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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#26 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:01 pm

Estonut wrote:
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So despite the desire of everybody in the world to post pictures of themselves all the time, ...
How many have YOU posted? Where are they? By your logic, YOU don't exist!
Well, I don't seem to have access to everyone's personal pictures like you do.
Try and do a search. All you will find is the leftist narrative. They do a real good job flooding the internet. That's their number one job, other than making up the lies to flood it with. Like there's a republican civil war when the dems are actually the ones falling apart.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#27 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:25 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:01 pm
Estonut wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:39 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:15 pm
So despite the desire of everybody in the world to post pictures of themselves all the time, ...
How many have YOU posted? Where are they? By your logic, YOU don't exist!
Well, I don't seem to have access to everyone's personal pictures like you do.
Try and do a search. All you will find is the leftist narrative. They do a real good job flooding the internet. That's their number one job, other than making up the lies to flood it with. Like there's a republican civil war when the dems are actually the ones falling apart.
Translation:

Flock and Esto couldn't find anything.

If, in the words of Donald Trump, "[Y]ou had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly." You would think that of all those many people, some of them would have posted pictures of themselves. You would think that Fox News and the other right-wing news organizations would have shot videos of these "very fine people" to rebut all the ugly claims. You would think that websites like Flock's buddies at the Gateway Pundit would have posted some of those pictures of "very fine people." But they didn't. Because the "very fine people" weren't there. The white nationalists and neo-Nazis and Proud Boys and similar groups made it widely known that they were going to be there and anyone who didn't want to associate with them was smart enough to stay away.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#28 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:11 pm

This thread has diverged from my original post.

The question is: Is there going to be a fatal schism between supporters of TFG and the traditional Republicans, e.g. Pence?
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#29 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:33 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:11 pm
This thread has diverged from my original post.

The question is: Is there going to be a fatal schism between supporters of TFG and the traditional Republicans, e.g. Pence?
A new poll today from Echelon Insights, a Republican polling firm, showed that Democrats were ahead of Republicans 49-42% in the generic Congressional poll (If the election in your district were held today, which candidate would you vote for). Another poll this week from them showed both Biden and Kamala Harris beating Trump and Ron DeSantis in a hypothetical 2024 election. Further, the most recent polls in various states show J.D. Vance, Dr. Oz, and Herschel Walker losing their Senate races. Lose all three of these races and there's a very good chance the Democrats expand their majority in the Senate next year. It boils down to three issues:

1) Abortion
2) Gun violence
3) Jan. 6, election denial, and Trumpism (these are all interconnected)

A majority of Americans support the Democratic stance on these issues (not to mention climate change which is racheting up in recent days). That could be enough t overcome Republican attacks on Biden and blame for inflation.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#30 Post by earendel » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:43 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:33 am
A new poll today from Echelon Insights, a Republican polling firm, showed that Democrats were ahead of Republicans 49-42% in the generic Congressional poll (If the election in your district were held today, which candidate would you vote for). Another poll this week from them showed both Biden and Kamala Harris beating Trump and Ron DeSantis in a hypothetical 2024 election. Further, the most recent polls in various states show J.D. Vance, Dr. Oz, and Herschel Walker losing their Senate races. Lose all three of these races and there's a very good chance the Democrats expand their majority in the Senate next year. It boils down to three issues:

1) Abortion
2) Gun violence
3) Jan. 6, election denial, and Trumpism (these are all interconnected)

A majority of Americans support the Democratic stance on these issues (not to mention climate change which is racheting up in recent days). That could be enough t overcome Republican attacks on Biden and blame for inflation.
Granted that it's a small sample and I don't know their political leanings (we work for the Federal government and there's that Hatch Act) but the people in my office are more concerned about inflation than any of the things you mention. That sample includes a number of women of child-bearing years, if that matters. The three things you mention may energize the Democratic base, and the abortion issue may bring some Republican women along, but Biden's approval ratings are terribly underwater and it's hard to imagine that there's anything he can do at this point.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#31 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:40 am

earendel wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:43 am
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:33 am
A new poll today from Echelon Insights, a Republican polling firm, showed that Democrats were ahead of Republicans 49-42% in the generic Congressional poll (If the election in your district were held today, which candidate would you vote for). Another poll this week from them showed both Biden and Kamala Harris beating Trump and Ron DeSantis in a hypothetical 2024 election. Further, the most recent polls in various states show J.D. Vance, Dr. Oz, and Herschel Walker losing their Senate races. Lose all three of these races and there's a very good chance the Democrats expand their majority in the Senate next year. It boils down to three issues:

