Liberalism at its finest...

[danielh41]

I cam across this story of some rather disgusting behavior. Actions like this will only make those of us in favor of traditional of marriage hold even more firmly to that belief... http://www.rightmichigan.com/story/2008/11/10/13335/904

Michigan liberals attack Lansing congregation in the middle of Sunday worship

By Nick, Section News
Posted on Mon Nov 10, 2008 at 01:33:05 PM EST

This is what we're up against.
On Sunday morning, amidst worshiping congregants and following unifying prayers that our President-elect be granted wisdom as he prepares to lead our nation through difficult global, social and economic challenges, the Michigan left declared open war on peaceful church goers.

They did it with banners, chants, blasphemy, by storming the pulpit, by vandalizing the church facility, by potentially defiling the building with lewd, public, sex acts and by intentionally forcing physical confrontations with worshipers.

This didn't take place in some dystopian, post modern work of fiction and it didn't take place in San Francisco or Berkley. This was the scene at a Bible believing church in Lansing, Michigan.

Read on...

I returned home myself yesterday, from church and an afternoon watching football with the family, to find an email in my inbox from a friend in the Capitol City. Isn't surprising to see her name in the inbox as she and I often compare notes on our Sunday services.
Truth be told, I've done my best over the last year to start a friendly little rivalry with her. My church is better than hers, I insist, and I have been known to tell her why. Hers is superior to mine, she reminds me, and lists the reasons. (I admit I'm maybe a tad hyper-competitive, but my church really is the best in the world.) Yesterday's email began with an understated proclamation; "So church today was exciting..."

On Sunday, November 9, 2008 Michigan liberals sat peacefully through announcements, worship and prayer for the sick, our nation and our President-elect before staging a coordinated, disgusting and repulsive attack on worshipers and the broader concept of the church itself at Lansing's Mount Hope Church.

The lefties were a part of a liberal organization known as Bash Back Lansing and their collection of radical blogs, including one of the state's most widely read "mainstream" progressive blogs (and none which will receive a link on this website) called on "queers and trannies" from across the state and the region to converge on Lansing for what they refer to as an "action." While many of the members claim to be anarchists (they drove on roads, ate non-garden grown foods, printed materials on products created by government protected free markets, wore clothing, talk incessantly about "organization," etc etc etc) their broader goal is stated plainly on one of their lefty blogs.

"I can tell you that we are targeting a well-known anti-queer, anti-choice radical right wing establishment."

Mount Hope, for the record, is an evangelical, bible believing church whose members provide free 24 hour counseling, prayer lines, catastrophic care for families dealing with medical emergencies, support groups for men, women and children dealing with a wide variety of life's troubles, crisis intervention, marriage ministries, regular, organized volunteer work in and around the city, missions in dozens of countries across the globe, a construction ministry that has built over 100 churches, schools, orphanages and other projects all over the world and an in-depth prison ministry that reaches out, touches and helps the men and women the rest of society fears the most. They also teach respect for all human life and the Biblical sanctity of marriage as an institution between one man and one woman.

This is what Michigan liberals label a "radical right wing establishment," and over 30 of them showed up in force yesterday. Wearing secret-service style ear pieces and microphones they received the "go" from their ringleader and off they went.

Prayer had just finished when men and women stood up in pockets across the congregation, on the main floor and in the balcony. "Jesus was gay," they shouted among other profanities and blasphemies as they rushed the stage. Some forced their way through rows of women and kids to try to hang a profane banner from the balcony while others began tossing fliers into the air. Two women made their way to the pulpit and began to kiss.

Their other props? I'll let them tell you in their own words... from another of their liberal blogs:

"(A) video camera, a megaphone, noise makers, condoms, glitter by the bucket load, confetti, pink fabric...yeh."

The video camera they put to good use as they attempted to provoke a violent reaction. The image of the pink-clad folks above is one of theirs, stating in a picture worth more than a thousand words the goals of the Michigan left.

The "open minded" and "tolerant" liberals ran down the aisles and across the pews, hoping against hope to catch a "right winger" on tape daring to push back (none did). And just in case their camera missed the target, they had a reporter in tow. According to a source inside the church yesterday there was a "journalist" from the Lansing City Pulse along for the ride, tipped off about the action and more interested in getting a story than in preventing the vandalism, the violence and anti-Christian hatred being spewed by the lefties. We'll see what he files and what his editors see fit to print.

Props were readily on display too, though some of the condoms may have been put to even more nefarious use.

An hour after police and security had collected and removed who they thought were the last of the liberals, a volunteer security person discovered two more, hiding, together, in a public restroom. While their compatriots engaged in openly violent protest in front of everyone these two snuck away to potentially stage their own protest of sorts, and only by the grace of God did one of the hundreds of kids at the church not happen upon that particular restroom in those moments. Precisely how long they'd been there and precisely what they'd been up to we don't know.

