Alaska Legislature: Palin abused her authority

[danielh41]

dh:

Although I will admit that it doesn't sound nearly as good as Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Oh, the RWR that opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965? Yes, he was quite the enlightened one.

You mean that law that forced kids to be bused all the way across town to go to school? Oh yeah, that was an enlightened bit of lunacy on the part of the federal government...

[SportsFan68]

If his victims were not related to the governor of Alaska, he wouldn't have made the news and no one would have heard about him unless or until someone turned up dead, literally, either a family member or someone he encountered on the job. Then all the liberals on this Bored and in the media would have been decrying the justice system that allows guys like this to go about untouched until it's too late.

This guy is a disgrace to police everywhere and a public menace and Sarah Palin should be commended for trying to get him out of a position where he can harm anyone else. People who see this as an opportunity to score points against her should think about the type of guy they are defending.

I do decry a justice system that allows guys like that to go untouched, and I decry Palin's methods as well. As SSS points out, we would never have heard of this person if the victims weren't related to her, and that's because he's the only one she went after. How about a roll call of every other unfit Alaskan police officer Palin did not go after? Why does she get away with this discriminatory treatment -- you get justice in situations like that only if you're related to the governor? How about putting the power of the governor's office into fixing the problem? The investigator was right. She abused her authority.

[Flybrick]

The investigator was right. She abused her authority.

And in this instance, I commend her for doing the right thing, getting an abuser off the force and away from her family, over the 'right' thing which would be to let the system grind on for years and years.


But, this is different than pardoning one's brother or father in law on one's last day in office, right? That's not 'abusing one's authority.'

[Bob78164]

I do decry a justice system that allows guys like that to go untouched, and I decry Palin's methods as well. As SSS points out, we would never have heard of this person if the victims weren't related to her, and that's because he's the only one she went after. How about a roll call of every other unfit Alaskan police officer Palin did not go after? Why does she get away with this discriminatory treatment -- you get justice in situations like that only if you're related to the governor? How about putting the power of the governor's office into fixing the problem? The investigator was right. She abused her authority.

Sprots -- I haven't seen any actual evidence that Wooten used or threatened to use his Taser inappropriately or physically threatened anyone. I understand that S-cubed claims he admitted that he did them, but it wouldn't be the first time he got the facts wrong. --Bob

[silvercamaro]

I haven't seen any actual evidence that Wooten used or threatened to use his Taser inappropriately or physically threatened anyone. I understand that S-cubed claims he admitted that he did them, but it wouldn't be the first time he got the facts wrong. --Bob

Mike Wooten admitted that he tasered his stepson during a CNN interview on Sept. 4 or 5, but I guess if your eyes were closed, or if you didn't read any of the 3,000 or so worldwide news stories about that admission, you can say you didn't see it.

[ne1410s]

flyb:

You mean that law that forced kids to be bused all the way across town to go to school?

Ok, now I see where you're coming from.

[Bob78164]

I haven't seen any actual evidence that Wooten used or threatened to use his Taser inappropriately or physically threatened anyone. I understand that S-cubed claims he admitted that he did them, but it wouldn't be the first time he got the facts wrong. --Bob

Mike Wooten admitted that he tasered his stepson during a CNN interview on Sept. 4 or 5, but I guess if your eyes were closed, or if you didn't read any of the 3,000 or so worldwide news stories about that admission, you can say you didn't see it.

Thanks, sc. Coming from you, I'll accept it as true. --Bob

[VAdame]

Every, and I do mean every, new story about the Taser incident -- including the one I found about half an hour after McCain announced his choice of running mate, states that the kid asked Wooten to Tase him. The fact that he did it, even at a low-power test mode, indicates horrible judgment. But it's not exactly abuse.

