Yes, but I'm being picky about the difference between a network show and a syndicated show aired on a network station. So, there!Appa23 wrote:Marley, didja notice that peacock on the top of the WOWT page?MarleysGh0st wrote:Here's a short article about Matt's appearance.
http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/58169282.html
BTW, WOWT, she's really only "NBC’s Meredith Vieira" when she's on the Today Show.
In Omaha, she always is NBC's Meredith.
Yes, I've seen a Subway ad. No, I've never noticed Ryan Howard as the spokesman.mellytu74 wrote:So, you've never seen a commercial for Subway, the sandwich chain, then? Ryan Howard is its spokesman. There are national commercials with him and Jared. His name is on the screen.
Sorry, chad.chad1m wrote:Yes, I've seen a Subway ad. No, I've never noticed Ryan Howard as the spokesman.mellytu74 wrote:So, you've never seen a commercial for Subway, the sandwich chain, then? Ryan Howard is its spokesman. There are national commercials with him and Jared. His name is on the screen.
"Piss-poor excuse?" Aren't we getting a bit haughty over a lil' ol' game show?
Remember: Everyone acquires his or her knowledge differently.
-- because the question WASN"T about The Office.
I'm glad you clarified, Mel, because I was shocked that you would be so Philly-centric as to think that anybody who didn't know who Ryan Howard was just had a piss poor excuse.mellytu74 wrote:Sorry, chad.chad1m wrote:Yes, I've seen a Subway ad. No, I've never noticed Ryan Howard as the spokesman.mellytu74 wrote:So, you've never seen a commercial for Subway, the sandwich chain, then? Ryan Howard is its spokesman. There are national commercials with him and Jared. His name is on the screen.
"Piss-poor excuse?" Aren't we getting a bit haughty over a lil' ol' game show?
Remember: Everyone acquires his or her knowledge differently.
I should have put a transition phrase in there.
The piss-poor excuse comment wasn't directed toward you. It was directed toward bad PAF selection.
If you know your strengths and weaknesses, you should use your PAFs to fill them. I think we've all thought that for 10 years.
It just distresses me to see something like this happen -- even if it's NOT a BB
It was about the National League MVP in 2006.
It's a sports question disguised as a TV question and we've all seen Hot Seaters who have been able to cut to the chase and ask the right PAF the essence of the question.
Sorry for the confusion.
Any excuse?Southpaw Fanny wrote:I do agree that any excuse for not having a sports PAF is a piss poor one, especially if you don't follow pro sports simply because you don't have any local ones.
Note that I said "especially if you don't follow sports".MarleysGh0st wrote:Any excuse?Southpaw Fanny wrote:I do agree that any excuse for not having a sports PAF is a piss poor one, especially if you don't follow pro sports simply because you don't have any local ones.
How about:
1. You're only allowed three PAFs to cover all possible categories of questions.
2. Medium to high level sports questions are rare on WWTBAM.
3. Google PAFs can generally cover the occasional sports question, along with most others.
You could pick three people blindly off the street and I bet you one of them would know the answer to that question, considering the fact that only one of the choices is even the name of a Major League Baseball player, and a rather famous one at that (If even Fanny has some familiarity with him, and he played after 1986, he MUST be famous!).....MarleysGh0st wrote:Any excuse?Southpaw Fanny wrote:I do agree that any excuse for not having a sports PAF is a piss poor one, especially if you don't follow pro sports simply because you don't have any local ones.
How about:
1. You're only allowed three PAFs to cover all possible categories of questions.
2. Medium to high level sports questions are rare on WWTBAM.
3. Google PAFs can generally cover the occasional sports question, along with most others.
Exactly! It's not difficult to get someone who knows a lot of stuff that includes sports. It's not like you need to get an expert on Greek red-figure vases, even if they know absolutely nothing else useful.littlebeast13 wrote:You could pick three people blindly off the street and I bet you one of them would know the answer to that question, considering the fact that only one of the choices is even the name of a Major League Baseball player, and a rather famous one at that (If even Fanny has some familiarity with him, and he played after 1986, he MUST be famous!).....MarleysGh0st wrote:Any excuse?Southpaw Fanny wrote:I do agree that any excuse for not having a sports PAF is a piss poor one, especially if you don't follow pro sports simply because you don't have any local ones.
