Game #115: False Starts

[wintergreen48]

I don't know if it means anything, but a lot of these involve 'wrong' first names: a lot of the people are known by either a nickname (Red Barber, Hap Arnold, etc.) or are known by a real name but one that is not their true 'first' name (Paul McCartney is actually James; Eleanor Roosevelt is actually Anna). Could the 'False Start' be a reference to 'false' first names, somehow?

Not that it actually leads to anything, but it's just a thought.

[NellyLunatic1980]

65. This soprano made her La Scala debut in 1946 under the direction of Toscanini, who declared that she had “the voice of an angel.”
It is indeed Renata Tebaldi.

73. This Victorian cleric helped shape the modern concept of a “liberal education.”
Let's try Frederic William Farrar here...

[Weyoun]

I believe I have it.

I think this marriage/paramour thing might have more going for it than we realized. For example, Ziegfeld dated and was involved with Anna Held. So, we have Ziegfeld, "Anna" Roosevelt, and John Held Jr. Anna Held, incidentally, often went by the stage name "Anna Held Jr."

Now, let's try Masters and Johnson, since it's sitting there. We have William Masters. We have Harold Johnson. And what was Patsy Cline's birth name? Virginia...

[Weyoun]

I believe I have it.

I think this marriage/paramour thing might have more going for it than we realized. For example, Ziegfeld dated and was involved with Anna Held. So, we have Ziegfeld, "Anna" Roosevelt, and John Held Jr. Anna Held, incidentally, often went by the stage name "Anna Held Jr."

Now, let's try Masters and Johnson, since it's sitting there. We have William Masters. We have Harold Johnson. And what was Patsy Cline's birth name? Virginia...

Except... I can't think of any more! Gah.

[franktangredi]

I believe I have it.

I think this marriage/paramour thing might have more going for it than we realized. For example, Ziegfeld dated and was involved with Anna Held. So, we have Ziegfeld, "Anna" Roosevelt, and John Held Jr. Anna Held, incidentally, often went by the stage name "Anna Held Jr."

Now, let's try Masters and Johnson, since it's sitting there. We have William Masters. We have Harold Johnson. And what was Patsy Cline's birth name? Virginia...

Except... I can't think of any more! Gah.

You might also think in terms of what element is missing from this puzzle.

[mellytu74]

I believe I have it.

I think this marriage/paramour thing might have more going for it than we realized. For example, Ziegfeld dated and was involved with Anna Held. So, we have Ziegfeld, "Anna" Roosevelt, and John Held Jr. Anna Held, incidentally, often went by the stage name "Anna Held Jr."

Now, let's try Masters and Johnson, since it's sitting there. We have William Masters. We have Harold Johnson. And what was Patsy Cline's birth name? Virginia...

Except... I can't think of any more! Gah.

You might also think in terms of what element is missing from this puzzle.

References to It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World?

[smilergrogan]

I think we kind of had it from the beginning (frustrating to Frank, probably, as well as us):

40. STEPHEN Grover Cleveland + 28. Marjory DOUGLAS = STEPHEN DOUGLAS, goes with 1. ABRAHAM LINCOLN

14. ANNA Eleanor Roosevelt + 45. John HELD Jr. = ANNA HELD, goes with 62. FLORENZ ZIEGFELD

44. ROY Halston Frowick + 34. Dominique WILKINS = ROY WILKINS, goes with 10. W.E.B. DU BOIS

51. EDWARD "Duke" Ellington + 26. William LEAR = EDWARD LEAR, goes with 70. THE OWL AND THE PUSSYCAT

64. WALTER "Red" Barber + 75. Ishmael REED = WALTER REED, goes with 7. CARLOS FINLAY

18. WILLIAM Somerset Maugham + 27. Roger SHERMAN = WILLIAM SHERMAN, goes with 59. GEORGE "PAP" THOMAS

79. JAMES Paul McCartney + 61. Thomas WOLFE = JAMES WOLFE, goes with 13. LOUIS JOSEPH DE MONTCALM

24. VIRGINIA Patsy Cline + 25. Harold JOHNSON = VIRGINIA JOHNSON, goes with 46. WILLIAM MASTERS


Two possibilities for "Richard" (Frank says those used twice must be used in a different capacity each time):

