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#26 Post by BackInTex » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:49 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:I think that you don't know quite as much about The Constitution as you seem to think that you do.
You are funny, sometimes.
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#27 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:27 am

BackInTex wrote:
wbtravis007 wrote:I think that you don't know quite as much about The Constitution as you seem to think that you do.
You are funny, sometimes.
I see you patting his head as you say that.

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#28 Post by Jeemie » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:00 am

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Jeemie wrote:Who here thinks it's a good idea to tell private companies they have an obligation to offer price relief to consumers, and if they don't do it, the government will force them to? Or that the government has such a right?
You seem to be confused. No one is proposing that the oil companies be taxed to give "price relief" to consumers. If anything, taxing oil companies would increase the price of gas at the pump.
Actually, yes they are.

Obama's idea is to distribute the money raised from a windfall profits tax out as an emergency $1,000 rebate for people to pay their high energy bills with.

Everybody has energy bills, even those that don't drive cars.

Everybody is affected by high energy prices.

So it is NOT, in fact, "like any other tax".

And taxes were not originally meant to "re-distribute income" but to pay for government...which, at the time, did not include giving people money when "prices got too high".

PS I know the net effect will be to make energy prices higher- that makes this proposal stupid as well as borderline unconstitutional.
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#29 Post by Jeemie » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:04 am

wbtravis007 wrote:I think that you don't know quite as much about The Constitution as you seem to think that you do.
Well, perhaps you can enlighten me where in the Constitution Congress is given the power to decide that a provider of a good or service must provide from their profits to help people better afford their products.
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#30 Post by wbtravis007 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:06 pm

Jeemie wrote:
wbtravis007 wrote:I think that you don't know quite as much about The Constitution as you seem to think that you do.
Well, perhaps you can enlighten me where in the Constitution Congress is given the power to decide that a provider of a good or service must provide from their profits to help people better afford their products.
Sorry, but I've already got the boys in Legal working overtime on two projects: 1) Getting the authorities to quit hassling me about my collection of bear arms; and 2) settling this issue about whether the Fourteenth Amendment really requires us to produce condom-mints of every single size and shape imaginable.

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#31 Post by Flybrick » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:13 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
wbtravis007 wrote:I think that you don't know quite as much about The Constitution as you seem to think that you do.
Well, perhaps you can enlighten me where in the Constitution Congress is given the power to decide that a provider of a good or service must provide from their profits to help people better afford their products.
Sorry, but I've already got the boys in Legal working overtime on two projects: 1) Getting the authorities to quit hassling me about my collection of bear arms; and 2) settling this issue about whether the Fourteenth Amendment really requires us to produce condom-mints of every single size and shape imaginable.
Oh, so you can chastise without having the slightest basis in knowledge of the premise of your criticism?

Very convenient to spout slogans but have no clue of the facts. Does tend to lessen the seriousness of the taking of you.

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#32 Post by BackInTex » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:17 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
wbtravis007 wrote:I think that you don't know quite as much about The Constitution as you seem to think that you do.
Well, perhaps you can enlighten me where in the Constitution Congress is given the power to decide that a provider of a good or service must provide from their profits to help people better afford their products.
Sorry, but I've already got the boys in Legal working overtime on two projects: 1) Getting the authorities to quit hassling me about my collection of bear arms; and 2) settling this issue about whether the Fourteenth Amendment really requires us to produce condom-mints of every single size and shape imaginable.
Another cop out, just like the 2004 election wager. Always an excuse. Just an empty suit.

My guess it you know a lot more about the constitution than you let on. You just don't like what it says.

But it is hard to tell.
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#33 Post by wbtravis007 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:06 pm

Flybrick wrote:
Very convenient to spout slogans but have no clue of the facts. Does tend to lessen the seriousness of the taking of you.
My good fellow, the taking of me (whether involving a lessening of the seriousness or not) is something up with which I will not put.



Did you really write a book?

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#34 Post by wbtravis007 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:10 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Another cop out, just like the 2004 election wager. Always an excuse.
Some people might not realize that you're either kidding or lying here, so I'd like to point out that that is the case.

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#35 Post by BackInTex » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:00 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
Another cop out, just like the 2004 election wager. Always an excuse.
Some people might not realize that you're either kidding or lying here, so I'd like to point out that that is the case.
I am not kidding, or lying.

You did not want to wager.
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#36 Post by Flybrick » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:54 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Flybrick wrote:
Very convenient to spout slogans but have no clue of the facts. Does tend to lessen the seriousness of the taking of you.
My good fellow, the taking of me (whether involving a lessening of the seriousness or not) is something up with which I will not put.



Did you really write a book?
Two.

Did you really study the Constitution?

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#37 Post by wbtravis007 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:21 pm

Flybrick wrote:
wbtravis007 wrote:
Flybrick wrote:
Very convenient to spout slogans but have no clue of the facts. Does tend to lessen the seriousness of the taking of you.
My good fellow, the taking of me (whether involving a lessening of the seriousness or not) is something up with which I will not put.



Did you really write a book?
Two.

Did you really study the Constitution?
Re: the two books:

I think I just have a little something in my eye. That's all.

I will admit, though, that it makes me feel a little sad when I think about all of those sentences that must have been tortured in a syntaxtical kind of way. I hope they died peacefully.

To answer your question: I haven't said whether I've studied the Conststitution.

I'll add this: I don't normally answer questions that are vague or dumb.

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#38 Post by ne1410s » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:40 am

Did you really study the Constitution?
This should be directed to the USSC.
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#39 Post by Flybrick » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:26 am

wbtravis007 wrote:
Flybrick wrote:
wbtravis007 wrote: My good fellow, the taking of me (whether involving a lessening of the seriousness or not) is something up with which I will not put.



Did you really write a book?
Two.

Did you really study the Constitution?
Re: the two books:

I think I just have a little something in my eye. That's all.

I will admit, though, that it makes me feel a little sad when I think about all of those sentences that must have been tortured in a syntaxtical kind of way. I hope they died peacefully.

To answer your question: I haven't said whether I've studied the Conststitution.

I'll add this: I don't normally answer questions that are vague or dumb.
The sentences went for a good cause, my bank account. Their sacrifices were not in vain. Not to mention their telling the stories of some very brave men who fought for the same Constitution being discussed here.

You may rarely answer such questions, but on this thread, you've felt free to criticize without knowing the background being discussed.

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