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#1 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:12 pm

What a comedy of errors. How did he have access, why weren't gummint spooks onto his online stuff, are docs real, etc?
Something stinks.
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#2 Post by BackInTex » Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:25 pm

What is not being discussed here is what the leaks contained about how well The Ukraine is doing agains Russia. Seems our Bored experts have been listening to the published propoganda.
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#3 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:56 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:12 pm
What a comedy of errors. How did he have access, why weren't gummint spooks onto his online stuff, are docs real, etc?
Something stinks.
What's really amazing is how the Washington Post and New York Times outed him before the FBI or any other investigative agency could.
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#4 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:40 pm

Marjorie Taylor Greene wrote:Jake Teixeira is white, male, christian, and antiwar. That makes him an enemy to the Biden regime. And he told the truth about troops being on the ground in Ukraine and a lot more. Ask yourself who is the real enemy? A young low level national guardsmen? Or the administration that is waging war in Ukraine, a non-NATO nation, against nuclear Russia without war powers?
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#5 Post by BackInTex » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:42 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:56 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:12 pm
What a comedy of errors. How did he have access, why weren't gummint spooks onto his online stuff, are docs real, etc?
Something stinks.
What's really amazing is how the Washington Post and New York Times outed him before the FBI or any other investigative agency could.
That's because the FBI under Garland is more interested in what Trump was and is doing than anything else.
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#6 Post by Weyoun » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:52 pm

As I have said here previously, the fascist right in this country is antiwar and anti military, which seems like a tension until you realize that their conspiracy theories don’t make sense, so of course their actions (joining the military while hating the US) wouldn’t make sense either

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#7 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:56 pm

Bit, the fbi or whomever nsa, nia, are fucked up. They should be able to scope this shit out regardless of Trump crap. If fbi is pulling resources because of trump then yeah big bad shit all around. MTG is an idiot.
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#8 Post by Beebs52 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:15 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:52 pm
As I have said here previously, the fascist right in this country is antiwar and anti military, which seems like a tension until you realize that their conspiracy theories don’t make sense, so of course their actions (joining the military while hating the US) wouldn’t make sense either
This is sorta not understandable. Has nothing to do with intel fuckups.
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#9 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:40 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:25 pm
What is not being discussed here is what the leaks contained about how well The Ukraine is doing agains Russia. Seems our Bored experts have been listening to the published propoganda.
The only propaganda I know is Tucker Carlson's made-up casualty figures. He said, "Seven Ukrainians are being killed for every Russian".

https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker- ... nts-2023-4
A recently leaked US intelligence document paints a very different picture of the casualties in the war.

The document suggests that Russia has suffered between 189,500 and 223,000 casualties, with up to 43,000 troops killed in action, while Ukraine has suffered between 124,500 and 131,000 casualties, with up to 17,500 soldiers killed in action.

The leaked document was subsequently altered and shared around Russian Telegram accounts to falsely show the reverse: that Russia had suffered fewer casualties. But even those faked numbers were still lower casualty rates than what Carlson referenced.

A representative for Fox News did not immediately respond to a request for comment by Insider on Friday.
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#10 Post by jarnon » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:34 pm

Teixeira wasn't trying to be a "whistleblower" like Snowden or Reality Winner. He stole classified documents and posted them on a website that resembles our Bored in order to impress his friends.

Clearance investigations focus on relationships with foreigners. A doofus who reveals secrets for the fun of it isn't on their radar. (Hopefully it will be from now on.)

The documents could include fake "secrets" planted to fool spies. We'll probably never find out.

Teixeira is known for his antisemitic rants. That might impress MTG.
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#11 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:27 pm

jarnon wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:34 pm
A doofus who reveals secrets for the fun of it [or to impress his friends] isn't on their radar.
One of those used to work in the Oval Office. That's probably why Marjorie Taylor Greene is trying to minimize this. --Bob
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#12 Post by Weyoun » Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:08 am

jarnon wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:34 pm
Teixeira wasn't trying to be a "whistleblower" like Snowden or Reality Winner. He stole classified documents and posted them on a website that resembles our Bored in order to impress his friends.