1) Abortion
2) Gun violence
3) Jan. 6, election denial, and Trumpism (these are all interconnected)

A majority of Americans support the Democratic stance on these issues (not to mention climate change which is racheting up in recent days). That could be enough t overcome Republican attacks on Biden and blame for inflation.
Granted that it's a small sample and I don't know their political leanings (we work for the Federal government and there's that Hatch Act) but the people in my office are more concerned about inflation than any of the things you mention. That sample includes a number of women of child-bearing years, if that matters. The three things you mention may energize the Democratic base, and the abortion issue may bring some Republican women along, but Biden's approval ratings are terribly underwater and it's hard to imagine that there's anything he can do at this point.
Biden's approval ratings are still bad, and inflation and the economy are still the top concerns for most people. This poll may be an outlier, but there are a significant number of people who aren't sure that Republicans will do a better job in combating inflation. Blaming inflation on Democratic spending bills (most of which the Republicans went along with) doesn't seem to be anything but a rehashing of the old Republican campaign against tax-and-spend.

I'm not saying that it's going to be easy for Democrats, but the more time that Republicans talk about stolen elections, the better it is. And that's why the sensible side of the Republican party, people like Mitch McConnell who knows what it takes to win power, want to put these Trumpists far behind them, but without turning them off as far as voting in general (that's what cost the Republicans the two Georgia Senate seats).
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#32 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:51 am

BackInTex wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:32 pm
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Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:29 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:11 pm


Because your definition of "fine people" is "those that agree with me".
No, my definition is people who came to conduct a peaceful demonstration in support of the Confederate statues. I've yet to find one such person. I have asked Flock this question several times and he's ignored me. Right wingers keep saying there were peaceful protestors, but there doesn't seem to be any record of them.
That's BS. There were a lot of folks standing peacefully (much more so than the peaceful you say the BLM protests were).

Who should be making a 'record' of peaceful protesters? And more importantly, why do you think someone should?
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#33 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:54 am

earendel wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:43 am
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:33 am
A new poll today from Echelon Insights, a Republican polling firm, showed that Democrats were ahead of Republicans 49-42% in the generic Congressional poll (If the election in your district were held today, which candidate would you vote for). Another poll this week from them showed both Biden and Kamala Harris beating Trump and Ron DeSantis in a hypothetical 2024 election. Further, the most recent polls in various states show J.D. Vance, Dr. Oz, and Herschel Walker losing their Senate races. Lose all three of these races and there's a very good chance the Democrats expand their majority in the Senate next year. It boils down to three issues:

1) Abortion
2) Gun violence
3) Jan. 6, election denial, and Trumpism (these are all interconnected)

A majority of Americans support the Democratic stance on these issues (not to mention climate change which is racheting up in recent days). That could be enough t overcome Republican attacks on Biden and blame for inflation.
Granted that it's a small sample and I don't know their political leanings (we work for the Federal government and there's that Hatch Act) but the people in my office are more concerned about inflation than any of the things you mention. That sample includes a number of women of child-bearing years, if that matters. The three things you mention may energize the Democratic base, and the abortion issue may bring some Republican women along, but Biden's approval ratings are terribly underwater and it's hard to imagine that there's anything he can do at this point.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#34 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:55 am

BackInTex wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:19 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:20 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:33 am
Results of the Maryland primary last night confirm that the Republican Party (as a whole) has been captured by its extreme right wing. Its nominee for Governor is bad enough. Look at who they nominated to be Attorney General.

There is no Democrat nominated for national or statewide office anywhere who is remotely comparable to those two. --Bob
You just get more laughable every day. Seriously.
Technically he is correct. They are all currently in office.
There's that.
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#35 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:05 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:51 am
Who should be making a 'record' of peaceful protesters? And more importantly, why do you think someone should?
Who should be making a "record of peaceful protesters"?

Themselves.

