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Re: No longer taping my watch

#26 Post by Catfish » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:19 pm

ghostjmf wrote:Good luck on "real test". They will tell you "don't take notes on the questions you don't know so that you can go back to them". (Because on the paper test you can go back to them, even though the clue is no longer up there). Its impossible not to do just that, at least mentally, but try not to.

Says someone who flunked it.
I disagree. You will know the answers to well more than half of the questions (answers?) instantaneously, leaving you with what seems like eons for others. It helps to have a note in the space so that you know which response goes where. Just make the notes very light and small, so that they not be construed as your intended answer and so that you have room for your real answer when it comes to you. Worked for me.

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#27 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:25 pm

I agree with Catfish. Make all the notes you can with the time you have. In the three times I've taken the in person test, I've managed to go back and pick up one or two from my notes.
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#28 Post by gsabc » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:36 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I agree with Catfish. Make all the notes you can with the time you have. In the three times I've taken the in person test, I've managed to go back and pick up one or two from my notes.
As long as it's not marked down for cheating, that was my plan. I did it during my other audition attempts, many moons ago.

Question: I'm assuming they give you another test to make sure you were really the one taking the online version. Is there a passing grade there, too, or do you just have to show enough trivia knowledge to assure them you were the first test taker? Obviously, they might get suspicious if you get a 20, but will 30 be enough? My scores on the first two online tests were right around there, so I'm a bit nervous about it.
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Re: No longer taping my watch

#29 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:02 pm

gsabc wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:I agree with Catfish. Make all the notes you can with the time you have. In the three times I've taken the in person test, I've managed to go back and pick up one or two from my notes.
As long as it's not marked down for cheating, that was my plan. I did it during my other audition attempts, many moons ago.

Question: I'm assuming they give you another test to make sure you were really the one taking the online version. Is there a passing grade there, too, or do you just have to show enough trivia knowledge to assure them you were the first test taker? Obviously, they might get suspicious if you get a 20, but will 30 be enough? My scores on the first two online tests were right around there, so I'm a bit nervous about it.
Nobody knows for sure whether you have to hit the (officially unofficial) cut-off of 35 on the in-person test.

The conventional wisdom is that there is flexibility as long as there is no reason to suspect cheating on the online test.

If I had to guess, I'd say they have a cut-off for the in-person, but that it is lower than the generally believed 35. Perhaps as low as 25. However, everyone gets to play the mock game regardless, so you'll have no idea for sure if you are "really" in the pool for consideration.
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Re: No longer taping my watch

#30 Post by Catfish » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:18 pm

We were told they would use a combination of the two test scores. You will probably do at least a few points better on the in-person test b/c of the aforementioned capability of going back to previous questions. My in-person test was much easier than the online test, but that could have been a wheelhouse thing.
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Re: No longer taping my watch

#31 Post by ghostjmf » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:29 pm

catfish says, re taking notes on the Qs you don't know:
I disagree. You will know the answers to well more than half of the questions (answers?) instantaneously, leaving you with what seems like eons for others. It helps to have a note in the space so that you know which response goes where. Just make the notes very light and small, so that they not be construed as your intended answer and so that you have room for your real answer when it comes to you. Worked for me.

Says someone who passed it.
I did all that, & found that perhaps the nagging "old questions" were nagging too hard. Also, they told us that if they saw any marks on the paper, they'd throw our tests out, so any "notes" had to be erased really well. And of course you can't bring notepaper in, or they'll throw you out.

You don't really want to wonder if you got a low score or got your test thrown out for incomplete erasures (as I do). Also, in my case I really did overthink a few, which cancelled out the one or two I picked up by going back.

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#32 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:59 pm

ghostjmf wrote: Also, they told us that if they saw any marks on the paper, they'd throw our tests out,
in my three in-persons, I was never told this. In fact, in one (the first) we were specifically told that we could make margin notes. IIRC, since then, the video has said not to make notes, and joked that you won't have time to go back anyway.
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#33 Post by Rafferbee » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:11 pm

Congratulations, gsabc! Make sure to listen to all their instructions, and be clear and loud during the mock game.

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#34 Post by gsabc » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:37 pm

Followup: I've already received the confirmation e-mail! Hotel info, all the caveats (no guarantee you'll be called for the show, no guarantee you'll get on even if you ARE called out to CA, etc.) and instructions. Need to figure out what to wear. I think I can safely eliminate the tie-dye. :)

Yes, be loud, project, follow instructions, react well even when you're wrong, be BOLD! Most of all, pass the furshlugginer test!

If nothing else, this will make me a little less upset if 'BAM comes to Boston while I'm at my nephew's wedding. Note that I said "a little". You will still hear ranting and raving should the road show schedule play out that way.
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#35 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:26 am

The only test I've taken was from the Brain Bus and about 75 people took the test (more than 75 passed the minitest the night before, but some had commitments and couldn't show up the next day to take the full test) and 15 passed and those 15 were the only ones to get interviewed and play the mock game.

For these home computer test auditions, about how many people are in each session?

Do all of them interview or only those who get a passing score on the written test?

If only those who pass the written test, how many out of the total group passed?
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Re: No longer taping my watch

#36 Post by earendel » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:35 am

silverscreenselect wrote:The only test I've taken was from the Brain Bus and about 75 people took the test (more than 75 passed the minitest the night before, but some had commitments and couldn't show up the next day to take the full test) and 15 passed and those 15 were the only ones to get interviewed and play the mock game.

For these home computer test auditions, about how many people are in each session?
At the last one I went to there were around 50 in our session, but I believe there were three or four sessions?
silverscreenselect wrote:Do all of them interview or only those who get a passing score on the written test?
Everyone gets the chance to play the mock game and do the interview. They tell you that everyone who made it to this stage is "in the pool".
silverscreenselect wrote:If only those who pass the written test, how many out of the total group passed?
See above. They don't say anything about the test scores - presumably they might if there was something totally out of the ordinary, such as scoring high on the online test and very low on the written one, or they might take that person aside privately.
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#37 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:02 am

2 years ago, we had 22 in our session. Everyone played the mock game.

When I went to Houston for a test, I don't remember how many passed of the roughly 60. I was one of the ones who missed it by one point.

The first time I tested in Dallas, I was one of 2 passers out of a group of 70.

I am now 4 out of 5 on passing tests. If you read my Jeopardy! Tale of Woe post, you would know that I did well enough on the in-person test 2 years ago. By my own calculation, I was right in my normal range of 36-39 on that test.
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