How about:
1. You're only allowed three PAFs to cover all possible categories of questions.
2. Medium to high level sports questions are rare on WWTBAM.
3. Google PAFs can generally cover the occasional sports question, along with most others.
And sports is enough of a trivia vein that if I didn't know anything about it, you better damn well bet I'd have a PAF who did. I'm sure it's not hard to find a sports fan who also has different areas of expertise......
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Southpaw Fanny wrote:And ha! I had to go back and really look again because I was wondering how Sprots knew about my 1986 thing.....
Yes- you need to find three PAFs who have strong areas of expertise, but also passing familiarity with many other areas as well.littlebeast13 wrote:You could pick three people blindly off the street and I bet you one of them would know the answer to that question, considering the fact that only one of the choices is even the name of a Major League Baseball player, and a rather famous one at that (If even Fanny has some familiarity with him, and he played after 1986, he MUST be famous!).....MarleysGh0st wrote:Any excuse?Southpaw Fanny wrote:I do agree that any excuse for not having a sports PAF is a piss poor one, especially if you don't follow pro sports simply because you don't have any local ones.
How about:
1. You're only allowed three PAFs to cover all possible categories of questions.
2. Medium to high level sports questions are rare on WWTBAM.
3. Google PAFs can generally cover the occasional sports question, along with most others.
And sports is enough of a trivia vein that if I didn't know anything about it, you better damn well bet I'd have a PAF who did. I'm sure it's not hard to find a sports fan who also has different areas of expertise......
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Oh no, now that I know where to look, leave it up!littlebeast13 wrote:Southpaw Fanny wrote:And ha! I had to go back and really look again because I was wondering how Sprots knew about my 1986 thing.....
Sorry for the confusion, but I have to leave it up until she sees it........
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Just a few points of clarification:Southpaw Fanny wrote:
Plus this cat had a really good excuse, he lives in Nebraska! Besides the ad probably not getting a lot of play there, they don't even have any pro teams in their state to follow. They're stuck with KC teams, and they only have two (both of which could be argued aren't "real" pro teams, either. Ha!)
) Southpaw Fanny wrote:Oh no, now that I know where to look, leave it up!littlebeast13 wrote:Southpaw Fanny wrote:And ha! I had to go back and really look again because I was wondering how Sprots knew about my 1986 thing.....
Sorry for the confusion, but I have to leave it up until she sees it........
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Spoiler
He's going to get a nasty burn if he doesn't wear his sun hat like Matias is, though....
In defense of Sittel, he really only had 2 PAF slots to fill. As his wife could not go with hinm, he likely felt that he had to include her as one of the three (if for no other reason than that chance to do a "Carpenter call".) It is one way that the drop from 5 PAFs to 3 really has a big negative impact on some hot seaters.Jeemie wrote:Yes- you need to find three PAFs who have strong areas of expertise, but also passing familiarity with many other areas as well.littlebeast13 wrote:You could pick three people blindly off the street and I bet you one of them would know the answer to that question, considering the fact that only one of the choices is even the name of a Major League Baseball player, and a rather famous one at that (If even Fanny has some familiarity with him, and he played after 1986, he MUST be famous!).....MarleysGh0st wrote:
Any excuse?
How about:
1. You're only allowed three PAFs to cover all possible categories of questions.
2. Medium to high level sports questions are rare on WWTBAM.
3. Google PAFs can generally cover the occasional sports question, along with most others.
And sports is enough of a trivia vein that if I didn't know anything about it, you better damn well bet I'd have a PAF who did. I'm sure it's not hard to find a sports fan who also has different areas of expertise......
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And if you can get their knowledge bases to be as non-overlapping as possible, that would also be great.
A daunting task, but not impossible.
You'll never cover all the holes...but you need to cover as many as possible.
I'm not interested enough in him to read his website, I was going strictly from what people had written in their posts.Appa23 wrote:Just a few points of clarification:Southpaw Fanny wrote:
Plus this cat had a really good excuse, he lives in Nebraska! Besides the ad probably not getting a lot of play there, they don't even have any pro teams in their state to follow. They're stuck with KC teams, and they only have two (both of which could be argued aren't "real" pro teams, either. Ha!)
1. From reading his website, Sittel has not lived in Nebraska that long. He previously lived in the Southeast.
2. There are about 500,000 people living in the Metro Omaha area. I am guessing that a majority of them could tell you that Howard was the only baseball player listed, that he was the 2006 NL MVP, and that he plays for the Phillies (as did Richie Ashburn!), despite the fact that we only have a AAA baseball team (plus the home of the CWS). In addition, we love sports in Nebraska, which is the reason why we hold so many sports events here. Baseball only trails football in viewing popularity.