From Wiki, so take it for whatever that's worth:

Taser incident

Wooten was also found to have violated department policy in using a Taser on his then 11-year old stepson in 2003. He told investigators that he did so "in a training capacity" after the child had asked to be tased. In a September 2008 newspaper interview, Wooten said that he set the Taser to "test" mode, meaning that it was on low power.[31][32] In a statement to police, the boy said "he wanted to be tased to show that he's not a mommy's boy in front of Bristol [his cousin, Palin's daughter]. Following being tased he went upstairs to tell his mother that he was fine."[18] In a statement to police, Molly McCann said "she was up stairs giving a bath to the kids … Mike was going to show Payton what it feels like and she told Mike that he better not."[18] According to Molly's account, she remained upstairs during the incident.

Although the Taser incident happened in 2003, it was not reported to police until on or after April 11, 2005, the day McCann filed for divorce. On June 6, 2005, a police investigator asked Bristol why they "waited so long and brought the incident up after two years." Bristol said "because of the divorce."

[Bob78164]

Every, and I do mean every, new story about the Taser incident -- including the one I found about half an hour after McCain announced his choice of running mate, states that the kid asked Wooten to Tase him. The fact that he did it, even at a low-power test mode, indicates horrible judgment. But it's not exactly abuse.

From Wiki, so take it for whatever that's worth:

Taser incident

Wooten was also found to have violated department policy in using a Taser on his then 11-year old stepson in 2003. He told investigators that he did so "in a training capacity" after the child had asked to be tased. In a September 2008 newspaper interview, Wooten said that he set the Taser to "test" mode, meaning that it was on low power.[31][32] In a statement to police, the boy said "he wanted to be tased to show that he's not a mommy's boy in front of Bristol [his cousin, Palin's daughter]. Following being tased he went upstairs to tell his mother that he was fine."[18] In a statement to police, Molly McCann said "she was up stairs giving a bath to the kids … Mike was going to show Payton what it feels like and she told Mike that he better not."[18] According to Molly's account, she remained upstairs during the incident.

Although the Taser incident happened in 2003, it was not reported to police until on or after April 11, 2005, the day McCann filed for divorce. On June 6, 2005, a police investigator asked Bristol why they "waited so long and brought the incident up after two years." Bristol said "because of the divorce."

Thanks. That does shed additional light on the incident. --Bob

[Flybrick]

flyb:

You mean that law that forced kids to be bused all the way across town to go to school?

Ok, now I see where you're coming from.

No, obviously you don't. That was not my post or quote.

But as you are spring-loaded to think that, you think you had me pegged.

So, can I safely assume that you will be claiming in the event of an Obama victory, that the better man with the better policies for our country won, but that if McCain wins, it will simply be racism against Obama?

Do you agree with that analysis or will you publicly state here and now that should Obama lose, America as a whole thought McCain would do a better job based on the man, not his skin color?

[wbtravis007]

What FlyBrickGuy said in the last post. [I didn't do the reply thing right, I guess.]

There are three opinions in my little town on the issue of whether race matters: 1) those who would never vote for a non-whitie; 2) those who understand that there are quite a few people in category #1; and, 3) those who don't understand that there are quite a few people in category #1.

The idiots are the ones in category #3.

[silverscreenselect]

Every, and I do mean every, new story about the Taser incident -- including the one I found about half an hour after McCain announced his choice of running mate, states that the kid asked Wooten to Tase him. The fact that he did it, even at a low-power test mode, indicates horrible judgment. But it's not exactly abuse.

Every abused wife always goes to the cops immediately after the abuse happens and always sticks to her story come heck or high water.

Yeah, right, and I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell you.

What you get are stories about how these women and their children repeatedly "fell" down the stairs and accidentally got themselves beaten to a pulp. They won't testify or stick to a story out of a misbegotten sense of love or fear or both. So it's not surprising that she kept quiet about her husband, a state trooper with a gun, until she finally had enough and filed for divorce like the guy's first three wives.

If you read the guy's entire record (4 divorces by age 35, a number of drinking/reckless driving disciplinary actions on file), you can see that he's bad news. Which is more likely, that a 10 year old boy asked a cop to be tasered or that a sleazeball abusive cop tasered the kid as some bizarre form of "discipline" and that the mother and kid were intimidated into keeping quiet as long as they lived under the same roof.