23. RICHARD Buckminster Fuller + 78. Nelson "Bo" BURTON = RICHARD BURTON, goes with 50. JOHN SPEKE

23. RICHARD Buckminster Fuller + 67. Pat NIXON = RICHARD NIXON, goes with 20. CARL BERNSTEIN AND BOB WOODWARD




Game #115: False Starts

Identify the 80 people indicated in the clues below. Match them up into 28 triples according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Four names will be used twice, each in two different capacities.

In honor of last month’s holiday, five of the people in the clues below were residents of the White House at one time or another.

*1. ABRAHAM LINCOLN
2. LE CORBUSIER (Charles-Edouard Jeanneret-Gris)
3. PHIL SIMMS
4. This author’s masterpiece is one of the leading candidates for the title of Great American Novel, but he lost the Pulitzer Prize to Edna Ferber.
F. (Francis) SCOTT (Key) FITZGERALD ?
5. GEORGE BERKELEY
6. MARGOT FONTEYN
*7. CARLOS FINLAY
8. In his penultimate film – 47 years before his death – he played his own nephew. (Well, sorta.)
9. This pioneer of American finance brought the middle class into the stock market – and the supermarket.
CHARLES MERRILL?
*10. W.E.B. (William Edward Burghardt) DU BOIS
11. BONO (Paul David Hewson)
12. LUCKY (Salvatore Charles) LUCIANO.
*13. LOUIS JOSEPH DE MONTCALM
*14. ELEANOR (Anna) ROOSEVELT
15. POPE BENEDICT XVI (Joseph Ratziger)
16. SIMON COWELL
17. JANE MARPLE
*18. W. (William) SOMERSET MAUGHAM
19. GERTRUDE EDERLE
20. CARL BERNSTEIN and BOB WOODWARD
21. SUSAN CLARK
22. WILLIAM MORTON
*23. R. (Richard) BUCKMINSTER FULLER
24. (Virginia) PATSY CLINE
*25. HAROLD JOHNSON
*26. WILLIAM LEAR
*27. ROGER SHERMAN
*28. MARJORY DOUGLAS
29. HUBERT KELLER
30. JEDEDIAH SMITH
31. JEREMY TAYLOR
32. J. (John) EDGAR HOOVER
33. GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
*34. DOMINIQUE WILKINS
35. JAMES CHADWICK
36. LINDSAY ANDERSON
37. CHARLES IVES
38. SWEENEY TODD
39. BRIT HUME
*40. (Stephen) GROVER CLEVELAND
41. JOHN DEWEY
42. JOHN LEWIS
43. GEORGE MARSHALL
*44. HALSTON (Roy Halston Frowick)
*45. JOHN HELD, JR.
*46. WILLIAM MASTERS
47. BEATRIX POTTER
48. EDWARD G ROBINSON
49. HELEN WILLS MOODY
*50. JOHN SPEKE
*51. EDWARD K. "DUKE" ELLINGTON
52. BUTCH CASSIDY (Robert LeRoy Parker)
53. THE SUNDANCE KID (Harry Alonzo Longabaugh)
54. JAMES I STUART
55. BRIGHAM YOUNG
56. ALFRED P. SLOAN
57. MARY MCDOWELL
58. YOGI (Lawrence Peter) BERRA
*59. GEORGE "PAP" THOMAS
60. ALEXANDER GRAHAM BELL
*61. THOMAS WOLFE
*62. FLORENZ ZIEGFELD
63. HENRY DAVID THOREAU
*64. RED (Walter Lanier) BARBER
65. This soprano made her La Scala debut in 1946 under the direction of Toscanini, who declared that she had “the voice of an angel.”
RENATA TEBALDI?
66. GEORGE LUKS
67. PAT (Thelma) NIXON
68. SCOTT (Malcolm) CARPENTER
69. ROGER BACON
*70. THE OWL AND THE PUSSYCAT
71. This Canadian-born entrepreneur opened the first of what became a chain of famous establishments on New York’s Fifth Avenue in 1907.
72. ROBERT JACKSON
73. This Victorian cleric helped shape the modern concept of a “liberal education.”
WILLIAM FARRAR?
74. HAP (Henry Harley) ARNOLD
*75. ISHMAEL REED
76. GARY (Frank James) COOPER
77. ERNEST RUTHERFORD
78. (Nelson) BO BURTON
*79. (James) PAUL MCCARTNEY
80. WOODROW WILSON

