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Re: Game #119 Consolidation

#26 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:27 pm

smilergrogan wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:It sounds like I Spit on Your Grave, which a lot of people have described by terms such as "vile bag of garbage."
This would seem to rule out an actor or director connection as the Tangredi (at least not for all the films), since it seems doubtful that any notable actors or directors were associated with I Spit on Your Grave. Usually that means it's the title that's important - I'm guessing the word "Spit". Any other "spit" flicks come to mind?
There's no other "spit" movies that have ever actually been released in movie theaters. There is The Spitfire Grill, which might be a match if Frank relaxed his standards a bit as he indicated. There are a number of "grave" or "graves" movies.

I Spit on Your Grave starred Camille Keaton, niece of Buster Keaton, but I doubt Frank would go for that type of a match.

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#27 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:04 pm

FWIW, Leo Gorcey's character in Dead End was named Spit. And Gorcey was in Angels with Dirty Faces.

Of course, that probably means nothing :)

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#28 Post by kroxquo » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:35 pm

A-1. WAG City Lights

A-2. No Country For Old Men?

A-3. School Daze

A-4. 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea?

A-5.

A-6. First one I'm Sure of - The Princess Bride

A-7. Stagecoach?

A-8.

A-9. Singin' In The Rain?

A-10.

A-11. Looking For Mr. Goodbar

A-12.

A-13. The Godfather

A-14.

A-15.

A-16. Guys And Dolls

A-17. Reefer Madness?

A-18.

A-19. WAG 12 Angry Men

A-20.

A-21. Love Is A Battlefield?

A-22.

A-23.

A-24.

A-25.

A-26. A Christmas Story

A-27. WAG Bang The Drum Slowly

A-28.

A-29.

A-30.

A-31.

A-32.

A-33. WAG Kelly's Heroes

A-34.

A-35.

A-36.

A-37.

A-38.

A-39.

A-40.

A-41. The Great Escape?

A-42. Duck Soup

A-43.

A-44.

A-45. Knighty Knight Bugs

A-46.

A-47.

A-48.

A-49. Dr. No

A-50.

LIST B: ACTORS

B-1.

B-2. Dustin Hoffman?

B-3.

B-4.

B-5. Randolph Scott

B-6.

B-7.

B-8.

B-9.

B-10.

B-11.

B-12.

B-13. Sergei Eisenstein?

B-14.

B-15.

B-16.

B-17. Divine

B-18.

B-19.

B-20.

B-21.

B-22.

B-23. Charlton Heston?

B-24.

B-25.

B-26.

B-27.

B-28.

B-29.

B-30.

B-31.

B-32.

B-33.

B-34.

B-35.

B-36.

B-37.

B-38.

B-39.

B-40.

B-41. James Dean?

B-42.

B-43. Alistair Sims

B-44.

B-45. Charlie Chaplin

B-46. Harvey Keitel

B-47. Jennifer Jason Leigh

B-48.

B-49.

B-50.
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Re: Game #119 Consolidation

#29 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:32 pm

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B-49. Daughter of an actor in one of the preceding clues, she has been nominated for the Oscar exactly the same number of times as her father.
JANE FONDA?
This should be Laura Dern, who like Daddy Bruce, has one Oscar nomination.

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#30 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:49 pm

NellyLunatic1980 wrote: A-7. The sixth of sixteen films made by arguably the greatest actor/director team of all time, it is also considered by some the first modern action movie.
THE SEVEN SAMURAI? STAGECOACH?
This would seem to fit Seven Samurai since Kurosawa and Mifune made 16 films together. However, according to both IMDB and Wikipedia, Samurai was the seventh film they made together not the sixth (following Drunken Angel, Quiet Duel, Scandal, Stray Dog, Rashomon and The Idiot). Ford and Wayne made 24 films together.

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#31 Post by Weyoun » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:31 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote: A-7. The sixth of sixteen films made by arguably the greatest actor/director team of all time, it is also considered by some the first modern action movie.
THE SEVEN SAMURAI? STAGECOACH?
This would seem to fit Seven Samurai since Kurosawa and Mifune made 16 films together. However, according to both IMDB and Wikipedia, Samurai was the seventh film they made together not the sixth (following Drunken Angel, Quiet Duel, Scandal, Stray Dog, Rashomon and The Idiot). Ford and Wayne made 24 films together.
Yeah, but it is Samurai. The other ones don't work as action movies.

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#32 Post by franktangredi » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:37 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote: A-7. The sixth of sixteen films made by arguably the greatest actor/director team of all time, it is also considered by some the first modern action movie.
THE SEVEN SAMURAI? STAGECOACH?
This would seem to fit Seven Samurai since Kurosawa and Mifune made 16 films together. However, according to both IMDB and Wikipedia, Samurai was the seventh film they made together not the sixth (following Drunken Angel, Quiet Duel, Scandal, Stray Dog, Rashomon and The Idiot). Ford and Wayne made 24 films together.
I may have miscounted, then. Sorry. It is indeed The Seven Samurai.

Incidentally, when it comes to great actor/director combos, it's hard to think of many that approach Mifune/Kurosawa. Certainly the other one everyone thought of, Wayne/Ford is up there. But I don't think even they are as closely identified, at least in this country: Ford was big before he hooked up with Wayne, whereas Kurosawa and Mifune pretty much entered greatness side by side.

Von Sydow/Bergman and Mastroianni/Fellini also come to mind. DeNiro/Scorsese a shade below? If we expand to include actresses, there are Masina/Fellini and the grand-daddy of them all, Gish/Griffith.

Any other candidates?

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Re: Game #119 Consolidation

#33 Post by frogman042 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:30 am

franktangredi wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote: A-7. The sixth of sixteen films made by arguably the greatest actor/director team of all time, it is also considered by some the first modern action movie.
THE SEVEN SAMURAI? STAGECOACH?
This would seem to fit Seven Samurai since Kurosawa and Mifune made 16 films together. However, according to both IMDB and Wikipedia, Samurai was the seventh film they made together not the sixth (following Drunken Angel, Quiet Duel, Scandal, Stray Dog, Rashomon and The Idiot). Ford and Wayne made 24 films together.
I may have miscounted, then. Sorry. It is indeed The Seven Samurai.

