Lieberman to be McCain's VP choice

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clem21 · #26 Post by **clem21** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:29 pm

nitrah55 wrote:This is from the NYTimes "Caucus" blog:

SEDONA, Ariz. – Tea-leaf alert! It turns out that the Saturday rally in Senator John McCain’s roll-out tour of a vice-presidential running mates will take place in the early evening. Could it be a clue, given that one of the finalists on Mr. McCain’s shortlist, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, is an Orthodox Jew who does not work on the Sabbath?

Doors to the rally, at a stadium in Washington, Pa., are supposed to open at 3 p.m. Sundown is not scheduled until 7:55 p.m. It would be a long time to ask people to wait – but the campaign has scheduled John Rich, a country music star, as a warm up act.

Only time will tell….

I don't buy that at all because I distinctly remember during the 2000 campaign, Lieberman was criticized by many in the Jewish community for going to a rally on the Sabbath day. If he's done it before why wouldn't he do it again?
No, I think McCain'll pick Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota. That's a much better pick than any of the others being discussed and it would make his candidacy better.

Snaxx · #27 Post by **Snaxx** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:17 pm

KillerTomato wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:
KillerTomato wrote:If I were the DNC I'd have an ad all ready asking why the person who came in #2 in the Republican primaries wasn't McCain's choice for a running mate (assuming he chooses someone other than Mitt, which is likely. After all, the Elephants ran an ad asking why Hilary wasn't tapped.

I think politics just sucks.
What makes you say Mitt came in #2?

Mike Huckabee got more delegates than Romney.

Romney would be another stupid choice, btw.

Huck got more delegates (270 - 189), but Mitt got more votes (4,525,036 - 4,179,514).

The delegates are what counts, otherwise it might have been Hil weighing Barack as her Veep choice.

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dodgersteve182 · #28 Post by **dodgersteve182** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:18 pm

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Only two things would make next week's Republican Convention exciting:

1. Playing a drinking game during Rudy Giuliani's keynote speech. Take one drink each time Rudy says "September 11th" or "9/11". (Warning: May cause cirrhosis, alcohol poisoning, or death.)

2. Watching the convention floor become apoplectic (sp?) over the nomination of pro-choice, quasi-Democrat Lieberman for running mate.
But who else will the rabid right wingers vote for? Obama?

That's the Reps. biggest problem is that they haven't been "rabid" for McCain. Being an independent, I like Lieberman, only my party has no else to run on his 3rd party ticket if he did break away and run again for the executive branch, unless of course Jesse Ventura or Ross Perot are interested? Boy, the Indie ticket even looks bleaker than the tickets of the two major parties. I think I'll just write-in the name "McOCain" in the other box on my ballot. Sounds like a drug you take to cure SuperSize Me addiction!

mellytu74 · #29 Post by **mellytu74** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:33 pm

A question for Republicans?

How can John McCain picking a guy who voted with the Democrats 95 percent of the time help him with the conservative Republicans?

That's what he gets with Lieberman, who just gave $250,000 to the DSCC.

I think that contribution kind of put the kibosh on a McCain-Lieberman ticket.

KillerTomato · #30 Post by **KillerTomato** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:38 pm

jacorbett70 wrote:
KillerTomato wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote: What makes you say Mitt came in #2?

Mike Huckabee got more delegates than Romney.

Romney would be another stupid choice, btw.

Huck got more delegates (270 - 189), but Mitt got more votes (4,525,036 - 4,179,514).

The delegates are what counts, otherwise it might have been Hil weighing Barack as her Veep choice.

Ah, but the point is that the RNC ran an ad chastising Obama for not picking Hil for the VP slot, despite the fact that she got so many votes. "She got 18 million votes, so why isn't she on the ticket?" Admittedly, her 18 million votes is much more impressive than Mitt's 4.5 million....but then again, she's a much more impressive candidate. And I'm not even a big supporter, I just think she's got so much more personality than Romney, whom I find mind-numbingly dull.

Bob Juch · #31 Post by **Bob Juch** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:57 pm

mellytu74 wrote:A question for Republicans?

How can John McCain picking a guy who voted with the Democrats 95 percent of the time help him with the conservative Republicans?

That's what he gets with Lieberman, who just gave $250,000 to the DSCC.

I think that contribution kind of put the kibosh on a McCain-Lieberman ticket.

He apparently wants to be elected by the disenchanted Democrats and doesn't care about the disenchanted Republicans.

Jeemie · #32 Post by **Jeemie** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:04 pm

I don't care who McCain picks.