[wintergreen48]

#49. HELEN Wills Moody and # 29. Hubert KELLER gives HELEN KELLER to go with #60. ALEXANDER GRAHAM BELL (he's the one who recommended the Perkins Institute and Annie Sullivan to the Kellers)

[wintergreen48]

There must be somebody in here whose true first name is 'David,' which would link with #39. Brit HUME, with DAVID HUME being related to #5. GEORGE BERKELEY

I am tempted to link Lucky Luciano's real first name (Salvatore), which was Sonny Bono's real first name, with Bono, but other than Cher I am not sure of any Sonny Bono links, and Bono is not Bono's real name so that does not seem to work with the rest of the puzzle...

[wintergreen48]

OK, this is better: #40. Woodrow Wilson's real first name was Thomas, which could go with #41. John DEWEY to give THOMAS DEWEY, who successfully prosecuted #12. LUCKY (Salvatore Charles) LUCIANO.

[megaaddict]

If I get one of these per contest, it makes my day.

I think this eliminates a ? as well.

4. (FRANCIS) Scott Fitzgerald + 69. (Roger) BACON makes

FRANCIS BACON which goes with

54. JAMES I STUART

[wintergreen48]

Given the interests of a lot of people on this Bored, I would think that 53. THE SUNDANCE KID (Harry Alonzo Longabaugh) would link with 47. Beatrix POTTER to give HARRY POTTER, but I don't know enough about Harry Potter to see if there is something else that he would link to.

[wintergreen48]

Something that is a bit of a stretch, not because it does not work but because the connection is not all that clear, but:

If you add 48. EDWARD G. Robinson to 57. Mary McDOWELL, you get EDWARD MCDOWELL, a great American composer, who could link with 37. CHARLES IVES, another one.

The weakness in the link is that they have nothing in common other than being New England-born composers, whose lifetimes overlapped, but that's all I've got.

[Weyoun]

Any idea as to who might be a Florence? I ask because Florence CHADWICK is a footnote to Gertrude Ederele - she was the first to swim across the Channel from both directions.

[Weyoun]

I think the McDowell also could lead to Malcolm Scott Carpenter. Malcolm McDowell starred in "If...", directed by Lindsay Anderson (in my Netflix queue - thanks, Criterion!).

Off to a poker game, but more tonight.

[smilergrogan]

New consolidation: I'm pretty sure the first name has to belong to a person who is not normally referred to by that name, so Helen Moody can't make Helen Keller and Edward G. Robinson can't make Edward McDowell.

