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OK...it's a legal game now- Philly up 2-1

#1 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:57 pm

The rain is pourin' down in Philadelphia right now.

Have to check...wonder if there's ever been a rain-shortened clinching game.

Just checked- there never has been a rain-shortened World Series game.
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Re: OK...it's a legal game now- Philly up 2-1

#2 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:04 pm

Jeemie wrote:The rain is pourin' down in Philadelphia right now.

Have to check...wonder if there's ever been a rain-shortened clinching game.

Just checked- there never has been a rain-shortened World Series game.

And I would have a hard time believing they would let it happen. They're gonna do everything they can to make sure it gets played in its entirety, as they should.....

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Re: OK...it's a legal game now- Philly up 2-1

#3 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:04 pm

The weather is just AWFUL right now- and it looks like it's beginning to affect the pitchers (Kazmir for sure- and hamels looked a little bothered the last two innings).

Of course...my back was to the TV as I typed this- I looked up...and it doesn't look so bad there now.

Still pretty cruddy where I live (about 45 minutes NW of Citizens Bank Park).
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#4 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:42 pm

Now they gotta keep going- tied 2-2.

Shame on MLB...it was well-known the weather was going to be like this. It's supposed to keep raining until early tomorrow evening...they should have postponed the thing before it even started.
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#5 Post by elwoodblues » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:52 pm

Since the game is now tied they are saying it might be suspended if they cannot resume tonight. I am pretty sure that would be a first for a World Series game in my memory. This, along with the umpiring in the Series, is not Bud Selig's finest hour, not that he has had many fine hours as the Commissioner.

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#6 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:54 pm

elwoodblues wrote:Since the game is now tied they are saying it might be suspended if they cannot resume tonight. I am pretty sure that would be a first for a World Series game in my memory. This, along with the umpiring in the Series, is not Bud Selig's finest hour, not that he has had many fine hours as the Commissioner.
It would have been worse had the game ended with a Phillies' Series victory on the strength of a 5-1/2 inning game.

And if the Phillies lose this game, there are going to be some PISSED OFF Phillies' fans that this game was started.
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#8 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:59 pm

I forgot- tomorrow's forecast is for a mix of rain and snow, and when it blows out, 55-mph winds.

They may not even be able to resume this game until WEDNESDAY.
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#9 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:22 pm

Game officially suspended until tomorrow.
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#10 Post by mellytu74 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:23 pm

Officially suspended.

No idea when the game will resume.

It must be played in Philadelphia.

The Rays have nowhere to sleep tonight because they checked out of their hotel and can't get back in because it's sold out.

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#11 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:34 pm

mellytu74 wrote:Officially suspended.

No idea when the game will resume.

It must be played in Philadelphia.

The Rays have nowhere to sleep tonight because they checked out of their hotel and can't get back in because it's sold out.
Holy hell!!!

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#12 Post by mellytu74 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:51 pm

The other problem was that, no matter, what, it would have been a suspended game.

Even if they had suspended the game at the end of the fifth inning, it still would have been a suspended game with the Phillies leading 2-1.

According to Selig, they would not have called the game.

I think they should have suspended it after the fifth inning because, by playing one-half inning, MLB gave the Rays a significant advantage.

Cole Hamels had to pitch in slop. BJ Upton got on base because the sloppy field. It's a routine ground ball to Jimmy Rollins earlier.

Now, whoever starts the bottom of the sixth for the Rays does it with a dry mound.

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#13 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:57 pm

mellytu74 wrote:The other problem was that, no matter, what, it would have been a suspended game.

Even if they had suspended the game at the end of the fifth inning, it still would have been a suspended game with the Phillies leading 2-1.

According to Selig, they would not have called the game.

I think they should have suspended it after the fifth inning because, by playing one-half inning, MLB gave the Rays a significant advantage.

Cole Hamels had to pitch in slop. BJ Upton got on base because the sloppy field. It's a routine ground ball to Jimmy Rollins earlier.

Now, whoever starts the bottom of the sixth for the Rays does it with a dry mound.

