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Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:32 am
by marrymeflyfree
Obama.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:11 am
by gotribego26
Yeah, but SSS tells me Obama is not up to the job.

What does Powell know that SSS doesn't.


Powell's description of the GOP is dead on, IMHO.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:13 am
by silverscreenselect
gotribego26 wrote:Yeah, but SSS tells me Obama is not up to the job.

What does Powell know that SSS doesn't.


Powell's description of the GOP is dead on, IMHO.
Powell showed us just where the WMD were in Iraq. And he felt George W. Bush was up to the job.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:38 am
by marrymeflyfree
silverscreenselect wrote: Powell showed us just where the WMD were in Iraq. And he felt George W. Bush was up to the job.
He did. And he left the administration pretty speedily once he realized that he was not.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:02 am
by gotribego26
silverscreenselect wrote: Powell showed us just where the WMD were in Iraq.
Good thing you've never been wrong in front of a national TV audience.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:15 pm
by Tocqueville3
marrymeflyfree wrote:Obama.

Yes, and a long time ago Joe Lieberman endorsed John McCain.


What's your point?

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:48 pm
by Jeemie
This was the worst-kept secret since the cameras and news crews were there to greet the troops coming ashore in Somalia.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:53 pm
by BackInTex
So a black Democrat endorses a black Democrat. I'm shocked!

What? You say Colin Powell is not a Democrat? Right

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:54 pm
by Hello, Mini!
Tocqueville3 wrote:
marrymeflyfree wrote:Obama.

Yes, and a long time ago Joe Lieberman endorsed John McCain.


What's your point?
The point is it happened today. That made it news, and relevant.

No surprise here, but relevant....

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:39 pm
by Weyoun
If Colin's conscience is eating at him that much, perhaps he should apologize to those millions of Iraqis.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:35 pm
by NellyLunatic1980
BackInTex wrote:So a black Democrat endorses a black Democrat. I'm shocked!

What? You say Colin Powell is not a Democrat? Right
I'm not exactly sure what Colin Powell is.

He spoke at the Democratic National Convention one year (I can't remember if it was 1988 or 1992).

In the summer of 2007, he donated the legal maximum amount to John McCain.

Unless you've actually looked into his personal files and seen his voter registration, you have no proof of what political party he is.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:12 pm
by Flybrick
Bandwagon.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:41 pm
by BackInTex
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:So a black Democrat endorses a black Democrat. I'm shocked!

What? You say Colin Powell is not a Democrat? Right
I'm not exactly sure what Colin Powell is.

He spoke at the Democratic National Convention one year (I can't remember if it was 1988 or 1992).

In the summer of 2007, he donated the legal maximum amount to John McCain.

Unless you've actually looked into his personal files and seen his voter registration, you have no proof of what political party he is.
Voter registration doesn't say what a person is, just what they registerd as. I've seen enough to know what he is. He is a Democrat. So is McCain. That is why Powell gave him money.

Obama is not a Democrat. Though he is on their ticket.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:31 pm
by franktangredi
Don't we all know...

... that every person here who expressed an opinion of Powell based on this endorsement, would have expressed the opposite opinion of him if the endorsement had gone the other way?

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:37 pm
by a1mamacat
franktangredi wrote:Don't we all know...

... that every person here who expressed an opinion of Powell based on this endorsement, would have expressed the opposite opinion of him if the endorsement had gone the other way?


GASP

Shirley you Gest. Partisanship? HERE?????

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:01 pm
by Weyoun
franktangredi wrote:Don't we all know...

... that every person here who expressed an opinion of Powell based on this endorsement, would have expressed the opposite opinion of him if the endorsement had gone the other way?
Nah, I thought Powell was a piece of crap for some time - he hopelessly supported the administration on Iraq, and indeed I trusted them in large part because of his actions. I'm honestly surprised Obama would WANT his backing, given that history.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:04 pm
by clem21
a1mamacat wrote:
franktangredi wrote:Don't we all know...

... that every person here who expressed an opinion of Powell based on this endorsement, would have expressed the opposite opinion of him if the endorsement had gone the other way?


GASP

Shirley you Gest. Partisanship? HERE?????
No he doesn't...and don't call him Shirley.


Sorry couldn't resist.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:57 am
by danielh41
I can't blame him for not supporting McCain who is not a real conservative (although I never thought of Powell as a conservative either). I wonder how much pressure was put on Powell to give that Obama endorsment.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:59 am
by gsabc
danielh41 wrote:I can't blame him for not supporting McCain who is not a real conservative (although I never thought of Powell as a conservative either). I wonder how much pressure was put on Powell to give that Obama endorsment.
I'm curious as to what pressure you think would be effective. He could just as easily disappeared a la Schwarzkopf.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:03 pm
by Bixby17
BackInTex wrote:So a black Democrat endorses a black Democrat. I'm shocked!