Incidentally, when it comes to great actor/director combos, it's hard to think of many that approach Mifune/Kurosawa. Certainly the other one everyone thought of, Wayne/Ford is up there. But I don't think even they are as closely identified, at least in this country: Ford was big before he hooked up with Wayne, whereas Kurosawa and Mifune pretty much entered greatness side by side.

Von Sydow/Bergman and Mastroianni/Fellini also come to mind. DeNiro/Scorsese a shade below? If we expand to include actresses, there are Masina/Fellini and the grand-daddy of them all, Gish/Griffith.

Any other candidates?
I always associate John Huston and Humphrey Bogart - I knew they weren't the right pair for your question because I knew they didn't make 16 films together - turns out it was only 6, but Huston's first movie - The Maltese Falcon I think it can be argured made Bogey, well, Bogey. Prior to that he really was a supporting player but MF made him a star. Plus, of the 6 they made together - these 4: The Maltese Falcon, Key Largo, Treasure of the Sierra Madre and The African Queen (plust the fact that Huston first wanted to make The Man Who Would Be King with both Bogart and Clark Gable) - I think makes them a legit team.

An a different note, I figured out the Harry Langdon/Frank Capra connection clue but for the life of me couldn't figure out which Capra movie your clue meant - none came to mind until someone else posted State of the Union - I was running through his 30's movies through my head without success. I never particularly cared for SOTU so that is why I don't think it came to mind. I had read Capra's Autobiography about 25 years ago, but he description of his relationship and subsequent break-up with Langdon stayed with me - so I figured that had to be who you were talking about even though I couldn't think of a Capra film that met your criteria.

Finally, great set of questions - I felt proud knowing the small % I did know without doing any research. It includes such a great range of films, performances and dialog - I really am enjoying it.

Thanks,

---Jay (These films -- Ben-Hur (1959), Titanic (1997), and The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (2003) -- have each won the exact same number of Academy Awards - if you know what that number is, well then you will know the rest...)

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Re: Game #119 Consolidation

#34 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:32 am

franktangredi wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote: A-7. The sixth of sixteen films made by arguably the greatest actor/director team of all time, it is also considered by some the first modern action movie.
THE SEVEN SAMURAI? STAGECOACH?
This would seem to fit Seven Samurai since Kurosawa and Mifune made 16 films together. However, according to both IMDB and Wikipedia, Samurai was the seventh film they made together not the sixth (following Drunken Angel, Quiet Duel, Scandal, Stray Dog, Rashomon and The Idiot). Ford and Wayne made 24 films together.
I may have miscounted, then. Sorry. It is indeed The Seven Samurai.

Incidentally, when it comes to great actor/director combos, it's hard to think of many that approach Mifune/Kurosawa. Certainly the other one everyone thought of, Wayne/Ford is up there. But I don't think even they are as closely identified, at least in this country: Ford was big before he hooked up with Wayne, whereas Kurosawa and Mifune pretty much entered greatness side by side.

Von Sydow/Bergman and Mastroianni/Fellini also come to mind. DeNiro/Scorsese a shade below? If we expand to include actresses, there are Masina/Fellini and the grand-daddy of them all, Gish/Griffith.

Any other candidates?
Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen?

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Re: Game #119 Consolidation

#35 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:24 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
franktangredi wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote: This would seem to fit Seven Samurai since Kurosawa and Mifune made 16 films together. However, according to both IMDB and Wikipedia, Samurai was the seventh film they made together not the sixth (following Drunken Angel, Quiet Duel, Scandal, Stray Dog, Rashomon and The Idiot). Ford and Wayne made 24 films together.
I may have miscounted, then. Sorry. It is indeed The Seven Samurai.

Incidentally, when it comes to great actor/director combos, it's hard to think of many that approach Mifune/Kurosawa. Certainly the other one everyone thought of, Wayne/Ford is up there. But I don't think even they are as closely identified, at least in this country: Ford was big before he hooked up with Wayne, whereas Kurosawa and Mifune pretty much entered greatness side by side.

Von Sydow/Bergman and Mastroianni/Fellini also come to mind. DeNiro/Scorsese a shade below? If we expand to include actresses, there are Masina/Fellini and the grand-daddy of them all, Gish/Griffith.

Any other candidates?
Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen?
LOLOLOL

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Game #119 New Consolidation

#36 Post by smilergrogan » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:56 am

Removed clues from definite answers and left in actors who delivered quotes in list A and movies from which quotes in list B were taken, in case those prove to be significant.

Little clue on the Tangredi so far. We have Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, and Val Kilmer was in Real Genius.

Game #119 – All Kinds of Movies

Identify the 50 movies indicated in List A and the 50 actors indicated in List B. (In each list, every other clue is a quotation.) Pair the movies, according to a Tangredi or principle you must discover for yourself. Then, match each pair of movies to a pair of actors.

There’s one tiny element of this puzzle that I’m much less strict about than usual. You will figure it out.

LIST A: MOVIES

A-1. CITY LIGHTS
A-2. NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (Tommy Lee Jones)
A-3. SCHOOL DAZE
A-4. 20000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA (James Mason)
A-5. The stentorian style of this monthly ‘news magazine’ was famously parodied in the opening sequences of an even more famous film.
THE MARCH OF TIME?
A-6. “You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you.”
“You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die.”
THE PRINCESS BRIDE
A-7. THE SEVEN SAMURAI
A-8. “All right, this is it. These crummy aliens stole our parents, it's time to show them what we're made of. We're tough, we're mean. Darn it, we're carbon based life forms. So who's going to kick buttocks?”
JIMMY NEUTRON: BOY GENIUS
A-9. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS
A-10. “I came here to rob you, but unfortunately I fell in love with you.”
TROUBLE IN PARADISE
A-11. I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE
A-12. THE PEOPLE VS. LARRY FLYNT (Woody Harrelson)
A-13. GOING MY WAY
A-14. “You were sitting at the next table. She turned and borrowed the sugar. You must remember.”
“Yes, I recall passing the sugar.”
“Well then, you saw her.”
“I repeat, we were deep in conversation. We were discussing cricket.”
“Well, I don't see how a thing like cricket can make you forget seeing people.”
“Oh, don't you? If that's your attitude, there's nothing more to be said!”
THE LADY VANISHES
A-15. The masterpiece of the second-greatest Soviet filmmaker, its most famous scene depicts the joy of peasants at the arrival of a new tractor. (Did I mention it was Soviet?)