@$~@#%~$#^%$&!%&

Bud Selig is a putz.
I do not believe the rulebook would have allowed Selig to do that.

Here is the new rule:
Officially, Rule 4.12 (a) states: "A game shall become a suspended game that must be completed at a future date if the game is terminated ... (due to) weather, if a regulation game is called while an inning is in progress and before the inning is completed, and the visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead."
AFAIK, a game can only be suspended if the VISITORS are leading and an inning has not yet been completed.

They cannot suspend a game that the home team is leading.

But Selig is a putz.

PS You KNOW they wanted the Rays to score that run.
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#14 Post by mellytu74 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:01 pm

JC Romero just said on TV that the guys in the bullpen would really like to comment but they couldn't actually SEE anything from the bullpen.

The reason I said what I did about the suspended game was that's what Buddy Boy himself said.

But, since Buddy Boy is a putz.

Which we knew anyway.

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#15 Post by mellytu74 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:04 pm

The Rays found a hotel in Wilmington.

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#16 Post by Jeemie » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:05 pm

It never comes easy for Philly.

Someone better go down to the Comcast Tower to make sure that William Penn figurine they stuck up there (so Billy can once again be the highest point in Center City) hasn't been blown down by the wind and rain.
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#17 Post by ontellen » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:56 pm

This is just the kind of shit my Dad would have been royally pissed off at. This is what happens when you extend the damn season into the later fall. It's almost November and it's going to be cold in most of the MLB cities.

Too bad they couldn't play in the Skydome - nice and warm and dry.

The tying of the game was just what they wanted. How CONVENIENT. Hope the Phillies take it tomorrow - they deserve it after tonight.

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#18 Post by kayrharris » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:13 pm

Jeemie wrote:Now they gotta keep going- tied 2-2.

Shame on MLB...it was well-known the weather was going to be like this. It's supposed to keep raining until early tomorrow evening...they should have postponed the thing before it even started.

Whoever it was that was interviewed after the game was suspended (I honestly don't know - maybe the BB commissioner) said all the weather reports said slight possibility of rain with no more than 1/10".

You do know, it's Rexer's fault!!
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#19 Post by etaoin22 » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:38 am

Tonight was a dismal farce of a spectacle, and yet no one in MLB will ever say so. Outdoors, an hour and a half later than games begin in the season, lasting routinely close to or past midnight, end of October in the Northeast, and owing to TV playing in all weather. Even Bowie Kuhn in his shirtsleeves is spinning at 20 mHz. And accordingly... it was so (((UU(&Y*T(* evident they were waiting for a tie, so they could suspend the game -- they ought to put it in the rules officially that all innings count in post-season under all circumstances and you have to play 9, eventually; other sports change game rules for playoffs -- most notably the unlimited overtime for the Stanley Cup.

Otherwise, or for that matter not otherwise as well, you might as well find a neutral domed or warm-weather site, like for the Super Bowl, or build a World Series stadium at Disney World, or play the Series in Shanghai for the benefit of the balance of foreign trade.

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#20 Post by Jeemie » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:42 am

kayrharris wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Now they gotta keep going- tied 2-2.

Shame on MLB...it was well-known the weather was going to be like this. It's supposed to keep raining until early tomorrow evening...they should have postponed the thing before it even started.

Whoever it was that was interviewed after the game was suspended (I honestly don't know - maybe the BB commissioner) said all the weather reports said slight possibility of rain with no more than 1/10".

You do know, it's Rexer's fault!!
They were lying to save face. That was the original forecast, but it moved up quicker than expected. But this change occurred a couple of HOURS before game time...plenty of time to postpone the game.

I know- I live here, and the rain started at ~5:00.
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#21 Post by littlebeast13 » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:05 am

Jeemie wrote:AFAIK, a game can only be suspended if the VISITORS are leading and an inning has not yet been completed.

They cannot suspend a game that the home team is leading.

But Selig is a putz.

PS You KNOW they wanted the Rays to score that run.

