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Weekend QoD: October 19: Answers & Points

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:38 am
by wintergreen48
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1. The Englishman who first developed modern calculus was Isaac Newton.
The German also ran who developed modern calculus was Gottfried Liebniz.

2. The guy who actually got the telephone patent was Alexander Graham Bell.
The guy who actually filed first but ultimately lost the patent hunt was Elisha Gray

3. The U.S. Army officer who almost won the pentathlon was George S. Patton.
The guy who actually did win that pentathlon was Jim Thorpe.
The general who was the U.S. Army Officer’s subordinate before he was his superior officer was Omar Bradley.

4. The first runner up in the race to the South Pole was Robert F. Scott.
The guy who actually made it to the South Pole first was Roald Amundsen.

Some people mentioned Admiral Byrd. He actually camped out there for a while, but arrived decades after the other two.

5. The first guy to come up with the theory of natural selection was Charles Darwin.
The second guy to come up with the theory of natural selection was Alfred Wallace.
KT got the order wrong, but he explained the reason for his confusion, and since I like him I gave him the point.

The U.S. President who was born the same day as the first guy to come up with the theory of natural selection was Abraham Lincoln.


Points

jarnon = 6
a1mamacat = 3
Marley = 9
KillerTomato = 8
kroxquo = 7
NellyLunatic = 10
jbillygirl = 7
frogman = 10
jsuchard = 9
weyoun = 10
Confessor = 9
VADame = 8
AndrewJackson = 11
plasticene = 6
tanstaafl = 9
LynPayne = 11

Re: Weekend QoD: October 19: Answers & Points

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:48 pm
by kroxquo
wintergreen48 wrote:Also Rans

3. The U.S. Army officer who almost won the pentathlon was George S. Patton.
The guy who actually did win that pentathlon was Jim Thorpe.
The general who was the U.S. Army Officer’s subordinate before he was his superior officer was Omar Bradley.
Wintergreen I hate to disagree with you when you put in so much work, but Patton and Thorpe competed in two different events. Patton competed in modern pentathlon which is still competed and involves shooting, fencing, swimming, running and equestrian. Thorpe competed in the pentathlon - which is no longer an event. Wikipedia says this about pentathlon:

The pentathlon (as opposed to the modern pentathlon) was an athletic event in the Olympic Games and other Panhellenic Games of Ancient Greece. The name derives from Greek words for "five competitions." The five events were stadion (a short foot race), wrestling, which were also held as separate events, and the long jump, javelin throw, and discus throw, which were not held as separate events then. Pentathletes were considered to be among the most skilled athletes, and their training was often part of military service—each of the five events was thought to be useful in battle.

Re: Weekend QoD: October 19: Answers & Points

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:35 pm
by KillerTomato
wintergreen48 wrote:Also Rans
2. The guy who actually got the telephone patent was Alexander Graham Bell.
The guy who actually filed first but ultimately lost the patent hunt was Elisha Gray

Well, that's what I get for listening to Joe Mantegna in Godfather 3. Meucci must have been before BOTH of these guys.


wintergreen48 wrote:5. The first guy to come up with the theory of natural selection was Charles Darwin.
The second guy to come up with the theory of natural selection was Alfred Wallace.
KT got the order wrong, but he explained the reason for his confusion, and since I like him I gave him the point.

Well, you never were known for your taste (with one exception that I know of). But I thank you anyway. ;-)

Re: Weekend QoD: October 19: Answers & Points

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:47 pm
by wintergreen48
kroxquo wrote:
wintergreen48 wrote:Also Rans

3. The U.S. Army officer who almost won the pentathlon was George S. Patton.
The guy who actually did win that pentathlon was Jim Thorpe.
The general who was the U.S. Army Officer’s subordinate before he was his superior officer was Omar Bradley.
Wintergreen I hate to disagree with you when you put in so much work, but Patton and Thorpe competed in two different events. Patton competed in modern pentathlon which is still competed and involves shooting, fencing, swimming, running and equestrian. Thorpe competed in the pentathlon - which is no longer an event. Wikipedia says this about pentathlon:

The pentathlon (as opposed to the modern pentathlon) was an athletic event in the Olympic Games and other Panhellenic Games of Ancient Greece. The name derives from Greek words for "five competitions." The five events were stadion (a short foot race), wrestling, which were also held as separate events, and the long jump, javelin throw, and discus throw, which were not held as separate events then. Pentathletes were considered to be among the most skilled athletes, and their training was often part of military service—each of the five events was thought to be useful in battle.

ooopsie.

Who the heck knew? I have gone my entire life thinking that there was one pentathlon in the 1912 Olympics, and that Patton and Thorpe faced each other in it. This vexes me, it vexes me greatly indeed. Someone is going to receive a very sternly worded letter about this, a very sternly worded letter indeed...

Re: Weekend QoD: October 19: Answers & Points

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:57 am
by tanstaafl2
wintergreen48 wrote:Also Rans


3. The U.S. Army officer who almost won the pentathlon was George S. Patton.
The guy who actually did win that pentathlon was Jim Thorpe.
The general who was the U.S. Army Officer’s subordinate before he was his superior officer was Omar Bradley.
Hmm, I suppose it could depend on how one defines "subordinate". While Bradley is certainly correct (and didn't even occur to me at the time although it certainly should have!), and perhaps "more" correct since he served directly under Pattons command at one time before being promoted ahead of him and serving as his immediate superior, it is also true that Patton was for most of their careers in the Army Eisenhower's superior officer (and thus Eisenhower was his subordinate). Eisenhower did not pass Patton in rank until 1942 during his rather remarkable rapid ascension from Colonel in 1941 to 4 star General in 1943, less than 18 months later.