If you're an Obama fan

[PlacentiaSoccerMom]

A recent Pew survey showed that nearly 1/4 of Hillary's voters (including yours truly) will not vote for Obama in the general election. All those won't necessarily go to McCain, since a lot will either sit the election out, vote for a third party or even write in Hillary's name. The point is, he's not getting those votes. Less than 10% of Obama's supporters say they wouldn't vote for Hillary in the general election.

I can't imagine myself voting for Obama. I don't know that I would vote for McCain either, so it will probably be a third party vote for me.

[TheConfessor]

I find it amusing that someone who won a million dollars on a game show can't look back a few posts to check his facts, or maybe can't remember details beyone a couple posts.

Sadly, winning the top prize on a game show does not automatically convey brilliance or infallibility. Just ask Richard Hatch.

I never mentioned anything about a flag pin.

You had me worried about my mental faculties for a minute. Fortunately, I went back and checked. You wrote that I wouldn't be a good candidate for "POTUS" because I rarely wear a flag pin, recite the Pledge of Allegiance, or place my hand over my heart during the national anthem. If you hadn't written that, I wouldn't have written my reply.

I don't have one. I don't care if Obama has one. I'm not about what you wear.

Great! Your clarification gives us one more thing we can agree on.

I've never defaced a Texas flag. I modified a few 1s and 0s in a data file that when presented on a computer screen has some resemblance to a flag, but that is it.

That's an interesting argument. Until now, I've always thought that the most famous work of Andres Serrano was pretty offensive. And yet, he never defaced his actual subject. He only defaced an object that had some resemblance to the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andres_Serrano

I think I'll try harder to avoid the ugly political threads on this board. For the record, I don't know who I'll vote for in November. A lot can happen between now and then. I really dislike dogmatic strident partisanship, regardless of the source. I doubt that any minds will be changed, except that whoever's supporters are most annoying may push some voters over to the other side.

[Sir_Galahad]

.... These people listen to Fox News and right wing radio and will not be thrilled by statements by Rev. Wright, no matter how much Obama tries to spin them away or the mainstream media is content to let them slide. Fox News won't let them slide once Obama is the nominee.

Well someone has to do it. You won't see this on CNN, NBC or printed in any of the liberal rags like the NY Times. All, who would rather just sweep it under the rug as unimportant as they do with every other relevant liberal news story that doesn't fit their agenda.

[silverscreenselect]

Based on what I'm hearing, there has been a big difference between public reaction to Wright's statements and Obama's attempts to distance himself from them and the reaction to all the "racist" statements Hillary and her supporters made earlier in the campaign.

Although a lot of people have said they were upset about Hillary's statements, it seems to me that a lot of that has been posturing for the record, the same way that wrestlers claim to be furious at each other in order to hype the big match.

There is a genuine anger and disgust about Wright's statements, and it's not just right wingers looking for a reason to manufacture controversy. People are upset about this and it's not going to go away any time soon.

Obama's core supporters are having a tough time accepting this and I've even seen some liberal blogs trying to compare Wright's statements to some made by Abe Lincoln and MLK and others but that is not going to wash. And the more Obama claims not to have known (when it's becoming increasingly obvious he knew full well what was going on all along and kept it quiet until the lid blew off in public) the more he comes across as just another opportunistic politician.

And once people get upset about this, then it's much easier to tie the other stuff about the pledge of allegience and Michelle Obama's comments into one package. Look at youtube and do a search for Obama Wright and you will find a substantial number of videos up there already.

One Macaca statement did in George Allen. Wright has a number of ugly statements, and there is some evidence, although not conclusive proof yet, that Obama was in the audience for at least some of Wright's uglier sermons.

[nitrah55]

Where was all this outrage when Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said that the 9/11 attacks were brought on by America's behavior?

And, here's an example of a preacher saying the overthrow of the US government could be a good thing, and getting applauded by Republicans:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-sch ... 91774.html

Barack, say this: "I don't have to agree with everything my pastor and friend says, anymore than John Kennedy had to agree with everything the Pope says."

[wbtravis007]

Rush played a song cut by that guy who does his parodies -- Obama singing a revised version of Three Dog Night's "Joy to the World" (Jerimiah was a Bullfrog).

I was laughing my ass off. The guy really has Obama down. Especially his intonations.

Y'all should try to hear it.

[wintergreen48]

One thing in this thread that really kills me is the irony of SSS-- of all people-- having his panties in a knot, upset that the 'mainstream media' is (are?) giving a very liberal candidate a pass, while carefully scrutinizing and slamming his (marginally) more conservative opponent for every conceivable misstep.

It's almost like SSS-- of all people-- is annoyed that the 'mainstream media' has (have?), well, a liberal bias...

[Ritterskoop]

Where was all this outrage when Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said that the 9/11 attacks were brought on by America's behavior?

I was mad.



Still am now, when Fred Phelps says U.S. soldiers deserve to die because our nation allows homosexuality, which makes no sense but it keeps him going.

Sometimes people get more interested in being right than in getting the work done.