40. STEPHEN Grover Cleveland + 28. Marjory DOUGLAS = STEPHEN DOUGLAS, goes with 1. ABRAHAM LINCOLN

14. ANNA Eleanor Roosevelt + 45. John HELD Jr. = ANNA HELD, goes with 62. FLORENZ ZIEGFELD

44. ROY Halston Frowick + 34. Dominique WILKINS = ROY WILKINS, goes with 10. W.E.B. DU BOIS

51. EDWARD "Duke" Ellington + 26. William LEAR = EDWARD LEAR, goes with 70. THE OWL AND THE PUSSYCAT

64. WALTER "Red" Barber + 75. Ishmael REED = WALTER REED, goes with 7. CARLOS FINLAY

18. WILLIAM Somerset Maugham + 27. Roger SHERMAN = WILLIAM SHERMAN, goes with 59. GEORGE "PAP" THOMAS

79. JAMES Paul McCartney + 61. Thomas WOLFE = JAMES WOLFE, goes with 13. LOUIS JOSEPH DE MONTCALM

24. VIRGINIA Patsy Cline + 25. Harold JOHNSON = VIRGINIA JOHNSON, goes with 46. WILLIAM MASTERS

80. THOMAS Woodrow Wilson + 41. John DEWEY = THOMAS DEWEY, goes with 12. LUCKY LUCIANO

4. FRANCIS Scott Fitzgerald + 69. Roger BACON = FRANCIS BACON, goes with 54. JAMES I STUART

58. LAWRENCE "Yogi" Berra + 31. Jeremy TAYLOR = LAWRENCE TAYLOR, goes with 3. PHIL SIMMS

15. JOSEPH Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI) + 30. Jedediah SMITH = JOSEPH SMITH, goes with 55. BRIGHAM YOUNG

68. MALCOLM Scott Carpenter + 57. Mary MCDOWELL = MALCOLM MCDOWELL, goes with 36. LINDSAY ANDERSON

Two possibilities for "Richard" (Frank says those used twice must be used in a different capacity each time):

23. RICHARD Buckminster Fuller + 78. Nelson "Bo" BURTON = RICHARD BURTON, goes with 50. JOHN SPEKE

23. RICHARD Buckminster Fuller + 67. Pat NIXON = RICHARD NIXON, goes with 20. CARL BERNSTEIN AND BOB WOODWARD

Partials:
?? HELEN ? + 29. Hubert KELLER = HELEN KELLER, goes with 60. ALEXANDER GRAHAM BELL

?? DAVID ? + 39. Brit HUME = DAVID HUME, goes with 5. GEORGE BERKELEY

?? RANDY ? + 72. Robert JACKSON = RANDY JACKSON, goes with 16. SIMON COWELL

?? FLORENCE ? + 35. James CHADWICK = FLORENCE CHADWICK, goes with 19. GERTRUDE EDERLE

53. HARRY "The Sundance Kid" Longabaugh + 47. Beatrix POTTER = HARRY POTTER, goes with ??



Game #115: False Starts

Identify the 80 people indicated in the clues below. Match them up into 28 triples according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Four names will be used twice, each in two different capacities.

In honor of last month’s holiday, five of the people in the clues below were residents of the White House at one time or another.

