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She wants it and she wants it now. And if she doesn't get it, odds on she will throw a hissy fit and stomp her feet.
I'll say this one more time very slowly.

She. Has. No. Experience.

If Cuomo wants the job and Paterson picks her over him because of her last name there are gonna be a lot of angry New Yorkers to deal with.
Of course Paterson's got practically no experience either so he'd just be a clueless governor picking a clueless senator.
The fact that she's even getting consideration is a joke.

Good times in New York.

clem21 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_ ... enate_seat

She wants it and she wants it now. And if she doesn't get it, odds on she will throw a hissy fit and stomp her feet.
I'll say this one more time very slowly.

She. Has. No. Experience.

If Cuomo wants the job and Paterson picks her over him because of her last name there are gonna be a lot of angry New Yorkers to deal with.
Of course Paterson's got practically no experience either so he'd just be a clueless governor picking a clueless senator.
The fact that she's even getting consideration is a joke.

Good times in New York.

I would love to see if she could get elected through the normal path, but I agree it is a big job for someone to be handed.

clem21 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_ ... enate_seat

She wants it and she wants it now. And if she doesn't get it, odds on she will throw a hissy fit and stomp her feet.
I'll say this one more time very slowly.

She. Has. No. Experience.

If Cuomo wants the job and Paterson picks her over him because of her last name there are gonna be a lot of angry New Yorkers to deal with.
Of course Paterson's got practically no experience either so he'd just be a clueless governor picking a clueless senator.
The fact that she's even getting consideration is a joke.

Good times in New York.

For a nation that deliberately and consciously rejected royalty and nobility we can't seem to get away from political nobility.

To anyone who thinks America was founded on the concept of earned rather than inherited power, I have three words:

John Quincy Adams.

DadofTwins wrote:To anyone who thinks America was founded on the concept of earned rather than inherited power, I have three words:

John Quincy Adams.

You mean John Quincy Adams who started his work for the government on George Washington's appointment. Who wrote the Monroe Doctrine. Who was a lawyer, a minister to 5 countries, a secretary of state and a senator all before he defeated the very popular Andrew Jackson to become president.
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I don't have a big problem with someone with a famous last name getting a post they're ready for. Andrew Cuomo, who I obviously support, has a famous last name himself. He has also served the state of New York faithfully and has shown that New York's interests matter to him.

Caroline Kennedy has done jackshnit to prepare her for this job. The charity work and cause/foundation leading is great. It does not make her ready to be a senator. And the fact that she's pushing for it so hard only leads me to believe that she wants it hor her own glory more than to serve New York.
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I agree, your entry level political job should not be U.S. Senator. Colorado's Mike Miles learned that hard lesson four years ago by running into the very electable juggernaut by the name of Ken Salazar in the primary.

Maybe she's thinking she'll get national experience in the Senate with OJT, get elected on her own, then get serious about becoming the first woman President. She'd be 58 then, if I calculated correctly. Just about right.

clem21 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_ ... enate_seat

She wants it and she wants it now. And if she doesn't get it, odds on she will throw a hissy fit and stomp her feet. I'll say this one more time very slowly.

She. Has. No. Experience.

If Cuomo wants the job and Paterson picks her over him because of her last name there are gonna be a lot of angry New Yorkers to deal with.
Of course Paterson's got practically no experience either so he'd just be a clueless governor picking a clueless senator.
The fact that she's even getting consideration is a joke.

Good times in New York.

Bite her

Paterson should get everyone riled up and choose someone from Buffalo.

I've heard that Fran Drescher "the nanny" wants the job.

okaaay...

Caroline is more qualified than Hillary was, not that I'm pulling for her.

This guy seems to have an axe to grind w/ Caroline, but he makes some good points:

http://www.slate.com/id/2206292

she should team up with sarah palin and run for president

the nanny can be secretary of defense

the nanny can be secretary of defense

Does that job involve much, um......talking?

I have to say, when she guested on Law & Order last year, she wasn't a half-bad actress, and her voice was much less irritating than normal! I have never actually seen "The Nanny" and can't imagine any circumstances where I would want to.

Bob Juch wrote:Caroline is more qualified than Hillary was, not that I'm pulling for her.

Ha! I was absolutely waiting for someone to say this. I knew someone would too, because this thought was put out in two articles that I've read today so before I start please quote the article assuming the idea is not your own.

Hillary Clinton was the First Lady of both Arkansas and the United States. If you don't think that matters, then I highly recommend you read "All Too Human" by George Stephanopolous. There are multiple accounts of Hillary's heavy involvement in the Clinton presidency, but Stephanopolous does a great job of capturing the personal aspects.