A-16. “One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not yet broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an ear full of cider.”
GUYS AND DOLLS
A-17. REEFER MADNESS
A-18. “No matter how far we traveled on our own separate paths....”
“Somehow we would always find out way back to each other….”
“And with that, we could get through anything.”
“To us. Who we were, and who we are. And who we'll be.”
SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELLING PANTS
A-19. This courtroom drama was the second (and last) film directed by the leading playwright to emerge from the Group Theatre.

A-20. “I'm gonna do to you what my daddy did to me. I'm gonna teach you to HATE spending money. I'm gonna make you so sick of spending money that the mere sight of it will make you wanna throw up!”
BREWSTER'S MILLIONS?
A-21. This medical tearjerker has no relationship whatsoever to a hit song released by Pat Benatar two years later.
WHOSE LIFE IS IT ANYWAY?
A-22. SLEEPER (Woody Allen)
A-23. SHAKE HANDS WITH THE DEVIL
A-24. “We have ways of making men talk.”
LIVES OF A BENGAL LANCER
A-25. SHE DONE HIM WRONG
A-26. “My little brother had not eaten voluntarily in over three years.”
A CHRISTMAS STORY
A-27. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY
A-28. “I can't live without you. And I won't let you live without me.”
SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY
A-29. THE WINDOW
A-30. THERE WILL BE BLOOD (Daniel Day Lewis)
A-31. This Oscar-winning documentary was, appropriately, narrated by the author of ‘Torch Song Trilogy.’
THE CELLULOID CLOSET?
A-32. “I never knew fear until I kissed Becky.”
INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (original)
A-33. KELLY'S HEROES
A-34. PRACTICAL MAGIC (Sandra Bullock)
A-35. This was certainly not the first film whose leading lady was sleeping with its producer, but it was the first one for which she also won an Oscar.

A-36. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END or THE BLACK PEARL (Johnny Depp)
A-37. In this musical, the young star of a musical in one of the preceding clues followed in the footsteps of the first two actresses to ever win Oscars.

A-38. “What'd I do?”
“You killed the car.”
FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF
A-39. This satirical comedy is quite obscure in and of itself, but the suite derived from its score became one of the most popular works of a great 20th century composer

A-40. “Look at it out here, it's all falling apart. I'm erasing you and I'm happy!.”
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND?
A-41. THE GUNS OF NAVARONE
A-42. ANIMAL CRACKERS (Groucho Marx)
A-43. PACIFIC HEIGHTS
A-44. “This is your law and your finest possession - it makes you free men in a free country. Why have you come here to destroy it? If you know what's good for you, take those weapons home and burn them! And then think... think of this country and of the law that makes it what it is. Think of a world crying for this very law! And maybe you'll understand why you ought to guard it. Why the law has got to be the personal concern of every citizen. To uphold it for your neighbor as well as yourself. Violence against it is one mistake. Another mistake is for any man to look upon the law as just a set of principles. And just so much language printed on fine, heavy paper. Something he recites and then leans back and takes it for granted that justice is automatically being done. Both kinds of men are equally wrong! The law must be engraved in our hearts and practiced every minute to the letter and spirit. It can't even exist unless we're willing to go down into the dust and blood and fight a battle every day of our lives to preserve it. For our neighbor as well as ourselves!”
THE TALK OF THE TOWN
A-45. This was the only Bugs Bunny cartoon to win an Oscar for Best Animated Short Subject.
KNIGHTY-KNIGHT BUGS?
A-46. “Ladies, you have to be strong and independent, and remember, don't get mad, get everything.”
FIRST WIVES CLUB
A-47. STATE OF THE UNION
A-48. “The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over, my son. Now you will find peace.”
THE WOLF MAN
A-49. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
A-50. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (Heath Ledger)

LIST B: ACTORS

B-1. The only time AMPAS ever presented an award after Best Picture was when they gave this screen legend his second honorary Oscar.
CHARLIE CHAPLIN?
B-2. DUSTIN HOFFMAN (Midnight Cowboy)
B-3. SOPHIA LOREN
B-4. WILLEM DAFOE (Shadow of the Vampire)
B-5. RANDOLPH SCOTT
B-6. MAGGIE SMITH (Sister Act)
B-7. Two decades after beating Spencer Tracey for an Oscar, this actor won a Tony for creating a role that would later earn Tracy an Oscar nomination.
PAUL MUNI? FREDRICK MARCH?
B-8. VAL KILMER (Top Secret!)
B-9. JACK HAWKINS
B-10. CHARLIZE THERON (Monster)
B-11. BRUCE DERN
B-12. SID CAESAR (some comedy movie with Sid Caesar)
B-13. ERICH VON STROHEIM
B-14. “I am not her child! She's a bad lady! She tried to sell me to gypsies! Please. Please let the Grandfather take me home. He didn't mean to do anything bad.”
SHIRLEY TEMPLE?
B-15. The shortest distance from Buddy Holly and the Big Bopper to Rodgers and Hammerstein is through this actor.
LOU DIAMOND PHILLIPS?
B-16. “Yeah, I'll fight him. Get my face kicked in. And you come around here. You wanna move in here with me? Come on in! It's a nice house! Real nice. Come on in and move. It stinks! This whole place stinks. You wanna help me out? Well, help me out! Come on, help me out. I'm standin' here!”
MARLON BRANDO?
B-17. DIVINE
B-18. TILDA SWINTON (Michael Clayton)
B-19. Thanks to ill health and the declining popularity of musicals, this dancer’s career consisted of only thirteen films in as many years.
BILL ROBINSON? VERA ELLEN?
B-20. JEFF BRIDGES (Starman)
B-21. HARRY LANGDON
B-22. JENNIFER CONNELLY (House of Sand and Fog)
B-23. ADOLPH MENJOU
B-24. JAMES CAGNEY (Angels with Dirty Faces)
B-25. DANNY DEVITO
B-26. NICOLE KIDMAN (To Die For)
B-27. He made his last movie at the age of 82, the same year he received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the American Film Institute.
FRED ASTAIRE?
B-28. JEFF DANIELS (Purple Rose of Cairo)
B-29. CARY GRANT
B-30. VIGGO MORTENSEN (Lord of the Rings: Return of the King)
B-31. ETHEL BARRYMORE
B-32. “Back to school. Back to school, to prove to Dad that I'm not a fool. I got my lunch packed up, my boots tied tight, I hope I don't get in a fight. Ohhhh, back to school. Back to school. Back to school.”
ADAM SANDLER?
B-33. EWAN MACGREGOR
B-34. HENRY FONDA (Grapes of Wrath)
B-35. MARY TYLER MOORE
B-36. WILL FERRELL (Elf)
B-37. NORMA SHEARER
B-38. TOM CRUISE (Rain Man)
B-39. BRUCE DAVISON
B-40. “During one of my treks through Afghanistan, we lost our corkscrew. Compelled to live on food and water for several days.”
W.C. FIELDS
B-41. He was the youngest actor ever accorded the final spot in the annual Oscar ‘Tribute’ segment.
JAMES DEAN? HEATH LEDGER? RIVER PHOENIX?
B-42. BETTE MIDLER (Ruthless People)
B-43. He made his mark as a handsome continental leading man, but if you grew up when I did, he will forever be that mean old man who wanted to destroy Christmas.
LIONEL BARRYMORE? ALISTAIR SIMS?
B-44. SETH GREEN (Austin Powers)
B-45. CHARLIE CHAPLIN
B-46. HARVEY KEITEL (Pulp Fiction)
B-47. BRIDGET FONDA
B-48. MARLON BRANDO (The Godfather)
B-49. LAURA DERN
B-50. JIMMY STEWART (Vertigo)

