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in the leg. He has been released.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2008 ... hot-wound/

peacock2121 wrote:in the leg. He has been released.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2008 ... hot-wound/

Who??????

a1mamacat wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:in the leg. He has been released.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2008 ... hot-wound/

Who??????

He is a pretty famous football player.

American football.

Here's the saddest part.

I read this and was not surprised. I mean not even a blink. If you asked me for the first person in sports to accidentally get shot in the leg I'd go with Pacman Jones and then Plaxico (and then maybe Isiah Thomas' daughter )

The Giants may be the most focused, least ego-driven, team oriented team in the NFL in quite a while.

That is, 52 out of the 53 Giants have been that way all season. Then there's Plaxico Burress.

Last year, they unloaded Jeremy Shockey. I doubt you'll see much more of Burress on the field this season or in a Giants uniform after this season. Toomer is getting on in years, but the rest of the Giants receivers are a young talented corps and they also have David Tyree, the Super Bowl hero, available next year as well.

They'll regroup and move on and Burress will find himself in some location where his antics will be more tolerated. Like Dallas or Oakland.

clem21 wrote:Here's the saddest part.

I read this and was not surprised. I mean not even a blink. If you asked me for the first person in sports to accidentally get shot in the leg I'd go with Pacman Jones and then Plaxico (and then maybe Isiah Thomas' daughter )

Well, my worries about whether he would be healthy enough to hop off my bench due to his previous injury are now gone. Being shot sort of seals his fate on my team.

I am sorry that he was hurt though.

silverscreenselect wrote:The Giants may be the most focused, least ego-driven, team oriented team in the NFL in quite a while.

That is, 52 out of the 53 Giants have been that way all season. Then there's Plaxico Burress.

Last year, they unloaded Jeremy Shockey. I doubt you'll see much more of Burress on the field this season or in a Giants uniform after this season. Toomer is getting on in years, but the rest of the Giants receivers are a young talented corps and they also have David Tyree, the Super Bowl hero, available next year as well.

They'll regroup and move on and Burress will find himself in some location where his antics will be more tolerated. Like Dallas or Oakland.

I defended Plaxico for his time in Pittsburgh and actually wanted the Steelers to re-sign him.

I still wish they had- because I don't think he would have pulled this crap in Pittsburgh (Why? because he never really did).

But this stuff makes my stance more difficult to defend.

New York was the worst possible place for him to end up.

clem21 wrote:Here's the saddest part.

I read this and was not surprised. I mean not even a blink. If you asked me for the first person in sports to accidentally get shot in the leg I'd go with Pacman Jones and then Plaxico (and then maybe Isiah Thomas' daughter )

I would've guessed Pacman first and Stephen Jackson of the Golden State Warriors second.

Jeemie wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:The Giants may be the most focused, least ego-driven, team oriented team in the NFL in quite a while.

That is, 52 out of the 53 Giants have been that way all season. Then there's Plaxico Burress.

Last year, they unloaded Jeremy Shockey. I doubt you'll see much more of Burress on the field this season or in a Giants uniform after this season. Toomer is getting on in years, but the rest of the Giants receivers are a young talented corps and they also have David Tyree, the Super Bowl hero, available next year as well.

They'll regroup and move on and Burress will find himself in some location where his antics will be more tolerated. Like Dallas or Oakland.

I defended Plaxico for his time in Pittsburgh and actually wanted the Steelers to re-sign him.

I still wish they had- because I don't think he would have pulled this crap in Pittsburgh (Why? because he never really did).

But this stuff makes my stance more difficult to defend.

New York was the worst possible place for him to end up.

I was glad to see him leave town.In pgh, his fuckups were small, but I intuit Cowher and Rooney saw where he was headed.Giving him $30million wasnt going to make his behaviour any better.
He just aint Stiller material.

BigDrawMan wrote:I was glad to see him leave town.In pgh, his fuckups were small, but I intuit Cowher and Rooney saw where he was headed.Giving him $30million wasnt going to make his behaviour any better.
He just aint Stiller material.

That's a load of crap.

Greg Lloyd held a gun in his kid's mouth to "discipline" him.

Joe Greene was an insane mo-foer on and off the field for his first few years in the league.

Ernie Holmes shot at cops on the Ohio Turnpike and assaulted a barmaid.

The idea that there's such a thing as "Steeler material" is ludicrous and a way for Steeler fans to act morally superior- Steelers have had just as many troubled players as other teams.

Plex is a local boy and my son's English teacher taught him back in the day. He's a nice enough guy, but not particularly bright.

My husband and I think he was getting a lap dance and the girl reached for the wrong weapon. At least that would make sense and be funny at the same time...

clem21 wrote:Here's the saddest part.

I read this and was not surprised. I mean not even a blink. If you asked me for the first person in sports to accidentally get shot in the leg I'd go with Pacman Jones and then Plaxico (and then maybe Isiah Thomas' daughter )

I'd put Stephon Marbury at the top of the list, but Plaxico Burress wouldn't be far behind. Pacman would be a little further down.

But my criteria might be different than yours. My list is decent people who may have big hearts (I think Marbury does), but just butt stupid with poor impulse control and inferior social skills. I think the right coach/mentor/authority figure could turn Burress around, but neither Cowher nor Coughlin is that type of person.

Plaxico Burress has turned himself into police in NY.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/02/sport ... ref=sports

Burress, a star player with a history of trouble both on and off the field, could face more than three years in prison, the authorities have said, because he did not have a permit to carry a gun in New York City. A law enforcement official said that the gun, a Glock semiautomatic pistol, was recovered at Burress’s home in Totowa, N.J.