They make records of themselves when they go to concerts and ball games and vacations and school events and restaurants and walks in the park and Donald Trump rallies. People love to take selfies and post them on social media. They also take selfies and videos of what's going on around them. If what Trumpists are saying is true, then many of the people at the rally were "very fine people" and there would be plenty of photos and video of them. This Charlottesville protest was a big event in many of their lives so you would think they'd want a record of that for their friends and relatives to see. The January 6 protestors certainly weren't shy about posting selfies. From ABC News:
ABC News' chief investigative reporter Josh Margolin appeared on ABC News’ daily podcast “Start Here” to discuss his team’s reporting on how authorities used social media, cell phone tracking and more to identify and arrest dozens of protesters who were at the Capitol Wednesday. Social media played a huge role in law enforcement tracking these protesters down. Many rioters posted on various platforms throughout the chaos, sharing images and video of themselves and the people with them.
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/capit ... d=75177672

Remember this? Who do you think took that photo of Herman Cain at the Tulsa rally where he probably caught COVID? It wasn't police or Democratic operatives or undercover newspaper photographers. It was someone who got Cain to pose for them and then he posted it on his Twitter account.

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#36 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:18 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:05 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:51 am
Who should be making a 'record' of peaceful protesters? And more importantly, why do you think someone should?
Who should be making a "record of peaceful protesters"?

Themselves.

They make records of themselves when they go to concerts and ball games and vacations and school events and restaurants and walks in the park and Donald Trump rallies. People love to take selfies and post them on social media. They also take selfies and videos of what's going on around them. If what Trumpists are saying is true, then many of the people at the rally were "very fine people" and there would be plenty of photos and video of them. This Charlottesville protest was a big event in many of their lives so you would think they'd want a record of that for their friends and relatives to see. The January 6 protestors certainly weren't shy about posting selfies. From ABC News:
ABC News' chief investigative reporter Josh Margolin appeared on ABC News’ daily podcast “Start Here” to discuss his team’s reporting on how authorities used social media, cell phone tracking and more to identify and arrest dozens of protesters who were at the Capitol Wednesday. Social media played a huge role in law enforcement tracking these protesters down. Many rioters posted on various platforms throughout the chaos, sharing images and video of themselves and the people with them.
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/capit ... d=75177672

If what you 'know' about others was even .001 correct, you wouldn't sound so incredibly ignorant.
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#37 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:37 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:18 am
If what you 'know' about others was even .001 correct, you wouldn't sound so incredibly ignorant.
These figures are from a survey taken in February, 2017, so they're fairly close to what the results were at the time of the Charlottesville rally. According to Statista, 62% of the adult population had uploaded a selfie to social media and 82% of those 18-34. https://www.statista.com/statistics/304 ... eneration/

If you would do a bit of basic research before reacting with a quick snarky remark, you wouldn't be proved wrong so incredibly easily.
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#38 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:25 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:37 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:18 am
If what you 'know' about others was even .001 correct, you wouldn't sound so incredibly ignorant.
These figures are from a survey taken in February, 2017, so they're fairly close to what the results were at the time of the Charlottesville rally. According to Statista, 62% of the adult population had uploaded a selfie to social media and 82% of those 18-34. https://www.statista.com/statistics/304 ... eneration/

If you would do a bit of basic research before reacting with a quick snarky remark, you wouldn't be proved wrong so incredibly easily.
Because surveys = fact? No wonder you're so easily led.
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#39 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:31 am

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Because surveys = fact? No wonder you're so easily led.
That was the first one I found. There are many, many, many, many, many, many articles in scientific and medical journals as well as business sites and general information sites about the widespread prevalence of people posting selfies, including why they do it.

Your refusal to accept overwhelming evidence is one reason you're so easily led.
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#40 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:39 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:25 am
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:37 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:18 am
If what you 'know' about others was even .001 correct, you wouldn't sound so incredibly ignorant.
These figures are from a survey taken in February, 2017, so they're fairly close to what the results were at the time of the Charlottesville rally. According to Statista, 62% of the adult population had uploaded a selfie to social media and 82% of those 18-34. https://www.statista.com/statistics/304 ... eneration/

If you would do a bit of basic research before reacting with a quick snarky remark, you wouldn't be proved wrong so incredibly easily.
Because surveys = fact? No wonder you're so easily led.
Oh yes, of course.
Where are all the photos of people who weren't Antifa thugs?

Now if there was a local woke clownfest to take down some statue here, I would definitely go to it to protest and see what was going on. When I got there and saw a bunch of extreme right wing whackos, I would not go near them. If there were fights, I might take a few pictures before I got the hell away from the assholes doing it. If I were to post any pictures anywhere, that's what I would post. But I probably wouldn't. But the Legacy, biased media, that is ALL they covered. Any possible search you can do about Charlottesville, that is ALL you will see. The violence and the terrible aftermath. All about White Supremecists. Not much about antifa.