Clearance investigations focus on relationships with foreigners. A doofus who reveals secrets for the fun of it isn't on their radar. (Hopefully it will be from now on.)

The documents could include fake "secrets" planted to fool spies. We'll probably never find out.

Teixeira is known for his antisemitic rants. That might impress MTG.
I hope it’s just as simple as a guy trying to show off, but I fear it is more complicated than that.

There is a stronger undercurrent in this country that wants us to fail, because we are perceived as being too woke.

Spock was actively rooting or Vladimir Putin, because he felt he represented old-line, conservative values, and that the Ukraine, a former Eastern bloc country, was somehow an island of homosexualism in the Slavic world. It didn’t make any sense, but illogical things happen when you start hating third parties you have never met.

And I strongly suspect that chat group had a strong with of the country falling apart because of “woke” policies, so anything Biden does deserved to be undermined.

And this is all an extension of MAGA - implying that current America isn’t great, and instead of trying to make it stronger, working to make it worse for those you think ruined it.

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#13 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:44 am

Weyoun wrote:
Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:08 am
And I strongly suspect that chat group had a strong with of the country falling apart because of “woke” policies, so anything Biden does deserved to be undermined.
I read that the chat group was filled with anti-black, anti-Semitic, anti-gay/trans, and anti-Ukrainian posts from numerous members.
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#14 Post by Spock » Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:32 pm

Weyoun>>>"Spock was actively rooting or Vladimir Putin, because he felt he represented old-line, conservative values, and that the Ukraine, a former Eastern bloc country, was somehow an island of homosexualism in the Slavic world. It didn’t make any sense, but illogical things happen when you start hating third parties you have never met."<<<

WTF???-Where in the hell did you get that? I guess the nearest I can think of that I posted here is something I got from NPR (note the source) last summer/fall that things might not be going as well for Ukraine as the narrative put out. Note this was from frickin' NPR.

Looks like you have been spending way too much time (for a doctor with young kids) down rabbit holes keeping track of various conspiracy theories that I have never mentioned here (Ukraine-Homosexuality etc) , and frankly only have heard of at the margins-such as from you and yet for some reason you feel compelled to attribute this to me.

I have seen far more rabid right-wing conspiracy theories here from people like SSS, the Bobs and you as you guys build your straw men than I run across anywhere I go on the internet or in real life.

You may have missed it but my main internet home is over at "Frontier Partisans", or as SSS calls it "Sons of the Pioneers", and various stuff related to that sight.

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#15 Post by jarnon » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:05 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:40 pm
The only propaganda I know is Tucker Carlson's made-up casualty figures. He said, "Seven Ukrainians are being killed for every Russian".
This report by Rachel Maddow explains the source of Tucker's disinformation. It's worth watching--the story is wild.

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#16 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm

As usual everything gets derailed here. How did he have access, regardless of his bent.
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#17 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:37 am

Beebs52 wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm
As usual everything gets derailed here. How did he have access, regardless of his bent.
It's not unusual for service personnel his age to have top secret clearance. They put together briefing books and dossiers for senior level staff meetings, and they have guard duty over locations where sensitive documents are kept. Whether Teixeira personally was sufficiently vetted and how many others are out there with possible ulterior motives to leak or take classified documents is another questions. I'm sure the military is re-evaluating its procedures now in the wake of his actions.
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#18 Post by Weyoun » Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:17 pm

More and more info is trickling out about how this guy was crazy, and talked about how mass murder would be something he would consider.

And this is on top of the racist stuff.

I did enjoy how he was supposedly sitting on his front porch, reading a Bible, when the feds came to arrest him. Totally not orchestrated at all.

Big surprise! He seems like a big incel loser who probably was also anti-vax

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