*1. ABRAHAM LINCOLN
2. LE CORBUSIER (Charles-Edouard Jeanneret-Gris)
*3. PHIL SIMMS
*4. F. (Francis) SCOTT (Key) FITZGERALD
5. GEORGE BERKELEY
6. MARGOT FONTEYN
*7. CARLOS FINLAY
8. In his penultimate film – 47 years before his death – he played his own nephew. (Well, sorta.)
9. This pioneer of American finance brought the middle class into the stock market – and the supermarket.
CHARLES MERRILL?
*10. W.E.B. (William Edward Burghardt) DU BOIS
11. BONO (Paul David Hewson)
*12. LUCKY (Salvatore Charles) LUCIANO.
*13. LOUIS JOSEPH DE MONTCALM
*14. ELEANOR (Anna) ROOSEVELT
*15. POPE BENEDICT XVI (Joseph Ratziger)
16. SIMON COWELL
17. JANE MARPLE
*18. W. (William) SOMERSET MAUGHAM
19. GERTRUDE EDERLE
20. CARL BERNSTEIN and BOB WOODWARD
21. SUSAN CLARK
22. WILLIAM MORTON
*23. R. (Richard) BUCKMINSTER FULLER
24. (Virginia) PATSY CLINE
*25. HAROLD JOHNSON
*26. WILLIAM LEAR
*27. ROGER SHERMAN
*28. MARJORY DOUGLAS
29. HUBERT KELLER
*30. JEDEDIAH SMITH
*31. JEREMY TAYLOR
32. J. (John) EDGAR HOOVER
33. GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
*34. DOMINIQUE WILKINS
35. JAMES CHADWICK
*36. LINDSAY ANDERSON
37. CHARLES IVES
38. SWEENEY TODD
39. BRIT HUME
*40. (Stephen) GROVER CLEVELAND
*41. JOHN DEWEY
42. JOHN LEWIS
43. GEORGE MARSHALL
*44. HALSTON (Roy Halston Frowick)
*45. JOHN HELD, JR.
*46. WILLIAM MASTERS
47. BEATRIX POTTER
48. EDWARD G ROBINSON
49. HELEN WILLS MOODY
*50. JOHN SPEKE
*51. EDWARD K. "DUKE" ELLINGTON
52. BUTCH CASSIDY (Robert LeRoy Parker)
53. THE SUNDANCE KID (Harry Alonzo Longabaugh)
*54. JAMES I STUART
*55. BRIGHAM YOUNG
56. ALFRED P. SLOAN
57. MARY MCDOWELL
*58. (Lawrence Peter) "YOGI" BERRA
*59. GEORGE "PAP" THOMAS
60. ALEXANDER GRAHAM BELL
*61. THOMAS WOLFE
*62. FLORENZ ZIEGFELD
63. HENRY DAVID THOREAU
*64. RED (Walter Lanier) BARBER
65. This soprano made her La Scala debut in 1946 under the direction of Toscanini, who declared that she had “the voice of an angel.”
RENATA TEBALDI?
66. GEORGE LUKS
67. (Thelma) PAT NIXON
68. (Malcolm) SCOTT CARPENTER
*69. ROGER BACON
*70. THE OWL AND THE PUSSYCAT
71. This Canadian-born entrepreneur opened the first of what became a chain of famous establishments on New York’s Fifth Avenue in 1907.
72. ROBERT JACKSON
73. This Victorian cleric helped shape the modern concept of a “liberal education.”
WILLIAM FARRAR?
74. HAP (Henry Harley) ARNOLD
*75. ISHMAEL REED
76. GARY (Frank James) COOPER
77. ERNEST RUTHERFORD
78. (Nelson) BO BURTON
*79. (James) PAUL MCCARTNEY
*80. (Thomas) WOODROW WILSON

[mellytu74]

Coming to this VERY late -- mea cupla but, like Mr. K, I cannot access at work anymore. We were scolded as a department for close to "exsessive" Internet use

Beatrix Potter's first name was HELEN, so there's the Helen Keller match.

[mellytu74]

Thelma Nixon + Sweeney todd gives us Thelma Todd, who was alledgedly murdered by Lucky Luciano.

But would that ruin Thomas Dewey for us?

[franktangredi]

Thelma Nixon + Sweeney todd gives us Thelma Todd, who was alledgedly murdered by Lucky Luciano.

But would that ruin Thomas Dewey for us?

Oops, I didn't think of that particular connection to Thelma Todd.

[mellytu74]

Oh, so Thelma Todd is right?

[silvercamaro]

Okay, so where it becomes needed, Margot Fonteyn's birth name was MARGARET Hookham. (She was called Peggy as a kid, but I don't think that's the important part.)

[wintergreen48]

6. MARGARET (Margot) Fonteyn and 77. Ernest RUTHERFORD link up with
17. JANE MARPLE (she played her).

[mellytu74]

8. has been driving me crazy. AND I can't post from work, so it's been nagging at me all day.

I realize -- since Thelma Todd is right -- that it must be Zeppo Marx.

Zeppo Marx, in a late role before he left the group to become an agent - and he was an agent for a long, long time - played Groucho's son. Horsefeathers, I think.

AND, in several early Marx Brothers movies, Thelma Todd was a foil for Zeppo Marx.

So that may be another match

[mellytu74]

I don't suppose Florence Chadwick went by Flo - we could have FLo Ziegfeld and Flor Chadwick.

OR Florenz Chadwick.

I guess not.

[wintergreen48]

48. EDWARD G ROBINSON's real name was Emmanuel Something or other. Emmanuel Lewis was in a TV show, called Webster, which co-starred 21. SUSAN CLARK. So there must be someone in this puzzle whose real last name is LEWIS, who would go with 48 and 21.