If this were my nephew, I'd be moving heaven and earth to get this guy out of their lives and out of the police department and I suspect most people on the Bored feel the same way.

[Tocqueville3]

What FlyBrickGuy said in the last post. [I didn't do the reply thing right, I guess.]

There are three opinions in my little town on the issue of whether race matters: 1) those who would never vote for a non-whitie; 2) those who understand that there are quite a few people in category #1; and, 3) those who don't understand that there are quite a few people in category #1.

The idiots are the ones in category #3.

I think we've already established that you live in Stupidtown.

[BigDrawMan]

The Alaska Legislature is releasing its report, now that Republican efforts to get the courts to stop the investigation have failed. The Legislature has concluded that Palin abused her authority in the "troopergate" incident. --Bob

the whole episode is more embarrassing in a dumbass redneck kind of way, than in a gubernatorial corrupt way.

[wbtravis007]

What FlyBrickGuy said in the last post. [I didn't do the reply thing right, I guess.]

There are three opinions in my little town on the issue of whether race matters: 1) those who would never vote for a non-whitie; 2) those who understand that there are quite a few people in category #1; and, 3) those who don't understand that there are quite a few people in category #1.

The idiots are the ones in category #3.

I think we've already established that you live in Stupidtown.

My post wasn't constucted very well. I hate when that happens.

Now, to tocque's post: I'm going to guess that you'd fit right in here with the people who are in category #3.

Right here in Stupidtown.

[BackInTex]

Wasn't Mr. Democratic Party involved in some sort of troopergate prior to him getting elected? I realize it was just his integrity being challenged, so it didn't matter to the party. But still.

[silverscreenselect]

What FlyBrickGuy said in the last post. [I didn't do the reply thing right, I guess.]

There are three opinions in my little town on the issue of whether race matters: 1) those who would never vote for a non-whitie; 2) those who understand that there are quite a few people in category #1; and, 3) those who don't understand that there are quite a few people in category #1.

The idiots are the ones in category #3.

Virtually all the people who would never vote for a black man were not going to vote for any national Democrat.

Obama's constant attempts to play the race card are an attempt to play to white guilt. In an election like this one, there are a lot of people who still don't buy what Obama's selling but can't quite put their finger on why they don't trust him. Obama is trying to make them believe that the only reason they don't trust him is because he's black and if they vote against him on that basis, they're racist.

[mrkelley23]

What FlyBrickGuy said in the last post. [I didn't do the reply thing right, I guess.]

There are three opinions in my little town on the issue of whether race matters: 1) those who would never vote for a non-whitie; 2) those who understand that there are quite a few people in category #1; and, 3) those who don't understand that there are quite a few people in category #1.

The idiots are the ones in category #3.

Virtually all the people who would never vote for a black man were not going to vote for any national Democrat.

Obama's constant attempts to play the race card are an attempt to play to white guilt. In an election like this one, there are a lot of people who still don't buy what Obama's selling but can't quite put their finger on why they don't trust him. Obama is trying to make them believe that the only reason they don't trust him is because he's black and if they vote against him on that basis, they're racist.

LOL!!!

Come to Indiana. Or Kentucky. Or Tennessee. I'll show you plenty of voters who, for instance, would've (and in many cases did) vote for either Clinton who will never vote for a black person. Ever. Period.

Or how about Louisiana?

You can start with this guy:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ye ... nk=rssfeed

[Tocqueville3]

There are three opinions in my little town on the issue of whether race matters: 1) those who would never vote for a non-whitie; 2) those who understand that there are quite a few people in category #1; and, 3) those who don't understand that there are quite a few people in category #1.

The idiots are the ones in category #3.

I think we've already established that you live in Stupidtown.

My post wasn't constucted very well. I hate when that happens.

Now, to tocque's post: I'm going to guess that you'd fit right in here with the people who are in category #3.

Right here in Stupidtown.

