Zimmerman not guilty

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

You're right: Limbaugh isn't a racist; he thinks he's superior to everyone.

Didja ever have one of those moments when the jokes are so plentiful and so obvious that it's not even worth writing them down? I guess I'll throw 'em in the back of a kitchen cabinet where I keep all of my old pots and kettles.

I'll spend some time contemplating what else might be in Aunt Judy's Magical (and slightly radioactive) Kitchen Cabinet of Reserve and Discretion. I'm thinking there might be a cauldron in there somewhere with the pots and kettles.

[Bob Juch]

Interesting that the "Child" (Martin) out purchasing candy-just happened to purchase Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail and Skittles which are 2 of the 3 components of a drug cocktails((The other is cough syrup) known as Lean and/or DXM which are common in Southern Hip-Hop culture.

Gee, I guess he did deserve to die.

[Bob Juch]

Interesting that the "Child" (Martin) out purchasing candy-just happened to purchase Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail and Skittles which are 2 of the 3 components of a drug cocktails((The other is cough syrup) known as Lean and/or DXM which are common in Southern Hip-Hop culture.

I'm waiting on Donald Trump to announce a national email to collect dirt on Trayvon Martin. Its time to bring out all the dirt on the thug.

In other news, model citizen George Zimmerman helped rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle.

Further proof he's a wannabe hero/cop.

[tlynn78]

Interesting that the "Child" (Martin) out purchasing candy-just happened to purchase Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail and Skittles which are 2 of the 3 components of a drug cocktails((The other is cough syrup) known as Lean and/or DXM which are common in Southern Hip-Hop culture.

I'm waiting on Donald Trump to announce a national email to collect dirt on Trayvon Martin. Its time to bring out all the dirt on the thug.

In other news, model citizen George Zimmerman helped rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle.

Further proof he's a wannabe hero/cop.

Right? That bastard. And probably the car accident victims were white, besides. Ugh. The nerve of him.

t.

[Bob Juch]

[BackInTex]

I doubt he'd fear for his life by being knee'd or pepper sprayed. So no. You really should get the facts straight.

However, if your daughter hid from him. Sprung a sneak attack, managed to get him on the ground and began pounding his head into the concrete while telling him 'your dead', then yes. Then would be justified if he were not intending her harm in the first place.

[BigDrawMan]

a grown man picks a fight with a scrawny teen, gets ass kicked, calls 911, told to let real cops handle it, ignores, pursues, shoots to kill. And the law is on his side.

I think the kid woulda had a better stand your ground defense than donut boy.

[BackInTex]

a grown man picks a fight with a scrawny teen, gets ass kicked, calls 911, told to let real cops handle it, ignores, pursues, shoots to kill. And the law is on his side.

I think the kid woulda had a better stand your ground defense than donut boy.

What case are you referring to?

[silverscreenselect]

However, if your daughter hid from him. Sprung a sneak attack, managed to get him on the ground and began pounding his head into the concrete while telling him 'your dead', then yes. Then would be justified if he were not intending her harm in the first place.

I'm just curious how you arrived at the theory that Martin hid in some nonexistent bushes to "sprung a sneak attack" on Zimmerman. As you so eloquently demonstrated earlier today, it's far more likely that Zimmerman, if he were pursuing a potentially armed vicious gang member, would either have had his gun out when he confronted Martin or pulled it out when they met.

The laws of evidence allowed Zimmerman to advance this theory because the police tapes were admitted while he himself never testified and was subject to cross examination about how patently ridiculous that story was (and the prosecution did a really poor job of bringing the jury's attention to this as well during its closing arguments). But it doesn't mean people need to check their common sense at the door when they look at what happened (unless of course, you're a right winger anxious to come up with a version of the story that makes Zimmerman the hero).

A teenage boy who is unfamiliar with the neighborhood and starts running away because he's either afraid of Zimmerman or the cops Zimmerman called decides somewhere along the route to confront him and manages to find a good enough spot for an ambush so he could surprise Zimmerman who was very familiar with the neighborhood.