After what happened, do you think any sane person would post anything saying 'Hey, I was a Charlottesville protesting the removal of the statue!!!'. Especially if they were conservative. Do you think we do NOT know how the leftist power and social media 'police' structure operates? I put something like that on facebook, I stand a good chance of getting doxxed, or getting a permanent facebook stalker, like I have here. I have personal experience with that, which is why I NEVER post anything political on Facebook or anywhere else but here.

If you bothered to look at my links, there's a quote from someone who did travel to the rally to protest the statue removal and was appalled. But of course, that's a lie. I had another link, which I did not post, that included a man who was there who was interviewed saying there were the radical groups, right-wing and left-wing extremist agitators, at the front confronting each other, and about a thousand people who gathered behind them at a distance who were not involved at all with the violence. He said these non-participants in the violence were behind BOTH sides. But he must be a liar as well, of course. There could not possibly be anyone who did not want the statue to be removed for woke and PC reasons who was not there to participate in violence or was not a white racist, right, stalker? Because anyone who does not agree with you fully and completely, that is what they are.

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#41 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:46 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:39 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:25 am
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:37 am


These figures are from a survey taken in February, 2017, so they're fairly close to what the results were at the time of the Charlottesville rally. According to Statista, 62% of the adult population had uploaded a selfie to social media and 82% of those 18-34. https://www.statista.com/statistics/304 ... eneration/

If you would do a bit of basic research before reacting with a quick snarky remark, you wouldn't be proved wrong so incredibly easily.
Because surveys = fact? No wonder you're so easily led.
Oh yes, of course.
Where are all the photos of people who weren't Antifa thugs?

Now if there was a local woke clownfest to take down some statue here, I would definitely go to it to protest and see what was going on. When I got there and saw a bunch of extreme right wing whackos, I would not go near them. If there were fights, I might take a few pictures before I got the hell away from the assholes doing it. If I were to post any pictures anywhere, that's what I would post. But I probably wouldn't. But the Legacy, biased media, that is ALL they covered. Any possible search you can do about Charlottesville, that is ALL you will see. The violence and the terrible aftermath. All about White Supremecists. Not much about antifa.

After what happened, do you think any sane person would post anything saying 'Hey, I was a Charlottesville protesting the removal of the statue!!!'. Especially if they were conservative. Do you think we do NOT know how the leftist power and social media 'police' structure operates? I put something like that on facebook, I stand a good chance of getting doxxed, or getting a permanent facebook stalker, like I have here. I have personal experience with that, which is why I NEVER post anything political on Facebook or anywhere else but here.

If you bothered to look at my links, there's a quote from someone who did travel to the rally to protest the statue removal and was appalled. But of course, that's a lie. I had another link, which I did not post, that included a man who was there who was interviewed saying there were the radical groups, right-wing and left-wing extremist agitators, at the front confronting each other, and about a thousand people who gathered behind them at a distance who were not involved at all with the violence. He said these non-participants in the violence were behind BOTH sides. But he must be a liar as well, of course. There could not possibly be anyone who did not want the statue to be removed for woke and PC reasons who was not there to participate in violence or was not a white racist, right, stalker? Because anyone who does not agree with you fully and completely, that is what they are.

Keep being a blind useful idiot, stalker. That is all you will ever be.
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#42 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:13 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:46 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:39 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:25 am


Because surveys = fact? No wonder you're so easily led.
Oh yes, of course.
Where are all the photos of people who weren't Antifa thugs?

Now if there was a local woke clownfest to take down some statue here, I would definitely go to it to protest and see what was going on. When I got there and saw a bunch of extreme right wing whackos, I would not go near them. If there were fights, I might take a few pictures before I got the hell away from the assholes doing it. If I were to post any pictures anywhere, that's what I would post. But I probably wouldn't. But the Legacy, biased media, that is ALL they covered. Any possible search you can do about Charlottesville, that is ALL you will see. The violence and the terrible aftermath. All about White Supremecists. Not much about antifa.