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#37 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:15 pm

DUH!!!

B-16. “Yeah, I'll fight him. Get my face kicked in. And you come around here. You wanna move in here with me? Come on in! It's a nice house! Real nice. Come on in and move. It stinks! This whole place stinks. You wanna help me out? Well, help me out! Come on, help me out. I'm standin' here!”
MARLON BRANDO?

No. It's SYLVESTER STALLONE in Rocky. At least you had a prime, Mick. I didn't have no prime. I had nuttin'.

A-37. In this musical, the young star of a musical in one of the preceding clues followed in the footsteps of the first two actresses to ever win Oscars.

This has to be DADDY LONG LEGS. Both Gaynor and Pickford (the first two Oscar winners did versions of it and Leslie Caron - An American in Paris - did a musical version with Fred Astaire).

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Re: Game #119 New Consolidation

#38 Post by franktangredi » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:23 pm

smilergrogan wrote:Removed clues from definite answers and left in actors who delivered quotes in list A and movies from which quotes in list B were taken, in case those prove to be significant.

Little clue on the Tangredi so far. We have Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, and Val Kilmer was in Real Genius.

Game #119 – All Kinds of Movies

Identify the 50 movies indicated in List A and the 50 actors indicated in List B. (In each list, every other clue is a quotation.) Pair the movies, according to a Tangredi or principle you must discover for yourself. Then, match each pair of movies to a pair of actors.

There’s one tiny element of this puzzle that I’m much less strict about than usual. You will figure it out.

LIST A: MOVIES

A-1. CITY LIGHTS
A-2. NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (Tommy Lee Jones)
A-3. SCHOOL DAZE
A-4. 20000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA (James Mason)
A-5. The stentorian style of this monthly ‘news magazine’ was famously parodied in the opening sequences of an even more famous film.
THE MARCH OF TIME?
A-6. “You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you.”
“You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die.”
THE PRINCESS BRIDE
A-7. THE SEVEN SAMURAI
A-8. “All right, this is it. These crummy aliens stole our parents, it's time to show them what we're made of. We're tough, we're mean. Darn it, we're carbon based life forms. So who's going to kick buttocks?”
JIMMY NEUTRON: BOY GENIUS
A-9. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS
A-10. “I came here to rob you, but unfortunately I fell in love with you.”
TROUBLE IN PARADISE
A-11. I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE
A-12. THE PEOPLE VS. LARRY FLYNT (Woody Harrelson)
A-13. GOING MY WAY
A-14. “You were sitting at the next table. She turned and borrowed the sugar. You must remember.”
“Yes, I recall passing the sugar.”
“Well then, you saw her.”
“I repeat, we were deep in conversation. We were discussing cricket.”
“Well, I don't see how a thing like cricket can make you forget seeing people.”
“Oh, don't you? If that's your attitude, there's nothing more to be said!”
THE LADY VANISHES
A-15. The masterpiece of the second-greatest Soviet filmmaker, its most famous scene depicts the joy of peasants at the arrival of a new tractor. (Did I mention it was Soviet?)

A-16. “One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not yet broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an ear full of cider.”
GUYS AND DOLLS
A-17. REEFER MADNESS
A-18. “No matter how far we traveled on our own separate paths....”
“Somehow we would always find out way back to each other….”
“And with that, we could get through anything.”
“To us. Who we were, and who we are. And who we'll be.”
SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELLING PANTS
A-19. This courtroom drama was the second (and last) film directed by the leading playwright to emerge from the Group Theatre.

A-20. “I'm gonna do to you what my daddy did to me. I'm gonna teach you to HATE spending money. I'm gonna make you so sick of spending money that the mere sight of it will make you wanna throw up!”
BREWSTER'S MILLIONS?
A-21. This medical tearjerker has no relationship whatsoever to a hit song released by Pat Benatar two years later.
WHOSE LIFE IS IT ANYWAY?
A-22. SLEEPER (Woody Allen)
A-23. SHAKE HANDS WITH THE DEVIL
A-24. “We have ways of making men talk.”
LIVES OF A BENGAL LANCER
A-25. SHE DONE HIM WRONG
A-26. “My little brother had not eaten voluntarily in over three years.”
A CHRISTMAS STORY
A-27. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY
A-28. “I can't live without you. And I won't let you live without me.”
SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY
A-29. THE WINDOW
A-30. THERE WILL BE BLOOD (Daniel Day Lewis)
A-31. This Oscar-winning documentary was, appropriately, narrated by the author of ‘Torch Song Trilogy.’
THE CELLULOID CLOSET?
A-32. “I never knew fear until I kissed Becky.”
INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (original)
A-33. KELLY'S HEROES
A-34. PRACTICAL MAGIC (Sandra Bullock)
A-35. This was certainly not the first film whose leading lady was sleeping with its producer, but it was the first one for which she also won an Oscar.

