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#26 Post by gsabc » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:24 am

BackInTex wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:You seriously buy Bush's statements - with absolutely no proof - on that? Do you think that Saddam would have tolerated any terrorists in Iraq? He would have been afraid they'd attack him.
I wouldn't by used handbag off Ebay from Bush.

Iraq is a big country. It is full of Arabs. It is full of Muslims. Suni and Shia. Most terrorists come from these peoples.

Are you naive enough to say none of them were terrorists?

Are you saying that we tolerate terroists in the U.S. or are you saying that there also are no terrorists in the U.S.?
The statements made to justify the Iraq war were that Saddam was actively supporting terrorism and terrorists, and specifically Al Queda, therefore making the war a matter of United States national security. The claim was not just that the country contained terrorists. We could justify invading ANY country using that excuse. More accurate information shows that Saddam had no contact with Al Queda and suppressed terrorists to help keep his own regime, Shiite in an otherwise Sunni Arab world, intact.
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#27 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:25 am

BackInTex wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:You seriously buy Bush's statements - with absolutely no proof - on that? Do you think that Saddam would have tolerated any terrorists in Iraq? He would have been afraid they'd attack him.
I wouldn't by used handbag off Ebay from Bush.

Iraq is a big country. It is full of Arabs. It is full of Muslims. Suni and Shia. Most terrorists come from these peoples.

Are you naive enough to say none of them were terrorists?

Are you saying that we tolerate terroists in the U.S. or are you saying that there also are no terrorists in the U.S.?
Yes, there were Kurdish terrorists who regularly attacked the Iraqi army. There were none of any sort who had plans to attack the USA.
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#28 Post by earendel » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:48 am

BackInTex wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:You seriously buy Bush's statements - with absolutely no proof - on that? Do you think that Saddam would have tolerated any terrorists in Iraq? He would have been afraid they'd attack him.
I wouldn't by used handbag off Ebay from Bush.

Iraq is a big country. It is full of Arabs. It is full of Muslims. Suni and Shia. Most terrorists come from these peoples.

Are you naive enough to say none of them were terrorists?

Are you saying that we tolerate terroists in the U.S. or are you saying that there also are no terrorists in the U.S.?
There very well may have been terrorists in Iraq prior to our invasion. However they were not al-Qaeda terrorists with designs toward the destruction of the U.S. They were "home-grown" terrorists who were more concerned about the Palestinian jihad. Our invasion did nothing other than provide fertile ground for the al-Qaeda terrorists to grow and provide them with easy targets (U.S. service members).
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#29 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:08 pm

rayxtwo wrote: Which would you rather have?

1) Our troops sitting in Iraq for the next 100 years or

2) Terrorist setting up shop in our country for the next 100 years?
The number of true "terrorists" in Iraq before we arrived was miniscule. Even at the height of the resistance, the vast majority of the people shooting at us were members of various Shiite and Sunni militia. Al Qaeda had a small percentage of the total resistance, mostly new recruits filled with hate of the US. The rest of the Sunnis tolerated Al Qaeda because they were easy fall guys everyone wanted to blame for what was going on.

I'll give Petraeus credit for one thing and it's not that bogus nonsense about "the surge." He was finally able to convince the powers-that-be that paying off these various militias was easier than wiping them out. The Sunnis offered us the same deal two years earlier but we went into Fallujah instead and lost dozens of G.I.'s in the process. Once Petraeus started bribing the people who had been shooting at us, the violence and our casualties dropped.

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