Biden is an asshole

[BackInTex]

Frogman: "I am interested but that is beside the point. A few follow-up questions if you will indulge me - did you see these responses during your normal news consumption or did you google them? Is Mitch McConnell and Senator Thune's responses a cut-and-paste error on your part or did they happen to say the exact same thing - word-for-word? Do you think a typical MAGA supporter would have either seen these responses during their normal news consumption or not? Do you think the typical MAGA republican would care what Mitch McConnell or other main-stream Republicans think and would they have much of an influence on a MAGA's thoughts and acts - or do you think they more than likely respond to the remarks of President Trump, Majorie Taylor Green, Laureen Boebert, etc? Were the remarks of Sen. McConnell and others given widespread coverage on media feeds that cater to right-wing consumers? Do you really believe that the message that the Republican leaders who have said and posted the same rhetoric that the attack posted on his social media account have denounced him in such a way as to make it clear that they will not tolerate or condone such behavior? Cursory searches indicates that the right leaning news outlets are not pushing the idea that Republicans feel that these attacks do not represent who they are but appear to be more focused on either - poor us those mean Democrats are blaming us as being culpable - or that it is really the Dems fault because they only care about crime when it happens to them.

Anyway, I am pretty done with posting on this as I think it is a futile effort and folks are so entrenched in their own sides and the other side must always be wrong regardless of what actually is the facts and actions." --- you certainly have that right.

Googled, all from one site. I didn't go back and check, but the McConnell/Thune thing was probably a copy/paste error on my part. Since I have no idea of what a "MAGA supporter" is, (in your view, I'm guessing not someone who wants to Make America Great Again), I can't answer that; I don't know what others' news consumption patterns are. Additionally, we on the right tend not to be as prescient or adept at mind-reading as the left-leaning geniuses who know exactly what others are thinking and what their motivations might be. I doubt the remarks of McConnell and others denouncing the act were given much media coverage at all, as it doesn't feed the narrative. Why in sweet hell would any news outlet need to "push" the idea that "republicans feel that these attacks do not represent who they are.." unless, ... was the perp wearing "repubs r us" underoos? It truly astonishes me the degree to which the left can continue to twist reality to fit their 'truth'.

And when the twist goes the wrong way they pull the story down.

[frogman042]

Frogman: "I am interested but that is beside the point. A few follow-up questions if you will indulge me - did you see these responses during your normal news consumption or did you google them? Is Mitch McConnell and Senator Thune's responses a cut-and-paste error on your part or did they happen to say the exact same thing - word-for-word? Do you think a typical MAGA supporter would have either seen these responses during their normal news consumption or not? Do you think the typical MAGA republican would care what Mitch McConnell or other main-stream Republicans think and would they have much of an influence on a MAGA's thoughts and acts - or do you think they more than likely respond to the remarks of President Trump, Majorie Taylor Green, Laureen Boebert, etc? Were the remarks of Sen. McConnell and others given widespread coverage on media feeds that cater to right-wing consumers? Do you really believe that the message that the Republican leaders who have said and posted the same rhetoric that the attack posted on his social media account have denounced him in such a way as to make it clear that they will not tolerate or condone such behavior? Cursory searches indicates that the right leaning news outlets are not pushing the idea that Republicans feel that these attacks do not represent who they are but appear to be more focused on either - poor us those mean Democrats are blaming us as being culpable - or that it is really the Dems fault because they only care about crime when it happens to them.

Anyway, I am pretty done with posting on this as I think it is a futile effort and folks are so entrenched in their own sides and the other side must always be wrong regardless of what actually is the facts and actions." --- you certainly have that right.

Googled, all from one site. I didn't go back and check, but the McConnell/Thune thing was probably a copy/paste error on my part. Since I have no idea of what a "MAGA supporter" is, (in your view, I'm guessing not someone who wants to Make America Great Again), I can't answer that; I don't know what others' news consumption patterns are. Additionally, we on the right tend not to be as prescient or adept at mind-reading as the left-leaning geniuses who know exactly what others are thinking and what their motivations might be. I doubt the remarks of McConnell and others denouncing the act were given much media coverage at all, as it doesn't feed the narrative. Why in sweet hell would any news outlet need to "push" the idea that "republicans feel that these attacks do not represent who they are.." unless, ... was the perp wearing "repubs r us" underoos? It truly astonishes me the degree to which the left can continue to twist reality to fit their 'truth'.

Since you took the time to respond - I will add a few thoughts as your response was both thoughtful and civil. I think you missed my point. I wasn't trying to imply that it was the media's responsibility to push a particular narrative or not, nor was it to either widely disseminate the responses of the Republicans you quoted. To me MAGA as I currently use it is a catch all for those who claim (I believe falsely) that the 2020 election was stolen (IMO the only ones who tried to steal the 2020 is Trump along with the other election deniers) as well as those who view political opponents as evil or deserving of political violence. That doesn't mean that that applies to everyone who either in the past supported Trump or who used that label would self-describe themselves as how I characterized it, since you didn't seem to have an idea what a MAGA supporter is - I thought I would share how I used that term. Regarding the 'narrative' you refer to, you might have a point if it was only the left (or if you prefer, the MSM) that was suppressing the comments of McConnell - and it was widely disseminated by the more right-leaning media - but that doesn't appear to be the case. Again, the main point I was trying to make was a simple one. If anyone used my words or echoed my beliefs as a justification of violence and then committed that violence, I personally would do my best to make sure that no one could make the mistake that I either explicitly or tacitly approved of that and I would do my best to make sure that my message on that would get out there. I just don't see that happening, from Trump on down of those who speak at his rallies. As a result they are giving approval to those who commit violence and if it should unfortunately occur again - then yes, they are just as responsible as the perpetrators of those acts.

[BackInTex]

If anyone used my words or echoed my beliefs as a justification of violence and then committed that violence, I personally would do my best to make sure that no one could make the mistake that I either explicitly or tacitly approved of that and I would do my best to make sure that my message on that would get out there. I just don't see that happening, from Trump on down of those who speak at his rallies. As a result they are giving approval to those who commit violence and if it should unfortunately occur again - then yes, they are just as responsible as the perpetrators of those acts.

Not specifically, but that is part of, if not the whole, point of what we are saying. Where has DePape used Republicans' words or expressed with his own voice that Republicans' beliefs are what motivated him to attach Pelosi? No where. It was only the media making the big strecth of his actions to Republican (or specifically Trump) words or beliefs.

Except for zip ties. The only use EVER of zip ties were those Jan 6 guys. So that tie-in was correct.

The only thing we know about DePape is he supports BLM (not really a Republican thing), likes to run around nude (again not really a Republican thing), and he wanted to know where Nancy was.

[Bob78164]

The only thing we know about DePape is he supports BLM (not really a Republican thing), likes to run around nude (again not really a Republican thing), and he wanted to know where Nancy was.

Well, no. We know more than that. --Bob