She worked almost singlehandedly on her health care initiative. Yes, it failed miserably, but at least she had experience with working with the Congress and the inner working of the Senate. Clinton has always been a big supporter of causes, specifically the welfare of children. She was on the board of Wal-Mart. She ran the Children's Health Insurance campaign.

Caroline Kennedy is the president of the Kennedy Library Foundation and she helps run the Kennedy Profiles in Courage award. She also works with a number of humanitarian causes. How nice.

If you want to argue for Kennedy this is not the way to go.

clem21 wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Caroline is more qualified than Hillary was, not that I'm pulling for her.

Ha! I was absolutely waiting for someone to say this. I knew someone would too, because this thought was put out in two articles that I've read today so before I start please quote the article assuming the idea is not your own.

Hillary Clinton was the First Lady of both Arkansas and the United States. If you don't think that matters, then I highly recommend you read "All Too Human" by George Stephanopolous. There are multiple accounts of Hillary's heavy involvement in the Clinton presidency, but Stephanopolous does a great job of capturing the personal aspects.

She worked almost singlehandedly on her health care initiative. Yes, it failed miserably, but at least she had experience with working with the Congress and the inner working of the Senate.

her work on health care was bad experience, not good experience, and I'm not sure if she's learned form it.

I don't know why people are so upset over Caroline's lack of experience. We have 99 other senators with experience and look where it's gotten us. Maybe some new blood is needed, even if it's blue.

clem21 wrote:She. Has. No. Experience.

That only matters for VP candidates!

Bob Juch wrote:Caroline is more qualified than Hillary was, not that I'm pulling for her.

Hillary did not "inherit" a Senate seat. She ran for an open seat and was elected by the people of New York.

Admittedly, the voters don't always value experience very much, as evidenced by our current POTUS-to-be. Still, the voters chose Hillary, not the Governor of New York.

The Democrats are not handling the transition well. The Illinois seat will be badly tainted, no matter who is eventually appointed. Joe Biden is stumping for a caretaker in Deleware for two years so his son can run for the seat when he gets back from duty in Iraq. Now Caroline has taken her "campaign" to the gossip columns.

Obama has unleashed a lot of ugliness in the Democratic party and it didn't stop at the election.

silverscreenselect wrote:Obama has unleashed a lot of ugliness in the Democratic party and it didn't stop at the election.

You're living proof of that!

Spitzer had experience.

silverscreenselect wrote: Obama has unleashed a lot of ugliness in the Democratic party and it didn't stop at the election.

FWEET! Foul! Unfair generalization! Where's Referee Phil Luckett?

This is like football -- the QB gets too much credit when you win and too much blame when you lose.

I saw much of the best in politics over the past year, and yeah, there's bad stuff too, and Rexer is as likely to be responsible for as much of it as Obama is.

I try to stay out of the political stuff but I was dumbfounded this morning. In the morning while I'm getting ready for work I've started flipping on the local CBS channel just to get the weather. Not a big deal in Houston since our weather runs the gamut of hot and humid to cool and humid but I like to know the temperature and whether or not the humidity has coalesced into actual precipitation.

Anyway. This morning I flipped the TV on and it was still on at 7:00 am when the CBS Early Show started. It is the national news/talk show with Harry Smith and Julie Chen (I looked her up). This morning they started off with the Caroline Kennedy story and had video of reporters trying to ask her questions. When they came back from the video Harry Smith said something about people starting to object to "elites" automatically getting these appointments when Julie Chen interrupted and said that it was unfair for people to question Kennedy since the governor gets to pick. She finished with "Leave her alone, everyone!".

A network "journalist" is saying "Leave her alone, everyone"? That just seemed bizarre to me. I know CBS isn't much of a news organization anymore but I find it hard to believe a quasi-news anchor would be critical of reporters asking questions of a person who has announced her interest in a Senate vacancy. I wasn't even sure I heard it right so I re-wound the video and watched it again. That's what she said.

clem21 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_ ... enate_seat

She wants it and she wants it now. And if she doesn't get it, odds on she will throw a hissy fit and stomp her feet.

I haven't seen or read anything to give an indication of this behaviour being likely. Have I missed something or is this just your personal opinion because you don't like her and/or don't think she should have the job?

Caroline Kennedy (is she still married to Schlossberg?) is one of the last people I would put on the list of one who would throw a hissy fit and stomp her feet. She's spent her life being gracious and strong in the face of almost constant tragedy and the glare of the public light. One could do worse than to choose someone with those qualifications.

I've never understood why politicians' widows get to have the husbands' positions (like Sonny Bono), this at least makes more sense than that.

Estonut wrote:

clem21 wrote:She. Has. No. Experience.

That only matters for VP candidates!

Yes!