A-36. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END or THE BLACK PEARL (Johnny Depp)
A-37. In this musical, the young star of a musical in one of the preceding clues followed in the footsteps of the first two actresses to ever win Oscars.

A-38. “What'd I do?”
“You killed the car.”
FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF
A-39. This satirical comedy is quite obscure in and of itself, but the suite derived from its score became one of the most popular works of a great 20th century composer

A-40. “Look at it out here, it's all falling apart. I'm erasing you and I'm happy!.”
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND?
A-41. THE GUNS OF NAVARONE
A-42. ANIMAL CRACKERS (Groucho Marx)
A-43. PACIFIC HEIGHTS
A-44. “This is your law and your finest possession - it makes you free men in a free country. Why have you come here to destroy it? If you know what's good for you, take those weapons home and burn them! And then think... think of this country and of the law that makes it what it is. Think of a world crying for this very law! And maybe you'll understand why you ought to guard it. Why the law has got to be the personal concern of every citizen. To uphold it for your neighbor as well as yourself. Violence against it is one mistake. Another mistake is for any man to look upon the law as just a set of principles. And just so much language printed on fine, heavy paper. Something he recites and then leans back and takes it for granted that justice is automatically being done. Both kinds of men are equally wrong! The law must be engraved in our hearts and practiced every minute to the letter and spirit. It can't even exist unless we're willing to go down into the dust and blood and fight a battle every day of our lives to preserve it. For our neighbor as well as ourselves!”
THE TALK OF THE TOWN
A-45. This was the only Bugs Bunny cartoon to win an Oscar for Best Animated Short Subject.
KNIGHTY-KNIGHT BUGS?
A-46. “Ladies, you have to be strong and independent, and remember, don't get mad, get everything.”
FIRST WIVES CLUB
A-47. STATE OF THE UNION
A-48. “The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over, my son. Now you will find peace.”
THE WOLF MAN
A-49. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
A-50. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (Heath Ledger)

LIST B: ACTORS

B-1. The only time AMPAS ever presented an award after Best Picture was when they gave this screen legend his second honorary Oscar.
CHARLIE CHAPLIN?
B-2. DUSTIN HOFFMAN (Midnight Cowboy)
B-3. SOPHIA LOREN
B-4. WILLEM DAFOE (Shadow of the Vampire)
B-5. RANDOLPH SCOTT
B-6. MAGGIE SMITH (Sister Act)
B-7. Two decades after beating Spencer Tracey for an Oscar, this actor won a Tony for creating a role that would later earn Tracy an Oscar nomination.
PAUL MUNI? FREDRICK MARCH?
B-8. VAL KILMER (Top Secret!)
B-9. JACK HAWKINS
B-10. CHARLIZE THERON (Monster)
B-11. BRUCE DERN
B-12. SID CAESAR (some comedy movie with Sid Caesar)
B-13. ERICH VON STROHEIM
B-14. “I am not her child! She's a bad lady! She tried to sell me to gypsies! Please. Please let the Grandfather take me home. He didn't mean to do anything bad.”
SHIRLEY TEMPLE?
B-15. The shortest distance from Buddy Holly and the Big Bopper to Rodgers and Hammerstein is through this actor.
LOU DIAMOND PHILLIPS?
B-16. “Yeah, I'll fight him. Get my face kicked in. And you come around here. You wanna move in here with me? Come on in! It's a nice house! Real nice. Come on in and move. It stinks! This whole place stinks. You wanna help me out? Well, help me out! Come on, help me out. I'm standin' here!”
MARLON BRANDO?
B-17. DIVINE
B-18. TILDA SWINTON (Michael Clayton)
B-19. Thanks to ill health and the declining popularity of musicals, this dancer’s career consisted of only thirteen films in as many years.
BILL ROBINSON? VERA ELLEN?
B-20. JEFF BRIDGES (Starman)
B-21. HARRY LANGDON
B-22. JENNIFER CONNELLY (House of Sand and Fog)
B-23. ADOLPH MENJOU
B-24. JAMES CAGNEY (Angels with Dirty Faces)
B-25. DANNY DEVITO
B-26. NICOLE KIDMAN (To Die For)
B-27. He made his last movie at the age of 82, the same year he received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the American Film Institute.
FRED ASTAIRE?
B-28. JEFF DANIELS (Purple Rose of Cairo)
B-29. CARY GRANT
B-30. VIGGO MORTENSEN (Lord of the Rings: Return of the King)
B-31. ETHEL BARRYMORE
B-32. “Back to school. Back to school, to prove to Dad that I'm not a fool. I got my lunch packed up, my boots tied tight, I hope I don't get in a fight. Ohhhh, back to school. Back to school. Back to school.”
ADAM SANDLER?
B-33. EWAN MACGREGOR
B-34. HENRY FONDA (Grapes of Wrath)
B-35. MARY TYLER MOORE
B-36. WILL FERRELL (Elf)
B-37. NORMA SHEARER
B-38. TOM CRUISE (Rain Man)
B-39. BRUCE DAVISON
B-40. “During one of my treks through Afghanistan, we lost our corkscrew. Compelled to live on food and water for several days.”
W.C. FIELDS
B-41. He was the youngest actor ever accorded the final spot in the annual Oscar ‘Tribute’ segment.
JAMES DEAN? HEATH LEDGER? RIVER PHOENIX?
B-42. BETTE MIDLER (Ruthless People)
B-43. He made his mark as a handsome continental leading man, but if you grew up when I did, he will forever be that mean old man who wanted to destroy Christmas.
LIONEL BARRYMORE? ALISTAIR SIMS?
B-44. SETH GREEN (Austin Powers)
B-45. CHARLIE CHAPLIN
B-46. HARVEY KEITEL (Pulp Fiction)
B-47. BRIDGET FONDA
B-48. MARLON BRANDO (The Godfather)
B-49. LAURA DERN
B-50. JIMMY STEWART (Vertigo)
Good going, everybody. Almost everything is correct.

