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Top Ten Screen Villainesses of All Time

#1 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:26 am

From FHMOnline:

10. Mrs. Voorhees (Betsy Palmer) - Friday the 13th
9. Xenia Onatopp (Famke Janssen) - Goldeneye
8. Wicked Witch (Margaret Hamilton) - Wizard of Oz
7. O-Ren (Lucy Liu) - Kill Bill
6. Nurse Ratched (Louise Fletcher) - Cuckoo's Nest
5. Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) - Misery
4. Alien Queen - Aliens
3. Catherine Trammell (Sharon Stone) - Basic Instinct
2. Catwoman (Various)
1. Alex Forrest (Glenn Close) - Fatal Attraction


This is yet another example of a list compiled by people whose film memories go back only a very short time. If you are going to include someone from a James Bond film, the best Bond villainesses were the early ones, Lotte Lenya in From Russia with Love and Luciana Paluzzi in Thunderball. And how anyone could make a list like this and leave Angela Lansbury in Manchurian Candidate off it is a mystery.

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#2 Post by Ritterskoop » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:10 am

Is O-Ren even the best villain in Kill Bill? If we consider it one movie, which many do, Elle Driver stands out in my memory more than O-Ren. Not that she wasn't badass. But even Vernita Green was badass, and had a very short sequence.
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#3 Post by Ritterskoop » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:10 am

I love being ableto type badass and not have to doctor it up to sneak by Otto.
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#4 Post by mrkelley23 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:57 am

I love laughing at myself while trying to figure out what "ableto" means.

Hadda read it three times before I got it. :oops:
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#5 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:07 am

Cruella DeVil
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#6 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:39 am

I'd nominate

Matty Walker (Kathleen Turner) Body Heat
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Re: Top Ten Screen Villainesses of All Time

#7 Post by Elphaba » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:44 am

silverscreenselect wrote:From FHMOnline:

10. Mrs. Voorhees (Betsy Palmer) - Friday the 13th
9. Xenia Onatopp (Famke Janssen) - Goldeneye
8. Wicked Witch (Margaret Hamilton) - Wizard of Oz
7. O-Ren (Lucy Liu) - Kill Bill
6. Nurse Ratched (Louise Fletcher) - Cuckoo's Nest
5. Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) - Misery
4. Alien Queen - Aliens
3. Catherine Trammell (Sharon Stone) - Basic Instinct
2. Catwoman (Various)
1. Alex Forrest (Glenn Close) - Fatal Attraction

I wouldn't say Villianess, I would say misunderstood.
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Re: Top Ten Screen Villainesses of All Time

#8 Post by Ritterskoop » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:22 pm

Elphaba wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:From FHMOnline:

10. Mrs. Voorhees (Betsy Palmer) - Friday the 13th
9. Xenia Onatopp (Famke Janssen) - Goldeneye
8. Wicked Witch (Margaret Hamilton) - Wizard of Oz
7. O-Ren (Lucy Liu) - Kill Bill
6. Nurse Ratched (Louise Fletcher) - Cuckoo's Nest
5. Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) - Misery
4. Alien Queen - Aliens
3. Catherine Trammell (Sharon Stone) - Basic Instinct
2. Catwoman (Various)
1. Alex Forrest (Glenn Close) - Fatal Attraction

I wouldn't say Villianess, I would say misunderstood.
They are all misunderstood. Depraved on account of they're deprived.

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we never had the love that every child oughta get
We ain't no deliquents;
we're misunderstood
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#9 Post by wbtravis007 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:27 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:Cruella DeVil
Yep. That's the name that popped into my head when I saw the subject.

I mean, wanting to make coats out of puppies?

With a name like Cruella, she's got to be a schmuck ... er ...

Okay, okay. I know.

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#10 Post by wbtravis007 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:31 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:I'd nominate

Matty Walker (Kathleen Turner) Body Heat
Agreed. What a great movie, though. There's something about a movie set in really hot weather that always seems to make it more memorable for me.

One of the many things that I like about Lonely Are the Brave. Talk about a great movie.

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#11 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:39 pm

OK, where's the other list with Angela Lansbury in Manchurian Candidate and Bette Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?

OR Jane Greer's Cathy in Out of the Past, the baddest of all film noir bad girls?

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#12 Post by wbtravis007 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:42 pm

mellytu74 wrote:OK, where's the other list with Angela Lansbury in Manchurian Candidate and Bette Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?

OR Jane Greer's Cathy in Out of the Past, the baddest of all film noir bad girls?
Don't you remember the end of Baby Jane? Brings to mind another candidate, come to think of it: Mommie Dearest.

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#13 Post by VAdame » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:45 pm

Jeebus -- who votes on these things??

2 glaring omissions:

Mrs. Iselin -- Angela Lansbury -- The Manchurian Candidate (the real one, not the 2004 version.)

ETA: Ooops, I see she was mentioned above! That'll teach me not to skim posts!

and....

Mrs. Danvers! -- Judith Anderson -- Rebecca (every sinister housekeeper since has been based on Mrs. Danvers!)

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#14 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:18 pm

OOOOH! Mrs. Danvers! Yes!

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#15 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:52 pm

I am in a distinct minority who think that The Manchurian Candidate was VASTLY over-rated.
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#16 Post by Buffacuse » Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:31 pm

Rebecca De Mornay's (sp?) character in Hand that Rocks the Cradle and the psycho girl from Single, White Female could be there...

...and I think Alex Forest is getting a bad rap--she was a nice lady, just a little misunderstood...

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#17 Post by dodgersteve182 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:24 pm

Jessica Walter (Evelyn) in Play Misty for Me.

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Re: Top Ten Screen Villainesses of All Time

#18 Post by danielh41 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:34 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
This is yet another example of a list compiled by people whose film memories go back only a very short time. If you are going to include someone from a James Bond film, the best Bond villainesses were the early ones, Lotte Lenya in From Russia with Love and Luciana Paluzzi in Thunderball. And how anyone could make a list like this and leave Angela Lansbury in Manchurian Candidate off it is a mystery.
How could they leave off Barbara Stanwyck's Phyllis Dietrichson in Double Indemnity?

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