After what happened, do you think any sane person would post anything saying 'Hey, I was a Charlottesville protesting the removal of the statue!!!'. Especially if they were conservative. Do you think we do NOT know how the leftist power and social media 'police' structure operates? I put something like that on facebook, I stand a good chance of getting doxxed, or getting a permanent facebook stalker, like I have here. I have personal experience with that, which is why I NEVER post anything political on Facebook or anywhere else but here.

If you bothered to look at my links, there's a quote from someone who did travel to the rally to protest the statue removal and was appalled. But of course, that's a lie. I had another link, which I did not post, that included a man who was there who was interviewed saying there were the radical groups, right-wing and left-wing extremist agitators, at the front confronting each other, and about a thousand people who gathered behind them at a distance who were not involved at all with the violence. He said these non-participants in the violence were behind BOTH sides. But he must be a liar as well, of course. There could not possibly be anyone who did not want the statue to be removed for woke and PC reasons who was not there to participate in violence or was not a white racist, right, stalker? Because anyone who does not agree with you fully and completely, that is what they are.

Keep being a blind useful idiot, stalker. That is all you will ever be.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#43 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:24 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:39 am
Oh yes, of course.
Where are all the photos of people who weren't Antifa thugs?

Now if there was a local woke clownfest to take down some statue here, I would definitely go to it to protest and see what was going on. When I got there and saw a bunch of extreme right wing whackos, I would not go near them. If there were fights, I might take a few pictures before I got the hell away from the assholes doing it. If I were to post any pictures anywhere, that's what I would post. But I probably wouldn't. But the Legacy, biased media, that is ALL they covered. Any possible search you can do about Charlottesville, that is ALL you will see. The violence and the terrible aftermath. All about White Supremecists. Not much about antifa.
So what it boils down to is lots of excuses and no documentary evidence of "very fine people" at the protest. Self-serving, after-the-fact claims aren't the same thing as proof of who was actually there. Now I don't doubt that there were some decent people who may have wanted to get involved, but once they saw who was actually protesting, they gave the protest a wide berth. And Donald Trump and other right-wingers weren't talking about people who thought about going; they were talking about the actual protestors. And that's the Klan and the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers and the neo-Nazis and the other white supremacists. No very fine people there. And there's plenty of photographic evidence of the counterprotestors. Here's a few of them.

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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#44 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:32 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:39 am
After what happened, do you think any sane person would post anything saying 'Hey, I was a Charlottesville protesting the removal of the statue!!!'. Especially if they were conservative. Do you think we do NOT know how the leftist power and social media 'police' structure operates? I put something like that on facebook, I stand a good chance of getting doxxed, or getting a permanent facebook stalker, like I have here. I have personal experience with that, which is why I NEVER post anything political on Facebook or anywhere else but here. Keep being a blind useful idiot, stalker. That is all you will ever be.
Hundreds of people posted photos and videos of themselves at the January 6 insurrection. I'll bet you that bunches of people post photos of themselves at Trump rallies and other protests. These pictures are a badge of honor for them. And people should have been happy to post things to counter the left-wing narrative about the people at the Charlottesville rally. But they didn't.

Do you think that if some liberal columnist wrote an article after Trump's Tulsa rally saying that the only people there were a bunch of white nationalist racists that Herman Cain and the other blacks of the crowd would have had a field day posting their photos and Gateway Pundit would have yukked it up for weeks. Conservatives aren't shy about social media. Look at how many followers their sites have.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#45 Post by wbtravis007 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:48 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:24 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:39 am
Oh yes, of course.
Where are all the photos of people who weren't Antifa thugs?

Now if there was a local woke clownfest to take down some statue here, I would definitely go to it to protest and see what was going on. When I got there and saw a bunch of extreme right wing whackos, I would not go near them. If there were fights, I might take a few pictures before I got the hell away from the assholes doing it. If I were to post any pictures anywhere, that's what I would post. But I probably wouldn't. But the Legacy, biased media, that is ALL they covered. Any possible search you can do about Charlottesville, that is ALL you will see. The violence and the terrible aftermath. All about White Supremecists. Not much about antifa.
So what it boils down to is lots of excuses and no documentary evidence of "very fine people" at the protest. Self-serving, after-the-fact claims aren't the same thing as proof of who was actually there. Now I don't doubt that there were some decent people who may have wanted to get involved, but once they saw who was actually protesting, they gave the protest a wide berth. And Donald Trump and other right-wingers weren't talking about people who thought about going; they were talking about the actual protestors. And that's the Klan and the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers and the neo-Nazis and the other white supremacists. No very fine people there. And there's plenty of photographic evidence of the death counterprotestors. Here's a few of them.