According to state law, a person carrying a gun without a permit faces 3 ½ to 15 years in prison if prosecutors prove that the person intended to use the weapon on another person. If intent to use cannot be proved, the person may still face felony charges that could result in up to seven years in prison.

andrewjackson wrote:Plaxico Burress has turned himself into police in NY.

Wow...I knew he was troubled, but he's a magician, too?

WheresFanny wrote: But my criteria might be different than yours. My list is decent people who may have big hearts (I think Marbury does), but just butt stupid with poor impulse control and inferior social skills. I think the right coach/mentor/authority figure could turn Burress around, but neither Cowher nor Coughlin is that type of person.

I don't know of any professional head coaches/managers who are the types of "mentors" who can turn troubled players around. High school ... yes. College... sometimes. But at the pro level, you've got guys making millions who don't want to listen to anyone. Coaches don't get paid to hold the hand of troubled players. They get paid to coach and either put up with nonsense from spoiled prima donnas whose worth to the team exceeds their troublemaking factor or get rid of those (like Shockey and now Burress) who don't.

And on a semi-unrelated subject, I don't know of any night club that I would want to carry a gun into. If a place is so potentially dangerous I'd need a gun to protect myself, I'd just as soon go someplace else.

bloomberg is acting like a complete prig. Burress's punishment will be losing out on the rest of a $35 million contract!

I apologize. The link that I posted is now to a different story about Burress. The quotes that I put up are no longer in the story that is linked.

I wish they wouldn't do that with their URLs.

I think mini may have come up with the story behind the story on this thing.

tptb want antonio pierce for "questioning"

So now we find the safety was off and the gun was cocked. In his pocket?

Can we add charges of Criminal Dumbassocity? SHEESH!

Jeemie wrote:

BigDrawMan wrote:I was glad to see him leave town.In pgh, his fuckups were small, but I intuit Cowher and Rooney saw where he was headed.Giving him $30million wasnt going to make his behaviour any better.
He just aint Stiller material.

That's a load of crap.

Greg Lloyd held a gun in his kid's mouth to "discipline" him.

Joe Greene was an insane mo-foer on and off the field for his first few years in the league.

Ernie Holmes shot at cops on the Ohio Turnpike and assaulted a barmaid.

The idea that there's such a thing as "Steeler material" is ludicrous and a way for Steeler fans to act morally superior- Steelers have had just as many troubled players as other teams.

sigh
You are the most obtuse person on the planet.

They dint sign him

they dint make him an offer

he had off the field troubles

he was fined for breaking team rules

they needed a big play receiver

he was a big play receiver

yet they dint sign him

are you able to draw any conclusions as to why they dint sign him?!?!?!?!

yoi

silverscreenselect wrote:

WheresFanny wrote: But my criteria might be different than yours. My list is decent people who may have big hearts (I think Marbury does), but just butt stupid with poor impulse control and inferior social skills. I think the right coach/mentor/authority figure could turn Burress around, but neither Cowher nor Coughlin is that type of person.

I don't know of any professional head coaches/managers who are the types of "mentors" who can turn troubled players around. High school ... yes. College... sometimes. But at the pro level, you've got guys making millions who don't want to listen to anyone. Coaches don't get paid to hold the hand of troubled players. They get paid to coach and either put up with nonsense from spoiled prima donnas whose worth to the team exceeds their troublemaking factor or get rid of those (like Shockey and now Burress) who don't.

And on a semi-unrelated subject, I don't know of any night club that I would want to carry a gun into. If a place is so potentially dangerous I'd need a gun to protect myself, I'd just as soon go someplace else.

I didn't mean that one person should be all of those things. Just that having one or more people to be one or more of those things might make difference.

I disagree that no professional head coaches are capable of being mentors. But Coughlin definitely isn't one of them.

WheresFanny wrote:

clem21 wrote:Here's the saddest part.

I read this and was not surprised. I mean not even a blink. If you asked me for the first person in sports to accidentally get shot in the leg I'd go with Pacman Jones and then Plaxico (and then maybe Isiah Thomas' daughter )

I'd put Stephon Marbury at the top of the list, but Plaxico Burress wouldn't be far behind. Pacman would be a little further down.

But my criteria might be different than yours. My list is decent people who may have big hearts (I think Marbury does), but just butt stupid with poor impulse control and inferior social skills. I think the right coach/mentor/authority figure could turn Burress around, but neither Cowher nor Coughlin is that type of person.

there are some men you just cant reach
so, we get what we had last week
which is how he wants it
so he gets it

BigDrawMan wrote:

WheresFanny wrote:

clem21 wrote:Here's the saddest part.

I read this and was not surprised. I mean not even a blink. If you asked me for the first person in sports to accidentally get shot in the leg I'd go with Pacman Jones and then Plaxico (and then maybe Isiah Thomas' daughter )

I'd put Stephon Marbury at the top of the list, but Plaxico Burress wouldn't be far behind. Pacman would be a little further down.

But my criteria might be different than yours. My list is decent people who may have big hearts (I think Marbury does), but just butt stupid with poor impulse control and inferior social skills. I think the right coach/mentor/authority figure could turn Burress around, but neither Cowher nor Coughlin is that type of person.

there are some men you just cant reach
so, we get what we had last week
which is how he wants it
so he gets it

I actually get that (cue sad harmonica music in the background).

minimetoo26 wrote:So now we find the safety was off and the gun was cocked. In his pocket?

Can we add charges of Criminal Dumbassocity? SHEESH!

Supposedly he dropped it and it went off.