Of the movies, two of the 'definite' answers are correct. Since you might be able to make a case for 'She Done Him Wrong,' I will specify that I had a different movie in mind, and it's a pretty famous case. (It's also a much better play.) There are two cases where the correct answer was previously suggested by someone: one has an incorrect answer with a question mark, the other has no answer.

Among the actors, all the definite answers are correct. Of the ones that give one answer with a question mark, all but one are correct. (It will be easy to spot, since it duplicates one of the definities.) Of the ones that give multiple possible answers, all but one include the correct choice as one of the alternatives.

That's all for now.

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#39 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:10 pm

franktangredi wrote:
smilergrogan wrote:Removed clues from definite answers and left in actors who delivered quotes in list A and movies from which quotes in list B were taken, in case those prove to be significant.

Little clue on the Tangredi so far. We have Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, and Val Kilmer was in Real Genius.

Game #119 – All Kinds of Movies

Identify the 50 movies indicated in List A and the 50 actors indicated in List B. (In each list, every other clue is a quotation.) Pair the movies, according to a Tangredi or principle you must discover for yourself. Then, match each pair of movies to a pair of actors.

There’s one tiny element of this puzzle that I’m much less strict about than usual. You will figure it out.

LIST A: MOVIES

A-1. CITY LIGHTS
A-2. NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (Tommy Lee Jones)
A-3. SCHOOL DAZE
A-4. 20000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA (James Mason)
A-5. The stentorian style of this monthly ‘news magazine’ was famously parodied in the opening sequences of an even more famous film.
THE MARCH OF TIME?
A-6. “You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you.”
“You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die.”
THE PRINCESS BRIDE
A-7. THE SEVEN SAMURAI
A-8. “All right, this is it. These crummy aliens stole our parents, it's time to show them what we're made of. We're tough, we're mean. Darn it, we're carbon based life forms. So who's going to kick buttocks?”
JIMMY NEUTRON: BOY GENIUS
A-9. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS
A-10. “I came here to rob you, but unfortunately I fell in love with you.”
TROUBLE IN PARADISE
A-11. I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE
A-12. THE PEOPLE VS. LARRY FLYNT (Woody Harrelson)
A-13. GOING MY WAY
A-14. “You were sitting at the next table. She turned and borrowed the sugar. You must remember.”
“Yes, I recall passing the sugar.”
“Well then, you saw her.”
“I repeat, we were deep in conversation. We were discussing cricket.”
“Well, I don't see how a thing like cricket can make you forget seeing people.”
“Oh, don't you? If that's your attitude, there's nothing more to be said!”
THE LADY VANISHES
A-15. The masterpiece of the second-greatest Soviet filmmaker, its most famous scene depicts the joy of peasants at the arrival of a new tractor. (Did I mention it was Soviet?)

A-16. “One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not yet broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an ear full of cider.”
GUYS AND DOLLS
A-17. REEFER MADNESS
A-18. “No matter how far we traveled on our own separate paths....”
“Somehow we would always find out way back to each other….”
“And with that, we could get through anything.”
“To us. Who we were, and who we are. And who we'll be.”
SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELLING PANTS
A-19. This courtroom drama was the second (and last) film directed by the leading playwright to emerge from the Group Theatre.

A-20. “I'm gonna do to you what my daddy did to me. I'm gonna teach you to HATE spending money. I'm gonna make you so sick of spending money that the mere sight of it will make you wanna throw up!”
BREWSTER'S MILLIONS?
A-21. This medical tearjerker has no relationship whatsoever to a hit song released by Pat Benatar two years later.
WHOSE LIFE IS IT ANYWAY?
A-22. SLEEPER (Woody Allen)
A-23. SHAKE HANDS WITH THE DEVIL
A-24. “We have ways of making men talk.”
LIVES OF A BENGAL LANCER
A-25. SHE DONE HIM WRONG
A-26. “My little brother had not eaten voluntarily in over three years.”
A CHRISTMAS STORY
A-27. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY
A-28. “I can't live without you. And I won't let you live without me.”
SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY
A-29. THE WINDOW
A-30. THERE WILL BE BLOOD (Daniel Day Lewis)
A-31. This Oscar-winning documentary was, appropriately, narrated by the author of ‘Torch Song Trilogy.’
THE CELLULOID CLOSET?
A-32. “I never knew fear until I kissed Becky.”
INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (original)
A-33. KELLY'S HEROES
A-34. PRACTICAL MAGIC (Sandra Bullock)
A-35. This was certainly not the first film whose leading lady was sleeping with its producer, but it was the first one for which she also won an Oscar.

A-36. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END or THE BLACK PEARL (Johnny Depp)
A-37. In this musical, the young star of a musical in one of the preceding clues followed in the footsteps of the first two actresses to ever win Oscars.

A-38. “What'd I do?”
“You killed the car.”
FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF
A-39. This satirical comedy is quite obscure in and of itself, but the suite derived from its score became one of the most popular works of a great 20th century composer

A-40. “Look at it out here, it's all falling apart. I'm erasing you and I'm happy!.”
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND?
A-41. THE GUNS OF NAVARONE
A-42. ANIMAL CRACKERS (Groucho Marx)
A-43. PACIFIC HEIGHTS
A-44. “This is your law and your finest possession - it makes you free men in a free country. Why have you come here to destroy it? If you know what's good for you, take those weapons home and burn them! And then think... think of this country and of the law that makes it what it is. Think of a world crying for this very law! And maybe you'll understand why you ought to guard it. Why the law has got to be the personal concern of every citizen. To uphold it for your neighbor as well as yourself. Violence against it is one mistake. Another mistake is for any man to look upon the law as just a set of principles. And just so much language printed on fine, heavy paper. Something he recites and then leans back and takes it for granted that justice is automatically being done. Both kinds of men are equally wrong! The law must be engraved in our hearts and practiced every minute to the letter and spirit. It can't even exist unless we're willing to go down into the dust and blood and fight a battle every day of our lives to preserve it. For our neighbor as well as ourselves!”
THE TALK OF THE TOWN
A-45. This was the only Bugs Bunny cartoon to win an Oscar for Best Animated Short Subject.
KNIGHTY-KNIGHT BUGS?
A-46. “Ladies, you have to be strong and independent, and remember, don't get mad, get everything.”
FIRST WIVES CLUB
A-47. STATE OF THE UNION
A-48. “The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over, my son. Now you will find peace.”
THE WOLF MAN
A-49. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
A-50. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (Heath Ledger)

