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USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:23 pm
by Jeemie
...at the school level, since it certainly doesn't at the NCAA level.

USC is going to wear it's red home jerseys at the finale with UCLA, even though they're the road team and by the rules should be wearing white (since UCLA is wearing their home blues).

So, the NCAA is going to punish them by stripping them of a timeout.

But UCLA likes the spirit of USC's decision (it's not the first time this has happened between the two of them) and so therefore will burn a timeout as soon as USC's timeout is stripped.

Um...NCAA..question?

If UCLA doesn't care, then how about using some common sense and WAIVING THE RULE?

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:26 pm
by ulysses5019
Jeemie wrote:...at the school level, since it certainly doesn't at the NCAA level.

USC is going to wear it's red home jerseys at the finale with UCLA, even though they're the road team and by the rules should be wearing white (since UCLA is wearing their home blues).

So, the NCAA is going to punish them by stripping them of a timeout.

But UCLA likes the spirit of USC's decision (it's not the first time this has happened between the two of them) and so therefore will burn a timeout as soon as USC's timeout is stripped.

Um...NCAA..question?

If UCLA doesn't care, then how about using some common sense and WAIVING THE RULE?
The PAC-10 commissioner has petitioned the NCAA to waive the rule but has not received an answer yet.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:26 pm
by TheCalvinator24
I think it's a stupid rule, but I guess they didn't want to leave it to the game officials' discretion. It seems to me that if the colors are such that the officials will not get confused, then there is no good reason not to allow both teams to wear their "home" uniforms.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:13 am
by peacock2121
I think it's great that they got to work it out on their own.

It is sweet.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:08 am
by etaoin22
Put extra rings of white around the arms and say the uniforms could be considered either to have a base color of either white or red, topologcially speaking.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:42 pm
by lilclyde54
All's well that end's well. It will make the game more fun to watch.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:07 pm
by silverscreenselect
A similar color choice situation may occur in this year's Peach (I refuse to call it the Chik-fil-A) Bowl. LSU is one of the few teams that chooses to wear white jerseys at home. This year's Georgia Tech team revived the Bobby Dodd tradition of wearing white jerseys at home as well, wearing white for all twelve games this year. It will be interesting to see which team is allowed to wear white this time (I have no idea what Tech's dark jersey would be, probably either gold or a navy blue).

The NCAA rule is that the home team has the absolute right to wear its dark jersey at home. It may choose to wear white jerseys at home, but the the visiting team may veto that choice (this happens most often early in the season when a team wants to avoid wearing dark jerseys to remain a bit cooler in hot weather). Visiting teams have occasionally refused to allow LSU to wear white at home (most notably Vanderbilt when they were upset at LSU's hiring away of their coach Gerry DiNardo) for psychological reasons.

In the NFL, the home team has the absolute right to choose whatever jersey it wants to wear (and can choose different color jerseys for different games), but it must exercise the choice before the season starts. Dallas is the best known example. Some teams (most notably division foes Washington and Philadelphia) require Dallas to wear its dark blue jerseys when they visit.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:25 pm
by Ritterskoop
silverscreenselect wrote:
In the NFL, the home team has the absolute right to choose whatever jersey it wants to wear (and can choose different color jerseys for different games), but it must exercise the choice before the season starts. Dallas is the best known example. Some teams (most notably division foes Washington and Philadelphia) require Dallas to wear its dark blue jerseys when they visit.
The Panthers wear white in September and October, when it's hot here and the black jerseys would soak up too much sun.

Then they wear black in November and December, again to attract as much sun as possible.

Then there's the alternate blue, which is two games, and my favorite color anyway. There was a crappy pewter color early on but it looked flat.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:59 pm
by TheConfessor
silverscreenselect wrote:The NCAA rule is that the home team has the absolute right to wear its dark jersey at home.
Why would they want to? If I were a quarterback, I think I'd have a better chance of spotting an open receiver if he was wearing white. I wouldn't want to be a Boise State QB trying to find a blue receiver on a blue field.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:26 pm
by silverscreenselect
TheConfessor wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:The NCAA rule is that the home team has the absolute right to wear its dark jersey at home.
Why would they want to? If I were a quarterback, I think I'd have a better chance of spotting an open receiver if he was wearing white. I wouldn't want to be a Boise State QB trying to find a blue receiver on a blue field.
Although there are many exceptions, football and hockey teams have traditionally worn dark uniforms at home, while baseball and basketball teams have traditionally worn white uniforms at home. I'm not sure how it all got started and trends change over time (especially in hockey). I would guess that in football, fans wear the team color to support the team (it certainly looks impressive to see a stadium that's all red or all blue. But you would think the same rule would apply in basketball as well but it never has....

