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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#26 Post by littlebeast13 » Tue May 09, 2023 12:36 am

I think this will be the completed list of songs, so I've removed the lyrics. Frank's disclaimer about the Tangredi reminded me of the game I did five years ago. We're not looking for a specific formula, we're looking for a concept...


Identify the 85 songs below. Then, match them into 5 quartets, 9 trios, 20 duets, and 5 solos according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Seven songs will be used twice.

No song will be matched with itself. As for the Tangredi, there are some variations to it. Just like in real life.

1.THE BATTLE HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC - JULIA WARD HOWE
2. GREAT BALLS OF FIRE - JERRY LEE LEWIS
3. TARZAN BOY - BALTIMORA
4. BRICK - BEN FOLDS FIVE
5. HAVE YOU SEEN HER - THE CHI-LITES
6. GOLD DIGGER - KANYE WEST
7. LONELY NO MORE - ROB THOMAS
8. DO THEY KNOW IT'S CHRISTMAS - BAND AID
9. TWILIGHT TIME - THE PLATTERS
10. IT'S A SMALL WORLD
11. ALL I WANNA DO - SHERYL CROW
12. LOVE IS STRANGE - MICKEY AND SYLVIA
13. EVERYONE’S A LITTLE BIT RACIST - AVENUE Q
14. ROCK AND ROLL HOOTCHIE COO - RICK DERRINGER
15. LITTLE WILLY - SWEET
16. ALL ABOUT THAT BASS - MEGHAN TRAINOR
17. ORDINARY WORLD - DURAN DURAN
18. BOOM BOOM POW - BLACK EYED PEAS
19. LIFE IS A HIGHWAY - TOM COCHRANE
20. GOT TO GIVE IT UP - MARVIN GAYE
21. BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE - TALKING HEADS
22. ONE THING LEADS TO ANOTHER - THE FIXX
23. GOODBYE TO EARL - THE DIXIE CHICKS
24. MAKING LOVE OUT OF NOTHING AT ALL -- AIR SUPPLY
25. LOOKIN' OUT MY BACK DOOR - CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL
26. HARD TO SAY I'M SORRY - CHICAGO
27. WELCOME TO MY NIGHTMARE - ALICE COOPER
28. THANK GOD IT'S FRIDAY - LOVE AND KISSES
29. ON THE SUNNY SIDE OF THE STREET - TOMMY DORSEY
30. SWEET LITTLE SIXTEEN - CHUCK BERRY
31. JAM UP AND JELLY TIGHT - TOMMY ROE
32. JIVE TALKING - BEE GEES
33. LITTLE WHITE DUCK
34. RIGHT HERE WAITING -- RICHARD MARX
35. DAY IS DONE - PETER PAUL AND MARY
36. WE’LL SING IN THE SUNSHINE
37. RUNNING ON EMPTY -- JACKSON BROWNE
38. PEACE TRAIN - CAT STEVENS
39. MR. DIEINGLY SAD - THE CRITTERS
40. NEVER BEEN TO ME - SYLVIA
41. THE NAUGHTY LADY OF SHADY LANE
42. BACK OFF BOOGALOO - RINGO STARR
43. POOR LITTLE FOOL - RICKY NELSON
44. FOR ME AND MY GAL
45. MISSISSIPPI QUEEN - MOUNTAIN
46. EMOTION IN MOTION - RIC OCASEK
47. CLOUD NINE - THE TEMPTATIONS
48. FLY ME TO THE MOON (IN OTHER WORDS)
49. CITY OF NEW ORLEANS - ARLO GUTHRIE
50. TEARDROPS ON MY GUITAR - TAYLOR SWIFT
51. ROCK YOUR BODY - JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE
52. DON’T NEED A GUN - BILLY IDOL
53. DON'T KNOW MUCH - LINDA RONSTADT AND AARON NEVILLE
54. WEST END GIRLS - PET SHOP BOYS
55. IN MY PLACE - COLDPLAY
56. GOING UP THE COUNTRY - CANNED HEAT
57. BABY COME BACK - PLAYER
58. SLOW HAND - THE POINTER SISTERS
59. MELLOW YELLOW - DONOVAN
60. THE THINGS WE DO FOR LOVE - 10CC
61. YOU’RE BEAUTIFUL - JAMES BLUNT
62. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL - TOM JONES
63. PEOPLE GET READY - CURTIS MAYFIELD/THE CHAMBERS BROTHERS/THE IMPRESSIONS/JEFF BECK AND ROD STEWART
64. WHO'S CRYIN' NOW - JOURNEY
65. ALREADY GONE - THE EAGLES
66. BOOGIE FEVER - SYLVERS
67. NAUGHTY GIRL - BEYONCE
68. MY HOME TOWN - TOM LEHRER
69. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
70. TAKE A CHANCE ON ME - ABBA
71. HOLD ME NOW - THOMPSON TWINS
72. SHE CRIED - JAY AND THE AMERICANS
73. JUST LIKE HEAVEN - CURE
74. MISSING - EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL
75. POETRY MAN - PHOEBE SNOW
76. DIRT ROAD ANTHEM - JASON ALDEAN
77. THIS DIAMOND RING - GARY LEWIS AND THE PLAYBOYS
78. LITTLE MISS CAN'T BE WRONG - SPIN DOCTORS
79. THERE'S NOTHING HOLDIN' ME BACK - SHAWN MENDES
80. TEDDY BEAR - ELVIS
81. BOOGIE WONDERLAND - EARTH WIND AND FIRE
82. EBONY EYES - BOB WELCH
83. LULLABY OF BROADWAY
84. I'M A BELIEVER - THE MONKEES
85. IN THE AIR TONIGHT - PHIL COLLINS
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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#27 Post by mikehardware » Mon May 29, 2023 6:45 am

