Back on the fence
- Ritterskoop
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Back on the fence
I have had calls all morning from Observer people wanting me to stay:
My department head (who I like a lot and who has been good to me)
the managing editor (who I admire a great deal)
and the editor-in-chief (who spent 45 minutes telling me why I am the kind of person who can help get the paper through this next transition)
They have to finalize this stuff by the end of the day, to tell others who are losing their jobs. I hate the feeling that my staying means someone else has to go, but I know I did not create that situation and I should not feel guilty about it. They are grownups and can find themselves new jobs.
It is flattering and all that to be wanted. I don't know how to get beyond the feeling that we are just sticking our fingers in the dams, though. I know they understand there has to be a new business model, but I can't see what that model is from where I sit. But they are only asking me to stay another year.
Argh.
My department head (who I like a lot and who has been good to me)
the managing editor (who I admire a great deal)
and the editor-in-chief (who spent 45 minutes telling me why I am the kind of person who can help get the paper through this next transition)
They have to finalize this stuff by the end of the day, to tell others who are losing their jobs. I hate the feeling that my staying means someone else has to go, but I know I did not create that situation and I should not feel guilty about it. They are grownups and can find themselves new jobs.
It is flattering and all that to be wanted. I don't know how to get beyond the feeling that we are just sticking our fingers in the dams, though. I know they understand there has to be a new business model, but I can't see what that model is from where I sit. But they are only asking me to stay another year.
Argh.
If you fail to pilot your own ship, don't be surprised at what inappropriate port you find yourself docked. - Tom Robbins
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At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you. - attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
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At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you. - attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
- themanintheseersuckersuit
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So what's best for Ellyn?
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
- Ritterskoop
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I am debating whether to take a buyout, and maybe get an advisor job on campus or on an ethics hotline or teaching high school English.a1mamacat wrote:What did I miss?
I am also trying to figure out the future of the newspaper/news media industry, which smarter people than me can't predict.
So it's a big task for the next few hours.
If you fail to pilot your own ship, don't be surprised at what inappropriate port you find yourself docked. - Tom Robbins
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At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you. - attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
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At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you. - attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
- mellytu74
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I know you are concerned that the business will fold under you.
If you stay the year, will you still get the buyout $$ and support mechanisms such as job searching assistance/support?
Could you get it in writing that you would get the buyout $$$, since you are staying as a favor to people you like?
I was thinking that you could maybe search for the job through your waning days at the newspaper. That way, eight months down the road, have something lined up for a year from now.
If you stay the year, will you still get the buyout $$ and support mechanisms such as job searching assistance/support?
Could you get it in writing that you would get the buyout $$$, since you are staying as a favor to people you like?
I was thinking that you could maybe search for the job through your waning days at the newspaper. That way, eight months down the road, have something lined up for a year from now.
- SportsFan68
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Can't think of anything nonlame to put into the discussion. So I'll say good luck -- whatever you decide, I hope it turns out for the best.
-- In Iroquois society, leaders are encouraged to remember seven generations in the past and consider seven generations in the future when making decisions that affect the people.
-- America would be a better place if leaders would do more long-term thinking. -- Wilma Mankiller
-- America would be a better place if leaders would do more long-term thinking. -- Wilma Mankiller
- PlacentiaSoccerMom
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I think that there will always be newspapers.Ritterskoop wrote:I am debating whether to take a buyout, and maybe get an advisor job on campus or on an ethics hotline or teaching high school English.a1mamacat wrote:What did I miss?
I am also trying to figure out the future of the newspaper/news media industry, which smarter people than me can't predict.
So it's a big task for the next few hours.
I like reading the news and receiving the ads and the coupons. Jeff likes the crossword puzzles. Emma likes the comics and Maddie likes the Movie/TV section. To be perfectly honest, even though I can get my news online, it's nice to read while eating a bowl of cereal or while doing other things.
- PlacentiaSoccerMom
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Re: Back on the fence
Ritterskoop wrote:I have had calls all morning from Observer people wanting me to stay:
My department head (who I like a lot and who has been good to me)
the managing editor (who I admire a great deal)
and the editor-in-chief (who spent 45 minutes telling me why I am the kind of person who can help get the paper through this next transition)
They have to finalize this stuff by the end of the day, to tell others who are losing their jobs. I hate the feeling that my staying means someone else has to go, but I know I did not create that situation and I should not feel guilty about it. They are grownups and can find themselves new jobs.
It is flattering and all that to be wanted. I don't know how to get beyond the feeling that we are just sticking our fingers in the dams, though. I know they understand there has to be a new business model, but I can't see what that model is from where I sit. But they are only asking me to stay another year.
Argh.
What would make you happiest?
- ulysses5019
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Yep. As long as there are birds in cages and fish in the fishmarket.PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I think that there will always be newspapers.Ritterskoop wrote:I am debating whether to take a buyout, and maybe get an advisor job on campus or on an ethics hotline or teaching high school English.a1mamacat wrote:What did I miss?
I am also trying to figure out the future of the newspaper/news media industry, which smarter people than me can't predict.
So it's a big task for the next few hours.
I like reading the news and receiving the ads and the coupons. Jeff likes the crossword puzzles. Emma likes the comics and Maddie likes the Movie/TV section. To be perfectly honest, even though I can get my news online, it's nice to read while eating a bowl of cereal or while doing other things.
I believe in the usefulness of useless information.
- Ritterskoop
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- silvercamaro
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- Ritterskoop
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I have never been courted like that before. I think maybe now they see what I was trying to get at, about doing more tutoring or teaching or mentoring. I think they will make some of that happen in the new world.
Or not. But until I get this insulin-resistance deal worked out, I should not be making drastic changes in other areas. The stability of a nice paycheck and good health care plan will help with that.
I am still teaching two courses in the fall, so that's not going away.
Thanks everyone for the support.
Or not. But until I get this insulin-resistance deal worked out, I should not be making drastic changes in other areas. The stability of a nice paycheck and good health care plan will help with that.
I am still teaching two courses in the fall, so that's not going away.
Thanks everyone for the support.
If you fail to pilot your own ship, don't be surprised at what inappropriate port you find yourself docked. - Tom Robbins
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At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you. - attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
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At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you. - attributed to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
- tlynn78
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There is always a reason for things happening the way they do, even if it takes us a while to decipher them. Best o' luck, Skoopy.
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