3. Kansas City has three pro teams (Chiefs, Royals, and Wizards). Yes, only one is any good.
4. Omaha has had a professional, top level sports team. As a youth, I went to several games.
If you go back and read Sittel's blog about watching Ken Basin's failed run for the million, you can see the groundwork being laid for this miss. IIRC, Basin had some easy sports-related question, and Sittel professed complete ignorance of the fact. (In fact, he thought several of Basin's questions up to the million were "obscure" and difficult, which did not bode well for his time in the hot seat.)
That is no defense. This is a game for real money, and it requires one to be cold and calculating.Appa23 wrote:In defense of Sittel, he really only had 2 PAF slots to fill. As his wife could not go with hinm, he likely felt that he had to include her as one of the three (if for no other reason than that chance to do a "Carpenter call".) It is one way that the drop from 5 PAFs to 3 really has a big negative impact on some hot seaters.
I agree. In the past people have called brothers, mothers or others just to make them feel good. Personally, I'd feel better to have my relative come home with some bank rather than wasting their PAF by calling me on a question for which I'd be totally unsuitable.Jeemie wrote:That is no defense. This is a game for real money, and it requires one to be cold and calculating.Appa23 wrote:In defense of Sittel, he really only had 2 PAF slots to fill. As his wife could not go with hinm, he likely felt that he had to include her as one of the three (if for no other reason than that chance to do a "Carpenter call".) It is one way that the drop from 5 PAFs to 3 really has a big negative impact on some hot seaters.
If the spouse can be an excellent PAF in subject matters in which the player is weak, then great.
But if the sole (or over-riding) purpose of selecting the spouse as a PAF is because he/she cannot accompany the player to NYC, then that is stupid.
Play the game- get sentimental later.
jacorbett70 wrote:I remember one prime-time show where it was apparent that one woman had to have her boss as the PAF as a condition to go, she called the boss and the boss gave her a wrong answer that she must have thought was wrong, she couldn't go against the boss so she walked with something like $4000.
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Southpaw Fanny wrote:jacorbett70 wrote:I remember one prime-time show where it was apparent that one woman had to have her boss as the PAF as a condition to go, she called the boss and the boss gave her a wrong answer that she must have thought was wrong, she couldn't go against the boss so she walked with something like $4000.
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And I'll bet when she got back home, the boss didn't find a damn thing wrong with what he did or the provisions he set.
Or if someone is that much of an asshole, he could have given her the wrong answer on purpose so she wouldn't win a big hunk of cash and then quit on him.Southpaw Fanny wrote:jacorbett70 wrote:I remember one prime-time show where it was apparent that one woman had to have her boss as the PAF as a condition to go, she called the boss and the boss gave her a wrong answer that she must have thought was wrong, she couldn't go against the boss so she walked with something like $4000.
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And I'll bet when she got back home, the boss didn't find a damn thing wrong with what he did or the provisions he set.
Again in defense of Sittel, if I've read the thread correctly, he essentially said that he misinterpreted the question as one about "The Office", a subject on which he considered his wife an expert. Had he understood it correctly as a sports question, it's entirely possible that he would have chosen one of the others.Jeemie wrote:That is no defense. This is a game for real money, and it requires one to be cold and calculating.Appa23 wrote:In defense of Sittel, he really only had 2 PAF slots to fill. As his wife could not go with hinm, he likely felt that he had to include her as one of the three (if for no other reason than that chance to do a "Carpenter call".) It is one way that the drop from 5 PAFs to 3 really has a big negative impact on some hot seaters.
If the spouse can be an excellent PAF in subject matters in which the player is weak, then great.
But if the sole (or over-riding) purpose of selecting the spouse as a PAF is because he/she cannot accompany the player to NYC, then that is stupid.
Play the game- get sentimental later.
At this point, there's only one relative I would consider as a PAF. He travels so much, though, that the chances are good that he wouldn't be available anyway. I saw that, and I agree.gsabc wrote:Again in defense of Sittel, if I've read the thread correctly, he essentially said that he misinterpreted the question as one about "The Office", a subject on which he considered his wife an expert. Had he understood it correctly as a sports question, it's entirely possible that he would have chosen one of the others.
