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Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:04 pm
by Beebs52
From Wikipedia. I have no idea how much of this is true. Just a comparison with the apparently unstellar record of a former candidate for Veep and former Presidents.

He went on to receive his Juris Doctor from Syracuse University College of Law in 1968,[14] where by his own description he found it to be "the biggest bore in the world" and pulled many all-nighters to get by.[10][15] During his first year there, he was accused of having plagiarized 5 of 15 pages of a law review article. Biden said it was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and he was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F, which was subsequently dropped from his record.[15] He was admitted to the Delaware Bar in 1969.[14]

Biden received five student draft deferments during this period, with the first coming in late 1963 and the last in early 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam War.[16] In April 1968, he was reclassified by the Selective Service System as not available for service due to having had asthma as a teenager.[16] Biden was not a part of the anti-Vietnam War movement; he would later say that at the time he was preoccupied with marriage and law school, and that he "wore sports coats ... not tie-dyed".[

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:38 pm
by sunflower
Well I can vouch for him on law school being a huge bore...I don't even know how I made it through a year, I switched to business school after one year and eventually formally dropped out of law school. I give kudos to anyone who makes it through...even more credit if someone truly enjoys it!!!

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:39 pm
by TheCalvinator24
sunflower wrote:Well I can vouch for him on law school being a huge bore...I don't even know how I made it through a year, I switched to business school after one year and eventually formally dropped out of law school. I give kudos to anyone who makes it through...even more credit if someone truly enjoys it!!!
I thought law school was a blast, but that was partly because I refused to take it too seriously.

I thought Grad School was boring.

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:43 pm
by sunflower
TheCalvinator24 wrote:
sunflower wrote:Well I can vouch for him on law school being a huge bore...I don't even know how I made it through a year, I switched to business school after one year and eventually formally dropped out of law school. I give kudos to anyone who makes it through...even more credit if someone truly enjoys it!!!
I thought law school was a blast, but that was partly because I refused to take it too seriously.

I thought Grad School was boring.
I was just bored, bored, bored every day. And I'm not the type of person to study...so doing the one exam is 100% of your grade thing didn't work for me. The only parts I liked were the practical/competition type things such as moot court and the client advocacy competition. But just sitting in a classroom and listening to blah blah blah when I knew I had 3 months before I'd be tested on it didn't work for me.

Business school was fun for me but we had a lot more real life stuff going on, I found it to be more engaging.

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:47 pm
by Beebs52
See what a nice discussion we're having based on my stupid initial post? Why can't we do that all the time?

Of course, I can't contribute anything about law school or MBAness because I'm only a lowly BA sort.

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:49 pm
by sunflower
There is nothing lowly about a BA!!!

I only had to pursue some sort of graduate degree because I initially majored in Psychology. About 3 years in, I decided it wasn't for me but the guidance was that I was better to finish within 4 years and do a graduate level degree in another field (instead of taking 5 or 6 years to switch to a new undergraduate major).

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:50 pm
by sunflower
And it can always be this way, if you hang with the right peeps! 8)

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:59 pm
by Beebs52
sunflower wrote:There is nothing lowly about a BA!!!

I only had to pursue some sort of graduate degree because I initially majored in Psychology. About 3 years in, I decided it wasn't for me but the guidance was that I was better to finish within 4 years and do a graduate level degree in another field (instead of taking 5 or 6 years to switch to a new undergraduate major).
Dude! Our youngest is getting his degree in psychology. I think he's going to go to work as a landman if he can get the job.

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:04 pm
by sunflower
Beebs52 wrote:
sunflower wrote:There is nothing lowly about a BA!!!

I only had to pursue some sort of graduate degree because I initially majored in Psychology. About 3 years in, I decided it wasn't for me but the guidance was that I was better to finish within 4 years and do a graduate level degree in another field (instead of taking 5 or 6 years to switch to a new undergraduate major).
Dude! Our youngest is getting his degree in psychology. I think he's going to go to work as a landman if he can get the job.
What is a landman? I don't think I've ever heard of that before.

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:06 pm
by Beebs52
sunflower wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
sunflower wrote:There is nothing lowly about a BA!!!

I only had to pursue some sort of graduate degree because I initially majored in Psychology. About 3 years in, I decided it wasn't for me but the guidance was that I was better to finish within 4 years and do a graduate level degree in another field (instead of taking 5 or 6 years to switch to a new undergraduate major).
Dude! Our youngest is getting his degree in psychology. I think he's going to go to work as a landman if he can get the job.
What is a landman? I don't think I've ever heard of that before.
Working for an oil/gas exploration company, securing leases and doing title work and stuff like that. A lot of travel into the boondocks, but extraordinarly good pay. A good job for a young person. If it happens. Or, maybe graduate school, although he doesn't fancy loans.

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:10 pm
by sunflower
Beebs52 wrote:
sunflower wrote:
Beebs52 wrote: Dude! Our youngest is getting his degree in psychology. I think he's going to go to work as a landman if he can get the job.
What is a landman? I don't think I've ever heard of that before.
Working for an oil/gas exploration company, securing leases and doing title work and stuff like that. A lot of travel into the boondocks, but extraordinarly good pay. A good job for a young person. If it happens. Or, maybe graduate school, although he doesn't fancy loans.
That sounds interesting, yeah I guess up here I wouldn't really hear about jobs like that, more of a regional thing. He can always go to grad school later, maybe even find an employer to pay for it. If he can get a great job (that pays great too) there is not as much pressure for an advanced degree. I just paid off my loans, 8 years later, and was only able to pay them off because I was on Millionaire!!

Re: Biden's Bonafides

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:38 pm
by Beebs52
sunflower wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
sunflower wrote: What is a landman? I don't think I've ever heard of that before.
Working for an oil/gas exploration company, securing leases and doing title work and stuff like that. A lot of travel into the boondocks, but extraordinarly good pay. A good job for a young person. If it happens. Or, maybe graduate school, although he doesn't fancy loans.
That sounds interesting, yeah I guess up here I wouldn't really hear about jobs like that, more of a regional thing. He can always go to grad school later, maybe even find an employer to pay for it. If he can get a great job (that pays great too) there is not as much pressure for an advanced degree. I just paid off my loans, 8 years later, and was only able to pay them off because I was on Millionaire!!

We've discussed corporate psychology and things like that. From what he's said I don't know if he'd like it, but if it were a stepping stone, who knows. He's definitely inherited the "shingle hanging out" that I have carried for many years. You know, the one where every disfunctional weirdo feels it necessary to talk to YOU. NOW. (sorta like here)