The poorly run Obama Campaign

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SportsFan68 · #51 Post by **SportsFan68** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:21 pm

silvercamaro wrote:Please accept my apologies. In the photos linked to the Denver Post blog linked by Cal, I see that some of the flags were being stored in clear, not green, trash bags.

I wonder how the campaign intended to reuse the empty water bottles, name tags and crumpled paper that were being stored with the flags?

I can say that the Green Team was putting all recyclables/reusables in the same bags at all the venues for sorting later. That probably isn't right in this case because of the name tags, but the water bottles and crumpled paper fit with how they'd been doing it earlier in the week.

I thought it was a little odd to put plastic and paper together, but a Green Teamer assured me it was supposed to work that way.

TheConfessor · #52 Post by **TheConfessor** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:21 pm

I heard that all of the leftover flags were saved in protective bags so they could be wrapped around New Testaments and used as Sunday newspaper inserts. It's a shame that someone removed the flags, and most subscribers received only the Good News, but not Old Glory.

silverscreenselect · #53 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:44 pm

ne1410s wrote:sss:
Instead of organizing anything, Obama spent the time sucking up to Bill Ayers and others and getting the wheels in motion for his political career.
"Someone stole my shoes. I'm going to amputate my legs."

And Bless your heart...

The proper quote should be:

"Someone stole my shoes. I'm not going to vote for him no matter how much he claims he agrees with me on the issues."

wbtravis007 · #54 Post by **wbtravis007** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:51 pm

silvercamaro wrote:In the interests of bi-partisan friendship, I would like to suggest that a statement be issued by someone with a name, whether it be Obama himself, his campaign manager, or a Colorado official that was directly involved with the convention arrangements:

"We screwed up, and we feel terrible about it. Nobody meant for it to happen, but in all of the confusion and chaos that accompany any political convention, several thousand flags were put into garbage bags during the post-convention clean-up. They were stored in the garbage bags because that is what we had readily available, and, frankly, everybody was tired and wanted to go home. We meant to reuse those flags, but they never made it to the trucks that would have taken them to another venue where they would have been waved proudly. Instead, the bags with the flags were left uncomfortably close to the the trash dumpsters. I can't blame anybody for misunderstanding our intentions. I am greatly annoyed with whoever accused others of stealing those flags from storage, because I recognize that we inadvertantly left ourselves open to that misunderstanding. Unfortunately, I have no way to discipline that campaign volunteer, whoever he or she may be, because the accuser misspoke anonymously. I apologize to all those people who were accused of theft."

Now that may not be the whole truth, either, but it would permit some face-saving for the campaign while maintaining that the party supports honesty in all things.

It's not about whatever was intended for the flags, it's the apparent lie, which nobody seems to accept except the True Believers.

I know nothing about any of this except what I've read here just now, without checking the links.

For what it's worth, I give silver-c a resounding REC! here.

wbtravis007 · #55 Post by **wbtravis007** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:55 pm

TheConfessor wrote:I heard that all of the leftover flags were saved in protective bags so they could be wrapped around New Testaments and used as Sunday newspaper inserts. It's a shame that someone removed the flags, and most subscribers received only the Good News, but not Old Glory.

This gets a big-time ICM! And a Double-Rec (whatever that is).

Very rich.

wbtravis007 · #56 Post by **wbtravis007** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:01 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
ne1410s wrote:sss:
Instead of organizing anything, Obama spent the time sucking up to Bill Ayers and others and getting the wheels in motion for his political career.
"Someone stole my shoes. I'm going to amputate my legs."

And Bless your heart...
The proper quote should be:

"Someone stole my shoes. I'm not going to vote for him no matter how much he claims he agrees with me on the issues."

Or: "Someone stole my shoes. I'll pout about it for as long as I want to!"

earendel · #57 Post by **earendel** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:45 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage.
I wondered what the story of your avatar was, tmittss.

Did anyone check to see where all those US flags were manufactured?

I believe suitguy's avatar is a polar bear in the Tokyo Zoo. I heard this morning that in order to conserve water the bears' pool wasn't being cleaned as often; the result was algae that got onto the bears' fur and is very difficult to wash out. (Source: NPR)

peacock2121 · #58 Post by **peacock2121** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:50 am

TheConfessor wrote:I heard that all of the leftover flags were saved in protective bags so they could be wrapped around New Testaments and used as Sunday newspaper inserts. It's a shame that someone removed the flags, and most subscribers received only the Good News, but not Old Glory.

Okay - this was funny, so.... maybe I lightened up a bit.

themanintheseersuckersuit · #59 Post by **themanintheseersuckersuit** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:17 am

I don't buy the "stored" spin. When we hear from the person who was supposed to pick up the flags, and they explain why the flags were there for a week, I will acknowledge my mistake.

As someone pointed out if you leave anything around after a trade show, it gonna get dumped.

And this gets under my skin a bit. I can't stand to see a flag on the ground. I've picked up a lot of those broken off car flags lying along the road. When they find me run over along the road, look for the flag.

peacock2121 · #60 Post by **peacock2121** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:19 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:I don't buy the "stored" spin. When we hear from the person who was supposed to pick up the flags, and they explain why the flags were there for a week, I will acknowledge my mistake.

As someone pointed out if you leave anything around after a trade show, it gonna get dumped.

And this gets under my skin a bit. I can't stand to see a flag on the ground. I've picked up a lot of those broken off car flags lying along the road. When they find me run over along the road, look for the flag.

Is 'gets under my skin' southern for I am annoyed?

themanintheseersuckersuit · #61 Post by **themanintheseersuckersuit** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:23 am

peacock2121 wrote:
Is 'gets under my skin' southern for I am annoyed?

Yes ma'am

peacock2121 · #62 Post by **peacock2121** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:26 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:
Is 'gets under my skin' southern for I am annoyed?
Yes ma'am

I like it!

I am annopyed by it as well.