I’ll give this a try. It could be a coincidence, but some song titles and lyrics have things in common.

38. Peace Train
49. City of New Orleans
63. People Get Ready
All about trains

29. On the Sunny Side of the Street
36. We’ll Sing in the Sunshine
84. I’m a Believer (when I needed sunshine I got rain)

Looks like others would be possible.

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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#28 Post by mikehardware » Mon May 29, 2023 6:51 am

21. Burning Down the House
68. My Home Town (I remember Sam
He was the village idiot
And though it seems a pity, it was so
He loved to burn down houses just to watch the glow
And nothing could be done
Because he was the mayor's son)

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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#29 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:53 pm

Hey beast!

Mind sharing what your game was that you said reminded you of this one?

I don't remember it, and I'm coming up empty trying to come up with a Tangredi here.
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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#30 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:46 am

mrkelley23 wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:53 pm
Hey beast!

Mind sharing what your game was that you said reminded you of this one?

I don't remember it, and I'm coming up empty trying to come up with a Tangredi here.
This one.

I'm thinking there may be multiple ways to apply the Tangredi, like in that old game of mine. I've been stewing on the "canned" in the title and the "variations, just like in real life" that Frank gave in the intro trying to put something together, all to no avail...

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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#31 Post by franktangredi » Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:19 am

This is a tough one, but like so many other games, the Tangredi can be expressed in less than a dozen words.

I will offer you one pointer: the artists of the songs on this list don't matter.

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mrkelley23 wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:53 pm
Hey beast!

Mind sharing what your game was that you said reminded you of this one?

I don't remember it, and I'm coming up empty trying to come up with a Tangredi here.
This one.

I'm thinking there may be multiple ways to apply the Tangredi, like in that old game of mine. I've been stewing on the "canned" in the title and the "variations, just like in real life" that Frank gave in the intro trying to put something together, all to no avail...

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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#32 Post by littlebeast13 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:38 am

While waiting for a lengthy download last night, I took a good, hard look at this game. Even eliminating the artists (which I'd already suspected were irrelevant), I don't have much more than I noticed when I first compiled the complete song list. And while they may be way off base, here's a few things that have stood out to me....

- There are six songs in this game, including two of the non-pop music entries, that contain the word LITTLE. While that word isn't exactly uncommon in song titles, I'm not sure a random selection of 85 songs is likely to spit it out six times...