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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#46 Post by wbtravis007 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:55 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:32 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:39 am
After what happened, do you think any sane person would post anything saying 'Hey, I was a Charlottesville protesting the removal of the statue!!!'. Especially if they were conservative. Do you think we do NOT know how the leftist power and social media 'police' structure operates? I put something like that on facebook, I stand a good chance of getting doxxed, or getting a permanent facebook stalker, like I have here. I have personal experience with that, which is why I NEVER post anything political on Facebook or anywhere else but here. Keep being a blind useful idiot, stalker. That is all you will ever be.
Hundreds of people posted photos and videos of themselves at the January 6 insurrection. I'll bet you that bunches of people post photos of themselves at Trump rallies and other protests. These pictures are a badge of honor for them. And people should have been happy to post things to counter the left-wing narrative about the people at the Charlottesville rally. But they didn't.

Do you think that if some liberal columnist wrote an article after Trump's Tulsa rally saying that the only people there were a bunch of white nationalist racists that Herman Cain and the other blacks of the crowd would have had a field day posting their photos and Gateway Pundit would have yukked it up for weeks. Conservatives aren't shy about social media. Look at how many followers their sites have.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#47 Post by jarnon » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:33 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:33 am
jarnon wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:23 am
BackInTex wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:03 am
Or would that have invaded (that IS a given) had there been someone else in the White House? Opinions will differ on that.
You're correct that it's just a few fringe Republicans.

Mitch McConnell: Republicans who support Putin ‘lonely voices’ in party

I'm relieved to know that. (Democrats have their oddballs too.) And there are valid differences of opinion on how Biden's responding.
Results of the Maryland primary last night confirm that the Republican Party (as a whole) has been captured by its extreme right wing. Its nominee for Governor is bad enough. Look at who they nominated to be Attorney General.

There is no Democrat nominated for national or statewide office anywhere who is remotely comparable to those two. --Bob
You should see the GOP candidate for governor here in Pennsylvania.

Luckily, Maryland and Pennsylvania aren't Kentucky. They have a history of electing moderates from both parties and rejecting extremists. Attorney General Shapiro is expected to defeat Mastriano, and then his replacement as AG will be a Democratic nominee.

A group of Pennsylvania Jewish Republicans have criticized Mastriano for frequenting an extremist social media platform called Gab. (That could be just supporting our own kind.)
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#48 Post by Spock » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:36 am

It cracks me up that the "March in Lockstep" Democrats here are running a long thread on the differences between moderate and conservative Republicans and calling it a "Civil War."

These fools couldn't recognize differences in opinion if it bit them in the ass.

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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#49 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:47 am

Spock wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:36 am
These fools couldn't recognize differences in opinion if it bit them in the ass.
The "opinion" on which these Republicans differ in many cases is whether the 2020 election was stolen. There's also plenty of squabbling among Democrats right now about how hard to push the progressive agenda. They are a party that features both Joe Manchin and AOC. Hardly lock step there.
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Re: Is there a Republican Civil War?

#50 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:24 am

jarnon wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:33 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:33 am
jarnon wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:23 am
You're correct that it's just a few fringe Republicans.

Mitch McConnell: Republicans who support Putin ‘lonely voices’ in party

I'm relieved to know that. (Democrats have their oddballs too.) And there are valid differences of opinion on how Biden's responding.
Results of the Maryland primary last night confirm that the Republican Party (as a whole) has been captured by its extreme right wing. Its nominee for Governor is bad enough. Look at who they nominated to be Attorney General.

There is no Democrat nominated for national or statewide office anywhere who is remotely comparable to those two. --Bob
You should see the GOP candidate for governor here in Pennsylvania.

Luckily, Maryland and Pennsylvania aren't Kentucky. They have a history of electing moderates from both parties and rejecting extremists. Attorney General Shapiro is expected to defeat Mastriano, and then his replacement as AG will be a Democratic nominee.

A group of Pennsylvania Jewish Republicans have criticized Mastriano for frequenting an extremist social media platform called Gab. (That could be just supporting our own kind.)
Have you ever wondered who gets to decide that this or that 'social media' group is extremist?
From another perspective, twitter, facebook, youtube, even google are extremist because of their censoring and canceling of conservative views.
Probably you haven't wondered......
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