Zimmerman who is supposedly such a poor fighter that he can't fend off Martin and winds up on his back getting his head pounded into the concrete manages to draw his gun from his holster while Martin is sitting on top of him and shoot him despite Martin's full weight being on top of him. There's no way that happens.

The gun was out, early in the fight, almost assuredly before the fight began. That's what led to the fight and how Zimmerman was able to shoot Martin. Hopefully, Martin's family will sue and force Zimmerman to tell his story under oath and subject to cross examination. Then we'll see just how ridiculous his version is.

[Estonut]

Zimmerman who is supposedly such a poor fighter that he can't fend off Martin and winds up on his back getting his head pounded into the concrete manages to draw his gun from his holster while Martin is sitting on top of him and shoot him despite Martin's full weight being on top of him. There's no way that happens.

Yeah, he managed to draw the gun from the holster at his waistband, behind his back. I bet he couldn't do that under his own weight, let alone with the addition of TM mounted on top of him.

[BackInTex]

I'm just curious how you arrived at the theory that Martin hid in some nonexistent bushes to "sprung a sneak attack" on Zimmerman.

Your definition of "nonexistent" must be different than mine. And I don't think I ever said he hid in bushes. But there are bushes. And fences. At almost every apartment. I'm sorry these facts keep getting in the way of whatever your agenda is. Pesky things, I know.

However, if you must know, I arrived at my theory using facts (and vision). I know, you don't understand how that works, but it does.
He didn't need a bush. Every porch has a fence to hide behind.


Those green things next to the fence, with the leaves on them, are bushes.


And at night, the area is not lighted. And Martin was wearing dark colors.

[silverscreenselect]

Those green things next to the fence, with the leaves on them, are bushes.

There sure is a lot of room for someone to hide behind those bushes and then leap out behind an unsuspecting Zimmerman.

And exactly where along Martin's route did he have a sudden change of heart and turn from teenager running away from the law and/or a deranged creepy man into someone who calculates the best location from which to ambush a man who may or may not come in that direction.

Not to mention that although it was dark, it was also about 7:30 on a Sunday night, and there were likely a lot of lights on at that time.

Every time you try to come up with a plausible explanation for your version of things, you make them seem even more ridiculous. Sadly, the prosecution never went down this road sufficiently during the trial.

[BackInTex]

Sadly, the prosecution never went down this road sufficiently during the trial.

They never went down that road because it went no where. If it did, they would have taken it. But unlike you, the court required facts.

There sure is a lot of room for someone to hide behind those bushes

You keep saying "behind bushes" or "in bushes". I don't think I ever said where Martin could have hidden. There's plenty of room behind each fence.

Not to mention that although it was dark, it was also about 7:30 on a Sunday night, and there were likely a lot of lights on at that time.

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It was rainy so any lights coming from the interiors would be ineffective at lighting the area. And there was no external lighting. And lights wouldn't allow Zimmerman to see through the fences anyway. And Martin was wearing dark clothing........and on....and on.... and on...

[flockofseagulls104]

Those green things next to the fence, with the leaves on them, are bushes.

There sure is a lot of room for someone to hide behind those bushes and then leap out behind an unsuspecting Zimmerman.

And exactly where along Martin's route did he have a sudden change of heart and turn from teenager running away from the law and/or a deranged creepy man into someone who calculates the best location from which to ambush a man who may or may not come in that direction.

Not to mention that although it was dark, it was also about 7:30 on a Sunday night, and there were likely a lot of lights on at that time.

Every time you try to come up with a plausible explanation for your version of things, you make them seem even more ridiculous. Sadly, the prosecution never went down this road sufficiently during the trial.

A man named Travon Martin was killed in an altercation with George Zimmerman. That was and is a tragedy.