- I also noted there were two BOOGIE songs along with a BOOGALOO and a BOOM BOOM. Combined with the LITTLE thing, that got me noticing just how many double letters there are in this game. I mean, MISSISSIPPI anyone?

- On the repetition front, there's MELLOW YELLOW and EMOTION IN MOTION, along with a few others that kinda repeat letters or syllables.

- And unrelated to all of that, a lot of the titles contain titles of other songs within them... though I strongly suspect that's not an avenue this game goes down, it does kinda seem to be prevalent more than you'd expect.

- I really think Frank was tossing us a hint with the "Tangredi can be expressed in less than a dozen words" line. The literal first thing that popped in my mind was the word "condensed," and a lot of canned things are condensed.... but again, I think that's overthinking on my part as I have no clue how it would apply to this game....


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#33 Post by kroxquo » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:00 am

Just spit balling an idea

There seem to be a lot of contractions:
Do They Know It's Christmas
It's a Small World
Everyone's a Little Bit Racist
Thank God It's Friday
We'll Sing In the Sunshine
Don't Need a Gun
Don't Know Much
You're Beautiful
It's Not Unusual
Who's Crying Now
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#34 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:31 am

Some blind alleys I've gone down recently:

Thought Canned might be a reference to Cannes film festival, checked titles of award-winning films there.

Thought Canned might be a reference to movie music in general, so checked things like Oscar winners for best song and score. No luck.

Thought Canned might be a reference to getting fired, so checked several lists of worst songs ever.

Wondered if "Just like in real life" might be a cryptic clue. "Real Life" is both the title of a song by The Weeknd, and a song in tick, tick ... Boom! the movie musical about Jonathan Larsen and Rent. Got excited when I saw the Boom! since we have boom boom pow on the list, but so far, no luck.

Still wondering about Frank's comment about "the artists of the songs ON THIS LIST don't matter. Like maybe there's another list of 39 songs and/or artists that we can assemble from pieces of the titles on this one. I went down this rabbit hole several times in several different ways, and I'm still not convinced it's not the key.
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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#35 Post by franktangredi » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:27 am

mrkelley23 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:31 am
Still wondering about Frank's comment about "the artists of the songs ON THIS LIST don't matter. Like maybe there's another list of 39 songs and/or artists that we can assemble from pieces of the titles on this one. I went down this rabbit hole several times in several different ways, and I'm still not convinced it's not the key.
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#36 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:09 pm

OK, I see a whole lot of songs in the titles now.... including a few that are too good to be coincidental. Not sure what the connection is though....


4. BRICK + 21. HOUSE - The Commodores
30. SWEET + 46. EMOTION - Aerosmith
20. GIVE + 13. A LITTLE BIT - Supertramp
7. LONELY + 50. TEARDROPS - Jackie Wilson
12. LOVE IS + 85. IN THE AIR - John Paul Young
5. HAVE YOU + 40. NEVER BEEN + 59. MELLOW - Olivia Newton John


And of course, there are plenty of whole titles within the titles to account for the solo matches, but there's no telling which ones they might be until we figure out the theme....
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#37 Post by Vandal » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:33 pm

23. GOODBYE + 59. YELLOW + 4. BRICK + 76. ROAD - Elton John
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#38 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:40 pm

Vandal wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:33 pm
23. GOODBYE + 59. YELLOW + 4. BRICK + 76. ROAD - Elton John
And I know Sad Eyes is in this game.....

Are we looking for JOHNs?


As in THAT kind of can?

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#39 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:44 pm

So we'll keep these two:

12. LOVE IS + 85. IN THE AIR - JOHN Paul Young
5. HAVE YOU + 40. NEVER BEEN + 59. MELLOW - Olivia Newton JOHN

Add Vandal's:

23. GOODBYE + 59. YELLOW + 4. BRICK + 76. ROAD - Elton JOHN


And...

39. SAD + 82. EYES - Robert JOHN
34. RIGHT + 55. PLACE + 78. WRONG + 9. TIME - Dr. JOHN
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#40 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:49 pm

I doubt there are 39 artists with just JOHN in their name, so......

77. RING + 2. OF FIRE = JOHNNY Cash
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#41 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:52 pm

One of the singles...