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:28 pm
by Bob Juch
I watched part of the game. It just didn't look right.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:45 pm
by Jeemie
silverscreenselect wrote:Although there are many exceptions, football and hockey teams have traditionally worn dark uniforms at home, while baseball and basketball teams have traditionally worn white uniforms at home. I'm not sure how it all got started and trends change over time (especially in hockey). I would guess that in football, fans wear the team color to support the team (it certainly looks impressive to see a stadium that's all red or all blue. But you would think the same rule would apply in basketball as well but it never has....
Until just a few years ago, the tradition was the other way in hockey, and home teams wore white.

Then they switched up, and now home teams wear dark.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:13 am
by ulysses5019
Bob Juch wrote:I watched part of the game. It just didn't look right.

What part? The score looked perfectly fine to me. I've been going to the USC-UCLA game since 1968 and I always thought it looked great with both wearing their "home" uniforms.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:28 am
by gotribego26
ulysses5019 wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:I watched part of the game. It just didn't look right.

What part? The score looked perfectly fine to me. I've been going to the USC-UCLA game since 1968 and I always thought it looked great with both wearing their "home" uniforms.
I agree - with the blue that UCLA wears it works for me - I'think it works well.

The NFL wouldn't allow it, but the Panthers alternate Blue against the Saints or Flacons in Black would be a good match-up.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:07 am
by christie1111
silverscreenselect wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:The NCAA rule is that the home team has the absolute right to wear its dark jersey at home.
Why would they want to? If I were a quarterback, I think I'd have a better chance of spotting an open receiver if he was wearing white. I wouldn't want to be a Boise State QB trying to find a blue receiver on a blue field.
Although there are many exceptions, football and hockey teams have traditionally worn dark uniforms at home, while baseball and basketball teams have traditionally worn white uniforms at home. I'm not sure how it all got started and trends change over time (especially in hockey). I would guess that in football, fans wear the team color to support the team (it certainly looks impressive to see a stadium that's all red or all blue. But you would think the same rule would apply in basketball as well but it never has....
A Penn State White Out is pretty impressive.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:38 am
by silverscreenselect
Jeemie wrote: Until just a few years ago, the tradition was the other way in hockey, and home teams wore white.

Then they switched up, and now home teams wear dark.
Actually, in the days of the six-team NHL, the home teams wore dark uniforms and gradually got away from that in the 60's and 70's. Now it's gone back the other way.

The NFL allows teams to designate two games a year for "throwback" uniforms. The Cowboys actually wore blue for their game against the 49'ers, and other teams have adopted odd-looking uniforms as well.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:51 am
by SportsFan68
silverscreenselect wrote: The NFL allows teams to designate two games a year for "throwback" uniforms. The Cowboys actually wore blue for their game against the 49'ers, and other teams have adopted odd-looking uniforms as well.
SteelersFan and I both object to the throwback uniforms for our own teams. I like the Steelers throwbacks -- reminds me of the Immaculate Reception and One for the Thumb in '81. He still thinks they're ugly and clunky and besides, he intends to go to the Superbowl THIS year.

We wore our old Orange Crush uniforms Sunday -- ugh! Well, we did win. I also intend to go to the Superbowl THIS year wearing this year's uniforms.

Re: USC, UCLA- at least common sense prevails...

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:57 pm
by christie1111
SportsFan68 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote: The NFL allows teams to designate two games a year for "throwback" uniforms. The Cowboys actually wore blue for their game against the 49'ers, and other teams have adopted odd-looking uniforms as well.
SteelersFan and I both object to the throwback uniforms for our own teams. I like the Steelers throwbacks -- reminds me of the Immaculate Reception and One for the Thumb in '81. He still thinks they're ugly and clunky and besides, he intends to go to the Superbowl THIS year.

We wore our old Orange Crush uniforms Sunday -- ugh! Well, we did win. I also intend to go to the Superbowl THIS year wearing this year's uniforms.
Go Broncos!