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...do you think Obama will bring up David Ifshin?

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain- ... hin/32880/

Campus radical, did broadcasts for Radio Hanoi which were pumped into McCain's cell. Years later, McCain and Ifshin worked together to normalize US relations with Vietnam.

He could, but it would be like bringing up John Hagee if Jeremiah Wright was mentioned.

nitrah55 wrote:...do you think Obama will bring up David Ifshin?

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain- ... hin/32880/

Campus radical, did broadcasts for Radio Hanoi which were pumped into McCain's cell. Years later, McCain and Ifshin worked together to normalize US relations with Vietnam.

The difference is that Ifshin is apologetic about his earlier activities (which didn't involve bombing innocent people). Ayers has said that his group didn't do enough bombings, etc.

danielh41 wrote:

nitrah55 wrote:...do you think Obama will bring up David Ifshin?

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain- ... hin/32880/

Campus radical, did broadcasts for Radio Hanoi which were pumped into McCain's cell. Years later, McCain and Ifshin worked together to normalize US relations with Vietnam.

The difference is that Ifshin is apologetic about his earlier activities (which didn't involve bombing innocent people). Ayers has said that his group didn't do enough bombings, etc.

So, if Ayers apologised for being involved with a group that built bombs that killed innocent people, you're ok with him?

nitrah55 wrote:

danielh41 wrote:

nitrah55 wrote:...do you think Obama will bring up David Ifshin?

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain- ... hin/32880/

Campus radical, did broadcasts for Radio Hanoi which were pumped into McCain's cell. Years later, McCain and Ifshin worked together to normalize US relations with Vietnam.

The difference is that Ifshin is apologetic about his earlier activities (which didn't involve bombing innocent people). Ayers has said that his group didn't do enough bombings, etc.

So, if Ayers apologised for being involved with a group that built bombs that killed innocent people, you're ok with him?

You forgot Rule #1: It's only OK if you're a Republican. Pay no attention to the fact that the Chicago Annenberg Project had mostly Republicans on its board and its founder, Lenore Annenberg, is a top McCain supporter.

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:

nitrah55 wrote:

danielh41 wrote: The difference is that Ifshin is apologetic about his earlier activities (which didn't involve bombing innocent people). Ayers has said that his group didn't do enough bombings, etc.

So, if Ayers apologised for being involved with a group that built bombs that killed innocent people, you're ok with him?

You forgot Rule #1: It's only OK if you're a Republican. Pay no attention to the fact that the Chicago Annenberg Project had mostly Republicans on its board and its founder, Lenore Annenberg, is a top McCain supporter.

No one is saying otherwise. They're saying Obama got the job because of his ties to Ayers, who was on the board, and once he got the job he seems to have done an unremarkable job. But it wasn't his money he was spending, so it's ok!

nitrah55 wrote:...do you think Obama will bring up David Ifshin?

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain- ... hin/32880/

Campus radical, did broadcasts for Radio Hanoi which were pumped into McCain's cell. Years later, McCain and Ifshin worked together to normalize US relations with Vietnam.

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain- ... hin/32880/

An interesting speech by McCain.

I think the Ifshin thing appears to be a little different than Ayres because he did, indeed, apologize/repent/whatever you want to call it and felt he'd made a mistake. Ayers is unrepentantly sort of anti-American up to this day (Fugitive Days) and an educational trainwreck as well. And he recruited Obama for the Annenberg Challenge. During all those years they had little to no contact? Hmmm.
I don't think he'd (Ayers) would be your best bet as a friend in a bar fight.
Well, maybe he'd just knock everybody off.