36. SUNSHINE - JONATHAN Edwards
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#42 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:58 pm

Identify the 85 songs below. Then, match them into 5 quartets, 9 trios, 20 duets, and 5 solos according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Seven songs will be used twice.

No song will be matched with itself. As for the Tangredi, there are some variations to it. Just like in real life.


1.THE BATTLE HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC - JULIA WARD HOWE
*2. GREAT BALLS OF FIRE - JERRY LEE LEWIS
3. TARZAN BOY - BALTIMORA
*4. BRICK - BEN FOLDS FIVE
*5. HAVE YOU SEEN HER - THE CHI-LITES
6. GOLD DIGGER - KANYE WEST
7. LONELY NO MORE - ROB THOMAS
8. DO THEY KNOW IT'S CHRISTMAS - BAND AID
*9. TWILIGHT TIME - THE PLATTERS
10. IT'S A SMALL WORLD
11. ALL I WANNA DO - SHERYL CROW
*12. LOVE IS STRANGE - MICKEY AND SYLVIA
13. EVERYONE’S A LITTLE BIT RACIST - AVENUE Q
14. ROCK AND ROLL HOOTCHIE COO - RICK DERRINGER
15. LITTLE WILLY - SWEET
16. ALL ABOUT THAT BASS - MEGHAN TRAINOR
17. ORDINARY WORLD - DURAN DURAN
18. BOOM BOOM POW - BLACK EYED PEAS
19. LIFE IS A HIGHWAY - TOM COCHRANE
20. GOT TO GIVE IT UP - MARVIN GAYE
21. BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE - TALKING HEADS
22. ONE THING LEADS TO ANOTHER - THE FIXX
*23. GOODBYE TO EARL - THE DIXIE CHICKS
24. MAKING LOVE OUT OF NOTHING AT ALL -- AIR SUPPLY
25. LOOKIN' OUT MY BACK DOOR - CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL
26. HARD TO SAY I'M SORRY - CHICAGO
27. WELCOME TO MY NIGHTMARE - ALICE COOPER
28. THANK GOD IT'S FRIDAY - LOVE AND KISSES
29. ON THE SUNNY SIDE OF THE STREET - TOMMY DORSEY
30. SWEET LITTLE SIXTEEN - CHUCK BERRY
31. JAM UP AND JELLY TIGHT - TOMMY ROE
32. JIVE TALKING - BEE GEES
33. LITTLE WHITE DUCK
*34. RIGHT HERE WAITING -- RICHARD MARX
35. DAY IS DONE - PETER PAUL AND MARY
*36. WE’LL SING IN THE SUNSHINE
37. RUNNING ON EMPTY -- JACKSON BROWNE
38. PEACE TRAIN - CAT STEVENS
*39. MR. DIEINGLY SAD - THE CRITTERS
*40. NEVER BEEN TO ME - SYLVIA
41. THE NAUGHTY LADY OF SHADY LANE
42. BACK OFF BOOGALOO - RINGO STARR
43. POOR LITTLE FOOL - RICKY NELSON
44. FOR ME AND MY GAL
45. MISSISSIPPI QUEEN - MOUNTAIN
46. EMOTION IN MOTION - RIC OCASEK
47. CLOUD NINE - THE TEMPTATIONS
48. FLY ME TO THE MOON (IN OTHER WORDS)
49. CITY OF NEW ORLEANS - ARLO GUTHRIE
50. TEARDROPS ON MY GUITAR - TAYLOR SWIFT
51. ROCK YOUR BODY - JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE
52. DON’T NEED A GUN - BILLY IDOL
53. DON'T KNOW MUCH - LINDA RONSTADT AND AARON NEVILLE
54. WEST END GIRLS - PET SHOP BOYS
*55. IN MY PLACE - COLDPLAY
56. GOING UP THE COUNTRY - CANNED HEAT
57. BABY COME BACK - PLAYER
58. SLOW HAND - THE POINTER SISTERS
**59. MELLOW YELLOW - DONOVAN
60. THE THINGS WE DO FOR LOVE - 10CC
61. YOU’RE BEAUTIFUL - JAMES BLUNT
62. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL - TOM JONES
63. PEOPLE GET READY - CURTIS MAYFIELD/THE CHAMBERS BROTHERS/THE IMPRESSIONS/JEFF BECK AND ROD STEWART
64. WHO'S CRYIN' NOW - JOURNEY
65. ALREADY GONE - THE EAGLES
66. BOOGIE FEVER - SYLVERS
67. NAUGHTY GIRL - BEYONCE
68. MY HOME TOWN - TOM LEHRER
69. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
70. TAKE A CHANCE ON ME - ABBA
71. HOLD ME NOW - THOMPSON TWINS
72. SHE CRIED - JAY AND THE AMERICANS
73. JUST LIKE HEAVEN - CURE
74. MISSING - EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL
75. POETRY MAN - PHOEBE SNOW
*76. DIRT ROAD ANTHEM - JASON ALDEAN
*77. THIS DIAMOND RING - GARY LEWIS AND THE PLAYBOYS
*78. LITTLE MISS CAN'T BE WRONG - SPIN DOCTORS
79. THERE'S NOTHING HOLDIN' ME BACK - SHAWN MENDES
80. TEDDY BEAR - ELVIS
81. BOOGIE WONDERLAND - EARTH WIND AND FIRE
*82. EBONY EYES - BOB WELCH
83. LULLABY OF BROADWAY
84. I'M A BELIEVER - THE MONKEES
*85. IN THE AIR TONIGHT - PHIL COLLINS