The State of Florida decided to prosecute this case after the initial investigation concluded that there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute Zimmerman beyond a reasonable doubt. The people that made that determination were overruled and the case was taken to court.

The State made the case that Zimmerman committed either second degree murder or manslaughter. The case was tried by a Judge in front of a jury. The jury was given all the relevant facts in the case, and was charged to make a determination and a verdict. The Jury decided that they could not convict Zimmerman beyond a reasonable doubt for either of those charges. So he has been acquitted of those charges.

That is the story. It is not about bushes or hoodies or gangs or vigilante wanna be cops or speculating who may have done what or who is the bad guy or who is the good guy. It is not about who is racist and who is not.

That is our system of law, whether you like it or not. It is not a perfect system, but it is the best we have. If you have a better idea, then by all means propose it. But what is happening now is what is happening to a lot of our culture. It is being politicized. And I do not believe that is a good thing.

[tlynn78]

Sadly, the prosecution never went down this road sufficiently during the trial.

They never went down that road because it went no where. If it did, they would have taken it. But unlike you, the court required facts.

There sure is a lot of room for someone to hide behind those bushes

You keep saying "behind bushes" or "in bushes". I don't think I ever said where Martin could have hidden. There's plenty of room behind each fence.

Not to mention that although it was dark, it was also about 7:30 on a Sunday night, and there were likely a lot of lights on at that time.

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It was rainy so any lights coming from the interiors would be ineffective at lighting the area. And there was no external lighting. And lights wouldn't allow Zimmerman to see through the fences anyway. And Martin was wearing dark clothing........and on....and on.... and on...[/quote]


I knew this would turn out to be Bush's fault.

t.

[Bob Juch]

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Bob you got suckered on this one.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07 ... -activist/

UPDATE: Brandon Darby interviewed Renee Vaughan at the rally. She told him her sign means that “there are people here who are racist and apparently think that’s OK. I’m not one of them. I’m being sarcastic.”

[BackInTex]

Bob you got suckered on this one.

He's an easy mark.

[silverscreenselect]

The only minority juror on the panel says she felt Zimmerman got away with murder.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013 ... a/2587533/

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

The only minority juror on the panel says she felt Zimmerman got away with murder.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013 ... a/2587533/

"Felt"

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/07 ... ecord.html

How to do a correction

This article has been corrected. Zimmerman called various law enforcement officials 46 times, not just 911, as originally stated. He made the calls over an eight-year period, not over the course of 15 months, as originally stated. The original sentence also cited a call Zimmerman made about a seven-year-old boy; the clause has been removed as it implied that Zimmerman was reporting suspicious activity. It appears that Zimmerman made the call out of concern. We regret the errors.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1138 ... acist-laws#

[BackInTex]

The only minority juror on the panel says she felt Zimmerman got away with murder.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013 ... a/2587533/

Looks likd Bob Juch has hacked into SSS's bored account, again.

[ne1410s]

The legal system works.

Zimmerman and OJ are innocent.

[jarnon]

The only minority juror on the panel says she felt Zimmerman got away with murder.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013 ... a/2587533/

I saw this juror's interview. BTW, she's Hispanic like George. She believed George was guilty, but the evidence wasn't conclusive, so she followed the law and changed her vote to Not Guilty. The other four jurors, who distanced themselves from the first juror to be interviewed, haven't commented this time, so I suppose they agree.

A Federal trial will have the same outcome, if those jurors also obey the law. The Martin family's best option may be a civil suit. They could get George to admit that he showed his gun before the fight began, which would explain Trayvon's response. And if they manage to win, George will never keep any money he's paid for his story.

[flockofseagulls104]

They could get George to admit that he showed his gun before the fight began,

Where do you get this stuff? You write it as if it's a fact, when it's nothing but biased speculation.

The case went through the legal system. It had a result. You and many others didn't like and are not satisfied with the result. Is mob rule preferable? Because that's what this is sounding like.