LIST B: ACTORS

B-1. The only time AMPAS ever presented an award after Best Picture was when they gave this screen legend his second honorary Oscar.
CHARLIE CHAPLIN?
B-2. DUSTIN HOFFMAN (Midnight Cowboy)
B-3. SOPHIA LOREN
B-4. WILLEM DAFOE (Shadow of the Vampire)
B-5. RANDOLPH SCOTT
B-6. MAGGIE SMITH (Sister Act)
B-7. Two decades after beating Spencer Tracey for an Oscar, this actor won a Tony for creating a role that would later earn Tracy an Oscar nomination.
PAUL MUNI? FREDRICK MARCH?
B-8. VAL KILMER (Top Secret!)
B-9. JACK HAWKINS
B-10. CHARLIZE THERON (Monster)
B-11. BRUCE DERN
B-12. SID CAESAR (some comedy movie with Sid Caesar)
B-13. ERICH VON STROHEIM
B-14. “I am not her child! She's a bad lady! She tried to sell me to gypsies! Please. Please let the Grandfather take me home. He didn't mean to do anything bad.”
SHIRLEY TEMPLE?
B-15. The shortest distance from Buddy Holly and the Big Bopper to Rodgers and Hammerstein is through this actor.
LOU DIAMOND PHILLIPS?
B-16. “Yeah, I'll fight him. Get my face kicked in. And you come around here. You wanna move in here with me? Come on in! It's a nice house! Real nice. Come on in and move. It stinks! This whole place stinks. You wanna help me out? Well, help me out! Come on, help me out. I'm standin' here!”
MARLON BRANDO?
B-17. DIVINE
B-18. TILDA SWINTON (Michael Clayton)
B-19. Thanks to ill health and the declining popularity of musicals, this dancer’s career consisted of only thirteen films in as many years.
BILL ROBINSON? VERA ELLEN?
B-20. JEFF BRIDGES (Starman)
B-21. HARRY LANGDON
B-22. JENNIFER CONNELLY (House of Sand and Fog)
B-23. ADOLPH MENJOU
B-24. JAMES CAGNEY (Angels with Dirty Faces)
B-25. DANNY DEVITO
B-26. NICOLE KIDMAN (To Die For)
B-27. He made his last movie at the age of 82, the same year he received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the American Film Institute.
FRED ASTAIRE?
B-28. JEFF DANIELS (Purple Rose of Cairo)
B-29. CARY GRANT
B-30. VIGGO MORTENSEN (Lord of the Rings: Return of the King)
B-31. ETHEL BARRYMORE
B-32. “Back to school. Back to school, to prove to Dad that I'm not a fool. I got my lunch packed up, my boots tied tight, I hope I don't get in a fight. Ohhhh, back to school. Back to school. Back to school.”
ADAM SANDLER?
B-33. EWAN MACGREGOR
B-34. HENRY FONDA (Grapes of Wrath)
B-35. MARY TYLER MOORE
B-36. WILL FERRELL (Elf)
B-37. NORMA SHEARER
B-38. TOM CRUISE (Rain Man)
B-39. BRUCE DAVISON
B-40. “During one of my treks through Afghanistan, we lost our corkscrew. Compelled to live on food and water for several days.”
W.C. FIELDS
B-41. He was the youngest actor ever accorded the final spot in the annual Oscar ‘Tribute’ segment.
JAMES DEAN? HEATH LEDGER? RIVER PHOENIX?
B-42. BETTE MIDLER (Ruthless People)
B-43. He made his mark as a handsome continental leading man, but if you grew up when I did, he will forever be that mean old man who wanted to destroy Christmas.
LIONEL BARRYMORE? ALISTAIR SIMS?
B-44. SETH GREEN (Austin Powers)
B-45. CHARLIE CHAPLIN
B-46. HARVEY KEITEL (Pulp Fiction)
B-47. BRIDGET FONDA
B-48. MARLON BRANDO (The Godfather)
B-49. LAURA DERN
B-50. JIMMY STEWART (Vertigo)
Good going, everybody. Almost everything is correct.

Of the movies, two of the 'definite' answers are correct. Since you might be able to make a case for 'She Done Him Wrong,' I will specify that I had a different movie in mind, and it's a pretty famous case. (It's also a much better play.) There are two cases where the correct answer was previously suggested by someone: one has an incorrect answer with a question mark, the other has no answer.

Among the actors, all the definite answers are correct. Of the ones that give one answer with a question mark, all but one are correct. (It will be easy to spot, since it duplicates one of the definities.) Of the ones that give multiple possible answers, all but one include the correct choice as one of the alternatives.

That's all for now.
How about The Gay Divorcee?

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#40 Post by Weyoun » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:57 pm

Game #119 – All Kinds of Movies

LIST A: MOVIES
A-15. The masterpiece of the second-greatest Soviet filmmaker, its most famous scene depicts the joy of peasants at the arrival of a new tractor. (Did I mention it was Soviet?)

I answered this earlier: it is THE MAN WITH THE MOVE CAMERA by Vertov

A-19. This courtroom drama was the second (and last) film directed by the leading playwright to emerge from the Group Theatre.

As I said previously, I thought this could be Clifford Odets. It is; it is THE STORY ON PAGE ONE.

A-31. This Oscar-winning documentary was, appropriately, narrated by the author of ‘Torch Song Trilogy.’
THE CELLULOID CLOSET?

I suggested earlier that the answer might be the documentary on Harvey Milk, or the one Stories from the Quilt. It is the former - THE TIMES OF HARVEY MILK

LIST B: ACTORS

B-7. Two decades after beating Spencer Tracey for an Oscar, this actor won a Tony for creating a role that would later earn Tracy an Oscar nomination.
PAUL MUNI? FREDRICK MARCH?

Well, Paul Muni was in the original Inherit the Wind, so I bet it's him.

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#41 Post by franktangredi » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:23 pm

Weyoun wrote:Game #119 – All Kinds of Movies

LIST A: MOVIES
A-15. The masterpiece of the second-greatest Soviet filmmaker, its most famous scene depicts the joy of peasants at the arrival of a new tractor. (Did I mention it was Soviet?)