The church's response? After things settled down, the blasphemy ended, the lewd props removed and the families safe from fear of additional men and women running into and past them the pastor took the stage and led the congregation in one more prayer... not for retribution, or divine justice or a celestial comeuppance (that's what I'd have prayed for) but instead that the troubled individuals who'd just defiled the Lord's house, so full of anger and hate, would know Jesus' love in their lives and God's peace that exceeds human understanding.

Yesterday morning defined the difference between a church of believers and Michigan liberals. It also illustrated in shocking, painful detail precisely what we're up against.

[nitrah55]

The group identifies itself as "anarchist," not "liberal."

Speaking as someone who identifies himself as both occasionally liberal and always Christian, I find the actions of Bash Back deplorable.

Aside from demonizing people you disagree with (like me) what's your point here?

[danielh41]

The point here is to show that many of these gay activists view the church and people of faith as a hate group when nothing could be further from the truth. I think the pastor's call to prayer as described at the end of the article speaks volumes.

Here's the same story from the Bash Back point of view, which sounds more like the hate group...
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?st ... 0151844185

[trevor_macfee]

This just makes me sad. After the past months (years?) of divisiveness leading up to last week's election (has it already been more than a week?!), this type of posting is the last thing anybody needs.

As a pastor, of course I deplore the disruption of worship services.

As someone who leans to the left politically, I also deplore the inference in this post that somehow the behavior of the folks in Lansing is representative of "liberals" in general.

The actions and people described in this post are no more typical of "liberals" than David Duke and his ilk are typical of "conservatives."

As long as we demonize those who disagree with us we will remain mired in hyperbolic name-calling and fear of the "other."

I lurk a lot more than I post, but I appreciate the diverse viewpoints on this board, and actually enjoy reading thoughtful posts that cause me to challenge and rethink my own points of view. But posts like this one, and the racially-tinged (to put it politely) picture of "Obama's family" that was posted earlier just cheapens the dialogue, and perhaps this place in general.

In my opinion, of course.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

This actions in Lansing were offensive, but Christians have suffered worse and prevailed.

[trevor_macfee]

The point here is to show that many of these gay activists view the church and people of faith as a hate group when nothing could be further from the truth. I think the pastor's call to prayer as described at the end of the article speaks volumes.

Here's the same story from the Bash Back point of view, which sounds more like the hate group...
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?st ... 0151844185

The problem is with your subject heading - "Liberalism at its finest." If your point is really to show that the protesters view the church as a hate group, what in the world does that have to do with "liberalism?" Perhaps in your mind that actually was your point, but the heading implies that this is some kind of commentary on liberals, not on a fringe anarchist hate-group.

[trevor_macfee]

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[franktangredi]

This just makes me sad. After the past months (years?) of divisiveness leading up to last week's election (has it already been more than a week?!), this type of posting is the last thing anybody needs.

As a pastor, of course I deplore the disruption of worship services.

As someone who leans to the left politically, I also deplore the inference in this post that somehow the behavior of the folks in Lansing is representative of "liberals" in general.

The actions and people described in this post are no more typical of "liberals" than David Duke and his ilk are typical of "conservatives."

As long as we demonize those who disagree with us we will remain mired in hyperbolic name-calling and fear of the "other."

I lurk a lot more than I post, but I appreciate the diverse viewpoints on this board, and actually enjoy reading thoughtful posts that cause me to challenge and rethink my own points of view. But posts like this one, and the racially-tinged (to put it politely) picture of "Obama's family" that was posted earlier just cheapens the dialogue, and perhaps this place in general.

In my opinion, of course.

Anyone who thinks that this group of hoodlums is representative of either traditional liberalism or the gay rights movement is equivalent to anyone who thinks the "Reverend" Fred Phelps is representative of Christianity or that the terrorists who bomb abortion clinics are representative of the right-to-life movement.

Ironically, the people who disrupted that church service are guilty of the same kind of thinking. In their minds, they were attacking the "Reverend" Fred Phelps. I don't intend that as an excuse -- there's no excuse, what they did was abhorrent -- just to illustrate what can happen when you demonize your opponents. All's fair in war, right?

A lot of us have tried to make that point, here and elsewhere. But you cannot reason with someone who firmly believes that they have a monopoly on being American, Christian, moral, and right. So I, for one, am not going to bother anymore. And that's a promise. And this time, I mean to keep the promise. I do. I really do.

(Until the next time somebody posts some nonsense that makes me want to spit pea soup while my head does a 360 degree turn.)