This disenchanted Republican is voting third party already.

BOTH major party candidates suck ass.

silvercamaro · #33 Post by **silvercamaro** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:55 pm

mellytu74 wrote:A question for Republicans?

How can John McCain picking a guy who voted with the Democrats 95 percent of the time help him with the conservative Republicans?

That's what he gets with Lieberman, who just gave $250,000 to the DSCC.

I think that contribution kind of put the kibosh on a McCain-Lieberman ticket.

I would be astonished if McCain selected Lieberman as his running mate for reasons that include those you mention. That said, there is one thing I very much appreciate about the man. I believe that he is a decent and honorable man in a profession where those qualities cannot be assumed. My perception is that his desire to serve his country and his God is far stronger than his quest for personal power and self-enrichment. His votes seem to follow whatever path he personally believes is the right thing to do, as opposed to political expediency.

In short, I think he is a good man -- not one with whom I would agree with on all things, nor one who is perfect, but a fundamentally good man, a man of honor. I would not be surprised if McCain's own admiration for Lieberman were based in similar concepts.

TheConfessor · #34 Post by **TheConfessor** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:02 pm

The networks are saying it will be Tim Pawlenty. I know very little about him. Apparently he would appeal more to the "religious right," and not as much to the more moderate factions of the party.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #35 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:08 am

TheConfessor wrote:The networks are saying it will be Tim Pawlenty. I know very little about him. Apparently he would appeal more to the "religious right," and not as much to the more moderate factions of the party.

A choice from the far right will probably drive moderates to vote for Obama.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #36 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:15 am

If McCain picks Lieberman as VP, I will pick him over Obama.

If McCain choses somebody who is really far to the right as his V.P. I am going with Obama.

If Obama had picked Hillary as his VP, I would have voted for them, regardless of who was on the other ticket.

TheConfessor · #37 Post by **TheConfessor** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:23 am

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:If McCain picks Lieberman as VP, I will pick him over Obama.

If McCain choses somebody who is really far to the right as his V.P. I am going with Obama.

If Obama had picked Hillary as his VP, I would have voted for them, regardless of who was on the other ticket.

If it's any consolation, your vote and mine probably won't matter. I think our states are both considered a foregone conclusion.

cindy.wellman · #38 Post by **cindy.wellman** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:06 pm

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:If McCain picks Lieberman as VP, I will pick him over Obama.

If McCain choses somebody who is really far to the right as his V.P. I am going with Obama.

If Obama had picked Hillary as his VP, I would have voted for them, regardless of who was on the other ticket.

PSM ? Now what?

#39 Post by **Bob78164** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:39 pm

cindy.wellman wrote:
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:If McCain picks Lieberman as VP, I will pick him over Obama.

If McCain choses somebody who is really far to the right as his V.P. I am going with Obama.

If Obama had picked Hillary as his VP, I would have voted for them, regardless of who was on the other ticket.

PSM ? Now what?

I think the second sentence that you quoted is directly responsive to your question. --Bob

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #40 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:51 pm

cindy.wellman wrote:
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:If McCain picks Lieberman as VP, I will pick him over Obama.

If McCain choses somebody who is really far to the right as his V.P. I am going with Obama.

If Obama had picked Hillary as his VP, I would have voted for them, regardless of who was on the other ticket.

PSM ? Now what?

I am holding my nose and voting for Obama.

I saw a quote about Palin "She brings some appeal to women voters who feel that Obama has treated Hillary Clinton badly." - Matthew Wilson, political scientist, Southern Methodist University, Dallas. I think that Obama treated Hillary badly, but I am not going to vote for a ticket just because a woman is on it.

Quite honestly, I think that this country will be fucked up, no matter who wins. If it isn't, I will be pleasantly surprised.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #41 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:54 pm

TheConfessor wrote:
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:If McCain picks Lieberman as VP, I will pick him over Obama.

If McCain choses somebody who is really far to the right as his V.P. I am going with Obama.

If Obama had picked Hillary as his VP, I would have voted for them, regardless of who was on the other ticket.
If it's any consolation, your vote and mine probably won't matter. I think our states are both considered a foregone conclusion.

I know.

I want my kids to see that even if I am not happy about the choices, I will still vote.

ToLiveIsToFly · #42 Post by **ToLiveIsToFly** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:31 pm

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I think that Obama treated Hillary badly

My thinking here is that it was a tenser, more negative primary season than usual. Obama treating Hillary badly is not the impression I have of it.

I'm not saying he didn't. I don't think you'd say that if you didn't have a good reason.

Can you tell me what that reason is?