Of course they did. For once, MLB actually got lucky (Well, OK, they were saved the embarrassment of a position player pitching in the All Star Game, so now they're 2-2 this year).

There is NO FRIGGIN' WAY you can not play a World Series game, in particular the potential Series clincher, to anything but its entirety. I can't believe the rainout rules would even exist in the postseason. If they do, they shouldn't....

I agree that the game should have never even been started. Quit worrying about how it might mess up the damn TV schedule, and play the games when you can.....

It wasn't raining in Philly during the afternoon, was it.......?

And of course Bud Selig is a putz. Why else would he have an MM on this Bored...... :P

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#22 Post by Jeemie » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:16 am

littlebeast13 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:AFAIK, a game can only be suspended if the VISITORS are leading and an inning has not yet been completed.

They cannot suspend a game that the home team is leading.

But Selig is a putz.

PS You KNOW they wanted the Rays to score that run.

Of course they did. For once, MLB actually got lucky (Well, OK, they were saved the embarrassment of a position player pitching in the All Star Game, so now they're 2-2 this year).

There is NO FRIGGIN' WAY you can not play a World Series game, in particular the potential Series clincher, to anything but its entirety. I can't believe the rainout rules would even exist in the postseason. If they do, they shouldn't....

I agree that the game should have never even been started. Quit worrying about how it might mess up the damn TV schedule, and play the games when you can.....

It wasn't raining in Philly during the afternoon, was it.......?

And of course Bud Selig is a putz. Why else would he have an MM on this Bored...... :P

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They could have played the game in the afternoon....and now, the way the forecast is, they may not have a window to play the game until Thursday (so maybe Hamels can come back on short rest if that happens and there's a game 7).

But Selig sold out to TV...and only made himself look dumber by saying he had the players' safety in mind when he suspended it.

Sorry, Bud, but you're an ass. The field was a swamp by the late 4th inning, and a lake by the 6th.

And let me tell you- Philly fans and players are LIVID right now. Charlie Manuel risked a fine by refusing to have a press conference last night. An unnamed pitcher (anyone who's a Philly fan or follows baseball will know who) said "That (bleeping) idiot. I wouldn't let him supervise one of my s**its. He doesn't have a clue. He doesn't have a bleeping clue".

If somehow the Phillies go on to lose this Series, I might think about going out of town for a few days.
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#23 Post by Larry Bud Selig » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:35 am

Go right on ahead and call me a putz, an ass, someone who shouldn't even watch over someone taking a sh*t (I didn't know David FatAss Wells got traded to the Phillies!). It hasn't all been a cakewalk in my neverending effort to lead this great Renaissance of Major League Baseball. Right now I have a dozen Fox executives on my back bitching about the TV ratings and how I can ensure that two teams that actually matter make it to the World Series next year. THAT is something I am concerned about, not a bunch of whining from people who enjoy booing mall Santas. Why in the hell did Manny not get the damn Dodgers into the Series? What is it, 80 and sunny in LA today?

Next time, Philly Phaithful, build a damn dome stadium. Look at my treasure chest in Milwaukee. A lot of taxpayer dollars and years of selling lemons made sure that if Milwuakee ever gets to host the November Classic, we won't have to put up with that slop Mother Nature enjoys dumping on places like Philadelphia....

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#24 Post by Jeemie » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:41 am

I didn't know David FatAss Wells got traded to the Phillies!
He did...and he changed his name to Brett Myers.

(Edited Myers' name because I flashed back to the early 90s. WHEW!)
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#25 Post by Appa23 » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:15 am

Jeemie, I have to disagree with your assessment that the Commissioner could not suspend the game after 5 innings, based on the rulebook. He is the Commissioner. He is not constrained by the rulebook. It is like saying that the Supreme Court can't decide a case in a certain way because of previous precedent.

Everyone knew that there is no way that a World Series game, let alone the clinching game, is called before a full game is played.

I have heard that Selig will make it the official rule. In fact, I imagine that he will state that all playoff games must be played to their completion (no less than 9 innings).

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