Tangredi: Make titles of songs recorded by an artist with some variation of JOHN in their name.

MATCHES:

12. LOVE IS + 85. IN THE AIR - JOHN Paul Young
5. HAVE YOU + 40. NEVER BEEN + 59. MELLOW - Olivia Newton JOHN
23. GOODBYE + 59. YELLOW + 4. BRICK + 76. ROAD - Elton JOHN
39. SAD + 82. EYES - Robert JOHN
34. RIGHT + 55. PLACE + 78. WRONG + 9. TIME - Dr. JOHN
77. RING + 2. OF FIRE = JOHNNY Cash
36. SUNSHINE - JONATHAN Edwards
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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#43 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:59 pm

That is too awesome. I had seen almost all of the titles you listed, but I never got all the Johns out of it.

Good Lord.

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#44 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:07 pm

Was going to add Welcome Back by John Sebastian, but we have multiple "back" songs in the game....

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#45 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:13 pm

10. SMALL + 68. TOWN = SMALL TOWN, JOHN Mellencamp

51. YOUR BODY + 19. IS A + 81. WONDERLAND = JOHN Mayer

28. THANK GOD + 84. I'M A + 56. COUNTRY + 3. BOY = JOHN Denver

41. NAUGHTY + 67. NAUGHTY = JOHN Parr. I found this one early on and just said eh, who's going to write a game with John Parr in it? Frank, I guess.

6. GOLD = JOHN Stewart

18. BOOM BOOM = JOHN Lee Hooker
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#46 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:13 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:07 pm
Was going to add Welcome Back by John Sebastian, but we have multiple "back" songs in the game....

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#47 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:22 pm

17. ORDINARY + 63. PEOPLE = JOHN Legend

73. JUST + 22. ANOTHER + 35. DAY = JON Secada

possible 74. MISSING + ? YOU = JOHN Waite
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#48 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:40 pm

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Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:22 pm
possible 74. MISSING + ? YOU = JOHN Waite
74. MISSING + 4. YOU - JOHN Waite
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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#49 Post by franktangredi » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:45 pm

A lot happened while I was away!

This one is a variant of my old Pop Muzik game, where the artists were all groups that started with the letter M.

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Re: Game #212: Canned Music

#50 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:49 pm

Another one that I saw very early on, but couldn't come up with any possible connection:

1. THE BATTLE + 49. OF NEW ORLEANS = JOHNNY Horton

43. POOR + 29. SIDE OF + 68. TOWN + JOHNNY Rivers

This uses town twice, but one thing I noticed is that Frank did NOT say this time that multiples will be used in different ways, so I guess it's still okay.
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