Chinese balloon
- Weyoun
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Re: Chinese balloon
I see that all the usual terrible people think this is a great crisis, though the actual harm occurring isn’t very clear to me.
Weird how the far right wing in this country doesn’t trust the military, just like it doesn’t trust the FBI, but it does trust Putin.
Weird how the far right wing in this country doesn’t trust the military, just like it doesn’t trust the FBI, but it does trust Putin.
- themanintheseersuckersuit
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Re: Chinese balloon
Ground Stop announced at Myrtle Beach Airport due to Chinese Balloon
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
- tlynn78
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Re: Chinese balloon
Shhh!
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Re: Chinese balloon
Wilmington, Cape Fear and Myrtle Beach airports closed. Military Jets flying in circles in the air nearby
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
- themanintheseersuckersuit
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Re: Chinese balloon
I can see it Southeast of me
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
- themanintheseersuckersuit
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Re: Chinese balloon
We saw the shoot down
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
- Beebs52
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- themanintheseersuckersuit
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Re: Chinese balloon
Shot it from below
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
- silverscreenselect
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Re: Chinese balloon
There's a good chance they'll be able to recover most of the debris from the landing site and find out a lot more about what the balloon was doing and what technology was involved than if it crashed on solid ground.
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Re: Chinese balloon
After it had completed it's intelligence gathering mission. I'm sure whatever it captured it has already transmitted back to home base.
Thankfully the Bermuda Triangle will remain a mystery to the Chinese.
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- Beebs52
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Re: Chinese balloon
Hopefully. Conversely, if it had been shot down over land recovery would have been easier what with salt contamination and drifting etcsilverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:37 pmThere's a good chance they'll be able to recover most of the debris from the landing site and find out a lot more about what the balloon was doing and what technology was involved than if it crashed on solid ground.
Well, then
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You do realize they've had spy satellites in place for years (as do we) with much more equipment onboard than the balloon did. Since the balloon had no steering or redirection capacity, most of what it could have captured was shots of empty land.
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- Weyoun
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Wank, wank. I am sure the balloon captured VERY CRITICAL info about Montana.
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There were reports that it was steered.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:46 pmYou do realize they've had spy satellites in place for years (as do we) with much more equipment onboard than the balloon did. Since the balloon had no steering or redirection capacity, most of what it could have captured was shots of empty land.
Well, then
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Are you that oblivious?Weyoun wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:58 pmWank, wank. I am sure the balloon captured VERY CRITICAL info about Montana.
Well, then
- tlynn78
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Re: Chinese balloon
Lol!
Just another example of the lengths some will go to in order to preserve their fragile narrative.
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Re: Chinese balloon
C'mon, man. It left mainland China, somehow (fickle winds!!) Completely missed Russian airspace, just happened to wander over some of our missile silo locations, before heading out to sea.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:00 pmThere were reports that it was steered.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:46 pmYou do realize they've had spy satellites in place for years (as do we) with much more equipment onboard than the balloon did. Since the balloon had no steering or redirection capacity, most of what it could have captured was shots of empty land.
I'm just wondering what story we're being distracted from this time.
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Re: Chinese balloon
I figured you would be dismissive of the whole thing-but I remember 21 and a half years ago-just prior to 9/11, when the Chinese shot down our spy plane and you were all over the Bush Admin for provocations etc etc.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:46 pmYou do realize they've had spy satellites in place for years (as do we) with much more equipment onboard than the balloon did. Since the balloon had no steering or redirection capacity, most of what it could have captured was shots of empty land.
You might not be a paid Chinese agent-but you ALWAYS take their corner. Out of ideological sympathies I presume.
Interesting that you argue that it is not steerable when most reports indicate otherwise.
You might call it empty land-(Taking the Chinese corner again)-thus deflecting attention away from Malmstrom AFB in the center of the state-Great Falls area.
- Weyoun
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Is there some big secret that they are missile silo there? I mean some of them are even on private property. I mean we’re talking about Cold War locations. Who are you kidding?
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Re: Chinese balloon
What's your point? No big deal?
Well, then
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Re: Chinese balloon
That's about what I'd expect from you.
Biden made a decision based on the risk to people below, even those in red states through which the balloon traveled most of the way. As soon as it got over the water, it went down. If they had shot the balloon down over land and it hit somebody, you'd have been blaming Biden for that.
There have already been consequences for the Chinese. Sec of State Blinken canceled a trip to China that the Chinese wanted. And we don't know what has gone on in private with the Chinese.
And talking about taking the Chinese side is hilarious coming from someone who was practically fellating Vladimir Putin prior to the invasion of Ukraine.
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SSS>>>"You do realize they've had spy satellites in place for years (as do we) with much more equipment onboard than the balloon did. Since the balloon had no steering or redirection capacity, most of what it could have captured was shots of empty land.<<<<
I love that you have enough knowledge of the spy capability of various platforms to absolutely know for sure that there are no advantages to a platform that can just hang around an area for awhile instead of just zipping by hundreds of miles in the sky.
I wonder after it randomly floated near Malmstrom AFB and then headed southeast to Missouri, I wonder if it just happened to randomly fly anywhere near Ellsworth AFB, Rapid City, SD.
Just empty lands to you-but pretty important in the strategic picture.
I love that you have enough knowledge of the spy capability of various platforms to absolutely know for sure that there are no advantages to a platform that can just hang around an area for awhile instead of just zipping by hundreds of miles in the sky.
I wonder after it randomly floated near Malmstrom AFB and then headed southeast to Missouri, I wonder if it just happened to randomly fly anywhere near Ellsworth AFB, Rapid City, SD.
Just empty lands to you-but pretty important in the strategic picture.
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I don't know much about the spy capability of various platforms. But our military is going to know a lot more after they fish the remains of the balloon out of the ocean than if it had crashed on top of T-Girl's bathroom.
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#1-SSS>>>"You do realize they've had spy satellites in place for years (as do we) with much more equipment onboard than the balloon did.">>>
#2-Also SSS-later>>>"I don't know much about the spy capability of various platforms But our military is going to know a lot more after they fish the remains of the balloon out of the ocean than if it had crashed on top of T-Girl's bathroom."<<<
OK-are you the same person
#1-presents as a well-qualified expert in remote sensing and spying technology.
#2-Presents as "Gee, gosh golly-IDK much-but the experts will handle it" and throws in a gratuitous slap at T-Girl.
To #1. A question I have always wondered-seriously
If satellites are so great and cover everything-explain how come they could never tell us what happened to Malaysian Air 370?
#2-Also SSS-later>>>"I don't know much about the spy capability of various platforms But our military is going to know a lot more after they fish the remains of the balloon out of the ocean than if it had crashed on top of T-Girl's bathroom."<<<
OK-are you the same person
#1-presents as a well-qualified expert in remote sensing and spying technology.
#2-Presents as "Gee, gosh golly-IDK much-but the experts will handle it" and throws in a gratuitous slap at T-Girl.
To #1. A question I have always wondered-seriously
If satellites are so great and cover everything-explain how come they could never tell us what happened to Malaysian Air 370?