabella. Both versions are used.

This just makes my head spin.

I did like the way it all got resolved.

Quite mature.

I doubt I could even name all my cousins.....

lb13

lb:

I doubt I could even name all my cousins.....

I had a cousin named Bruce. I think a tree fell on him.

littlebeast13 wrote:I doubt I could even name all my cousins.....

lb13

I can, I only have one first cousin and I have two half-cousins.

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote: I can, I only have one first cousin and I have two half-cousins.

You've got me beat by two half cousins - My dad was an only child, my Mom has a brother with one child. I haven't seen my only first cousin in over ten years - I'm bad that way.

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I descend from Robert the Bruce and Isabel Mar (that's how it is listed on our family tree at ancestry.com).

I can see now that we were talking past each other because of the variation of Isabel/Isabella. Both versions are used.

In that case you have a lot more famous living cousins than me!

Marjorie Bruce, the only child of that marriage, grew up and married Walter Stewart, the 6th High Steward of Ireland. Their son, Robert II, King of Scots, was born after his mother died! She was thrown from a horse and killed. Someone came by and cut Robert from her. Robert was the founder of the house of Stewart.

Which child of Robert II is your ancestor?

Bob Juch wrote:

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I descend from Robert the Bruce and Isabel Mar (that's how it is listed on our family tree at ancestry.com).

I can see now that we were talking past each other because of the variation of Isabel/Isabella. Both versions are used.

In that case you have a lot more famous living cousins than me!

Marjorie Bruce, the only child of that marriage, grew up and married Walter Stewart, the 6th High Steward of Ireland. Their son, Robert II, King of Scots, was born after his mother died! She was thrown from a horse and killed. Someone came by and cut Robert from her. Robert was the founder of the house of Stewart.

Which child of Robert II is your ancestor?

Jane Yolen wrote a book called Girl in A Cage which is a fictional telling of Marjorie Bruce's life. It was one of Maddie's favorite books when she was younger.

gotribego26 wrote:

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote: I can, I only have one first cousin and I have two half-cousins.

You've got me beat by two half cousins - My dad was an only child, my Mom has a brother with one child. I haven't seen my only first cousin in over ten years - I'm bad that way.

I'm a little short on first cousins too. My mother was an only child. My father was his mother's only child. My paternal Grandfather was 55 when my father was born. My father had 5 half siblings all of whom where considerably older than him, he was already an uncle when he was born.

Bob Juch wrote:

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I descend from Robert the Bruce and Isabel Mar (that's how it is listed on our family tree at ancestry.com).

I can see now that we were talking past each other because of the variation of Isabel/Isabella. Both versions are used.

In that case you have a lot more famous living cousins than me!

Marjorie Bruce, the only child of that marriage, grew up and married Walter Stewart, the 6th High Steward of Ireland. Their son, Robert II, King of Scots, was born after his mother died! She was thrown from a horse and killed. Someone came by and cut Robert from her. Robert was the founder of the house of Stewart.

Which child of Robert II is your ancestor?

Jean Stewart->James Sandilands->John Sandilands (b. 1411)->James Sandilands (b. 1433)->John Sandilands (b. 1464)->James Sandilands (b. 1482)->John Sandilands (b. 1505)->James Sandilands (b. 1525)->James Sandilands (b. 1576)->Sir W Sandilands (b. 1600)->James Sandilands (b. 1636)->James Sandilands (b. 1664)->Nicholas Sandlin->John Sandland->Randolph Sandlin (b. 1755)->Randolph Sandlin (b. 1775)->Fuller Sandlin->Nancy Sandlin->Daniel M Scott->Walter M Scott->Jackie Lee Scott->Gerald Eugene Scott->Marty Dale Scott

TheCalvinator24 wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I descend from Robert the Bruce and Isabel Mar (that's how it is listed on our family tree at ancestry.com).

I can see now that we were talking past each other because of the variation of Isabel/Isabella. Both versions are used.

In that case you have a lot more famous living cousins than me!

Marjorie Bruce, the only child of that marriage, grew up and married Walter Stewart, the 6th High Steward of Ireland. Their son, Robert II, King of Scots, was born after his mother died! She was thrown from a horse and killed. Someone came by and cut Robert from her. Robert was the founder of the house of Stewart.

Which child of Robert II is your ancestor?

Jean Stewart->James Sandilands->John Sandilands (b. 1411)->James Sandilands (b. 1433)->John Sandilands (b. 1464)->James Sandilands (b. 1482)->John Sandilands (b. 1505)->James Sandilands (b. 1525)->James Sandilands (b. 1576)->Sir W Sandilands (b. 1600)->James Sandilands (b. 1636)->James Sandilands (b. 1664)->Nicholas Sandlin->John Sandland->Randolph Sandlin (b. 1755)->Randolph Sandlin (b. 1775)->Fuller Sandlin->Nancy Sandlin->Daniel M Scott->Walter M Scott->Jackie Lee Scott->Gerald Eugene Scott->Marty Dale Scott

What I find most amusing about genealogy is the assumption that nobody ever cheated on their husband.

I just discovered I'm a direct descendant of Adam.

I guess that makes me cousin to a lot of y'all.

silverscreenselect wrote:I just discovered I'm a direct descendant of Adam.

I guess that makes me cousin to a lot of y'all.

And Noah too.