What? You say Colin Powell is not a Democrat? Right

Yes, and the folks from the newspaper in Bryan/College Station, Texas are black democrats too, I guess, because they endorsed Obama. They are probably palling around with unrepentant terrorists, are Muslim extremists and are socialism practitioners. Perhaps we should investigate whether they are pro-American or anti-American First time they have ever endorsed a Democrat running for prez. http://www.theeagle.com/editorial/101908-President
In the past 50 years, The Eagle has never recommended a Democrat for president. We made no recommendations in 1960 and 1964 -- when Texas' own Lyndon B. Johnson was on the Democratic ticket -- nor did we in 1968 -- although we did praise Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey's position on the Vietnam War. We did not in 1976 and 1980. In 1972, The Eagle recommend Richard Nixon, in 1984, Ronald Reagan. We recommended George H.W. Bush in 1988 and 1992 and his son in 2000. We recommended Bob Dole in 1996.

Four years ago, the Editorial Board couldn't recommend George W. Bush for a second term, but we also couldn't recommend Sen. John Kerry either, so we made no choice.

This year is different, in large part because of the very difficult challenges facing this nation after eight years of a failed Bush administration. We are faced with a choice between Sen. John McCain, who claims to be an agent of change but promotes the policies of the past, and Sen. Barack Obama, who also wears the change mantle, but offers a vision for the future, even if he has yet to fully explain how he would carry out that vision if elected president in little more than two weeks.

Every 20 or 30 years or so, a leader comes along who understands that change is necessary if the country is to survive and thrive. Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the 20th century and his cousin Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan -- these leaders have inspired us to rise to our better nature, to reach out to be the country we can be and, more important, must be.

Barack Obama is such a leader. He doesn't have all the answers, to be sure, but at least he is asking the right questions. While we would like more specificity on his plans as president, we are confident that he can lead us ever forward, casting aside the doubts and fears of recent years.
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Also of great concern is McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate. Like Obama, she has little experience in governing, but unlike the Illinois senator, she is a candidate of little intellectual curiosity who appears to be hopelessly unready to be president. The fact that people are confused by the difference between Palin and comedian Tina Fey's caustic impersonation is clear evidence that Palin should not be, as they say, a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:15 pm
by silverscreenselect
Bixby17 wrote: Every 20 or 30 years or so, a leader comes along who understands that change is necessary if the country is to survive and thrive. Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the 20th century and his cousin Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan -- these leaders have inspired us to rise to our better nature, to reach out to be the country we can be and, more important, must be.

Barack Obama is such a leader. He doesn't have all the answers, to be sure, but at least he is asking the right questions. While we would like more specificity on his plans as president, we are confident that he can lead us ever forward, casting aside the doubts and fears of recent years.
Translation: You don't need experience, good character, good judgment, or a well thought out platform as long as you can "inspire people to rise to their better nature." Apparently, the ability to give a great speech is more important than anything else.

Sadly, the world's experience with charismatic leaders of questionable background who "understand that change is necessary if the country is to survive and thrive" and "inspire us to reach out to be the country we can be and, more important, must be" and who can "lead us ever forward, casting aside the doubts and fears of recent years" .... has not been all that good.

I really wonder if editorial boards actually read the crap like this that they are throwing out there and realize how naive and dangerous it is. I'd love to read some of the editorials of newspapers in Germany in the early 1930's to see if there are similarly worded endorsements.

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:11 pm
by ne1410s
danh:
I wonder how much pressure was put on Powell to give that Obama endorsment.
I doubt if his accountant pressured him, as Powell makes well north of 250K per year. Paying more taxes should be a patriotic duty, especially during times of "war". Who does that ignorant twit governor from Alaska think is going to pay for her son's up-armored humvee, ammo, or body armor?

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:15 pm
by Bob78164
ne1410s wrote:Who does that ignorant twit governor from Alaska think is going to pay for her son's up-armored humvee, ammo, or body armor?
Our grandkids. --Bob

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:01 am
by marrymeflyfree
Bob78164 wrote:
ne1410s wrote:Who does that ignorant twit governor from Alaska think is going to pay for her son's up-armored humvee, ammo, or body armor?
Our grandkids. --Bob
Rec!

Re: Colin Powell endorses...

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:24 am
by NellyLunatic1980
Bob78164 wrote:
ne1410s wrote:Who does that ignorant twit governor from Alaska think is going to pay for her son's up-armored humvee, ammo, or body armor?
Our grandkids. --Bob
Won't somebody please think of the children?