I answered this earlier: it is THE MAN WITH THE MOVE CAMERA by Vertov
I think this clue might have been too ambiguous. My film prof in college may have had too definite idea about who the second-greatest Soviet director was. But the tractor scene was pretty famous.

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#42 Post by Weyoun » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:53 pm

franktangredi wrote:
Weyoun wrote:Game #119 – All Kinds of Movies

LIST A: MOVIES
A-15. The masterpiece of the second-greatest Soviet filmmaker, its most famous scene depicts the joy of peasants at the arrival of a new tractor. (Did I mention it was Soviet?)

I answered this earlier: it is THE MAN WITH THE MOVE CAMERA by Vertov
I think this clue might have been too ambiguous. My film prof in college may have had too definite idea about who the second-greatest Soviet director was. But the tractor scene was pretty famous.
What about one of the Dovzhenko films (like EARTH)???

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#43 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:38 am

B-19. Thanks to ill health and the declining popularity of musicals, this dancer’s career consisted of only thirteen films in as many years.
BILL ROBINSON? VERA ELLEN?
Robinson did 13 films (although for one of those films, "Cafe Metropole", he ended up on the cutting room floor) between 1929-43. He died six years after his last film.

Vera-Ellen did 14 films from 1945-57, but did retire from show business, rumored to be due to health issues from anorexia.

I'm thinking that Frank wants Robinson on this one because of the exact number of films.

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#44 Post by mellytu74 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:51 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:
B-19. Thanks to ill health and the declining popularity of musicals, this dancer’s career consisted of only thirteen films in as many years.
BILL ROBINSON? VERA ELLEN?
Robinson did 13 films (although for one of those films, "Cafe Metropole", he ended up on the cutting room floor) between 1929-43. He died six years after his last film.

Vera-Ellen did 14 films from 1945-57, but did retire from show business, rumored to be due to health issues from anorexia.

I'm thinking that Frank wants Robinson on this one because of the exact number of films.
I was thinking about this last night and didn't get the chance to post. I think the opposite -- even though I suggested both.

"Declining popularity of musicals" is the key, I think.

There were still tons of musical films when Bill Robinson retired. Wartime musicals, MGM splashy musicals, Fox Technicolor musicals.

Vera Ellen, not so much.

SO I think Frank wants VERA ELLEN because of the timing.

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#45 Post by franktangredi » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:45 am

Weyoun wrote:
franktangredi wrote:
Weyoun wrote:Game #119 – All Kinds of Movies

LIST A: MOVIES
A-15. The masterpiece of the second-greatest Soviet filmmaker, its most famous scene depicts the joy of peasants at the arrival of a new tractor. (Did I mention it was Soviet?)

I answered this earlier: it is THE MAN WITH THE MOVE CAMERA by Vertov
I think this clue might have been too ambiguous. My film prof in college may have had too definite idea about who the second-greatest Soviet director was. But the tractor scene was pretty famous.
What about one of the Dovzhenko films (like EARTH)???
That's the one!

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#46 Post by franktangredi » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:47 am

mellytu74 wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:
B-19. Thanks to ill health and the declining popularity of musicals, this dancer’s career consisted of only thirteen films in as many years.
BILL ROBINSON? VERA ELLEN?
Robinson did 13 films (although for one of those films, "Cafe Metropole", he ended up on the cutting room floor) between 1929-43. He died six years after his last film.

Vera-Ellen did 14 films from 1945-57, but did retire from show business, rumored to be due to health issues from anorexia.

I'm thinking that Frank wants Robinson on this one because of the exact number of films.
I was thinking about this last night and didn't get the chance to post. I think the opposite -- even though I suggested both.

"Declining popularity of musicals" is the key, I think.

There were still tons of musical films when Bill Robinson retired. Wartime musicals, MGM splashy musicals, Fox Technicolor musicals.

Vera Ellen, not so much.

SO I think Frank wants VERA ELLEN because of the timing.
Yes. I rechecked IMDB. Vera-Ellen does have 14 credits listed as an actress, but one of them was a television appearance. So 13 films is correct.

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#47 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:58 am

franktangredi wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote: Robinson did 13 films (although for one of those films, "Cafe Metropole", he ended up on the cutting room floor) between 1929-43. He died six years after his last film.

Vera-Ellen did 14 films from 1945-57, but did retire from show business, rumored to be due to health issues from anorexia.

I'm thinking that Frank wants Robinson on this one because of the exact number of films.
I was thinking about this last night and didn't get the chance to post. I think the opposite -- even though I suggested both.

"Declining popularity of musicals" is the key, I think.

There were still tons of musical films when Bill Robinson retired. Wartime musicals, MGM splashy musicals, Fox Technicolor musicals.

Vera Ellen, not so much.

SO I think Frank wants VERA ELLEN because of the timing.
Yes. I rechecked IMDB. Vera-Ellen does have 14 credits listed as an actress, but one of them was a television appearance. So 13 films is correct.
I stand corrected.

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Re: Game #119 New Consolidation

#48 Post by Weyoun » Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:48 pm

franktangredi wrote:
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franktangredi wrote: I think this clue might have been too ambiguous. My film prof in college may have had too definite idea about who the second-greatest Soviet director was. But the tractor scene was pretty famous.
What about one of the Dovzhenko films (like EARTH)???
That's the one!
Excellent! Never seen that one (obviously), but probably should add it to the list.

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#49 Post by Weyoun » Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:03 pm

A-35. This was certainly not the first film whose leading lady was sleeping with its producer, but it was the first one for which she also won an Oscar.

Norma Shearer was married to Irving Thalberg around the time she won for THE DIVORCEE. Did Thalberg produce this film?

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#50 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:02 pm

Weyoun wrote:A-35. This was certainly not the first film whose leading lady was sleeping with its producer, but it was the first one for which she also won an Oscar.

Norma Shearer was married to Irving Thalberg around the time she won for THE DIVORCEE. Did Thalberg produce this film?
That would make sense. Thalberg had a hand in almost all of MGM's movies of the period and he was notorious for keeping his name off the credits.

Shearer's Oscar was the third Best Actress Oscar winner, after Gaynor and Pickford.

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