I really have no idea why I even try.

My post was an attempt at some humor. Too bad you missed that. And you're the one that said the poeple where you lived were not voting for Obama because he's black.

Your post was an attmept to say that the people that aren't voting for Obama are racist. You know that's not true but you're too lame not to play the race card.

You don't know me from Adam so how in the world to you know if I am a a racist?

I concluded a long time ago that in this presidential race that when some democrats (not all) were running out of things to say they played that race card. Oh well, he can't come up with anything better so he yanks that race card outta his back pocket. Playing the race card does nothing but make them (and you) look stupid. Frankly, I think there are a lot of Democrats that wish there were members of their own party that would quit playing the race card.

[wbtravis007]

I think we've already established that you live in Stupidtown.

My post wasn't constucted very well. I hate when that happens.

Now, to tocque's post: I'm going to guess that you'd fit right in here with the people who are in category #3.

Right here in Stupidtown.

I really have no idea why I even try.

My post was an attempt at some humor. Too bad you missed that. And you're the one that said the poeple where you lived were not voting for Obama because he's black.

Your post was an attmept to say that the people that aren't voting for Obama are racist. You know that's not true but you're too lame not to play the race card.

You don't know me from Adam so how in the world to you know if I am a a racist?

I concluded a long time ago that in this presidential race that when some democrats (not all) were running out of things to say they played that race card. Oh well, he can't come up with anything better so he yanks that race card outta his back pocket. Playing the race card does nothing but make them (and you) look stupid. Frankly, I think there are a lot of Democrats that wish there were members of their own party that would quit playing the race card.

People throw around the expression "race card" -- (you did at least four times) -- as though all of us are supposed to know what they mean by that. I don't get it.

I'm just stating a fact: there are a lot of people in my town who will not vote for a black person for president. I'm not saying that people in category three are racists, but they're certainly idiots.

If you're saying that you understand that there are a lot of people in category one, then I will gladly consider you to be a category two person.

'Course, that means that you have to be willing to be in the same category that I'm in.

[danielh41]

My post wasn't constucted very well. I hate when that happens.

Now, to tocque's post: I'm going to guess that you'd fit right in here with the people who are in category #3.

Right here in Stupidtown.

I really have no idea why I even try.

My post was an attempt at some humor. Too bad you missed that. And you're the one that said the poeple where you lived were not voting for Obama because he's black.

Your post was an attmept to say that the people that aren't voting for Obama are racist. You know that's not true but you're too lame not to play the race card.

You don't know me from Adam so how in the world to you know if I am a a racist?

I concluded a long time ago that in this presidential race that when some democrats (not all) were running out of things to say they played that race card. Oh well, he can't come up with anything better so he yanks that race card outta his back pocket. Playing the race card does nothing but make them (and you) look stupid. Frankly, I think there are a lot of Democrats that wish there were members of their own party that would quit playing the race card.

People throw around the expression "race card" -- (you did at least four times) -- as though all of us are supposed to know what they mean by that. I don't get it.

I'm just stating a fact: there are a lot of people in my town who will not vote for a black person for president. I'm not saying that people in category three are racists, but they're certainly idiots.

If you're saying that you understand that there are a lot of people in category one, then I will gladly consider you to be a category two person.

'Course, that means that you have to be willing to be in the same category that I'm in.

There probably are people who would not vote for a black candidate simply because he's black. Thankfully, that number is dwindling. I know a lot of people, myself included, who would gladly vote for the right black candidate. Barack Obama is not even close to being the right candidate for President. In fact, he is about as wrong as you can get, and it is not because of his race.

What is more disturbing is the large number of people who are voting for Obama simply because he is black. As evidence of that, see the Howard Stern clip that SSS posted, (http://tinyurl.com/53jx82). I would guess that there are many more people voting for him only because he is black than there are people voting against him solely because of race.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Racism arguments are counterproductive. Each side has it reasons for supporting there candidate. Here's Jesse Jackson making his case.

"Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/po ... htm?page=0