RIP Stephane Charbonnier, Jean Cabut, Bernard Verlhac, and

[tlynn78]

other than labeling these people as "Islamic terrorists," an act which apparently makes right wingers feel better about themselves

You know, I could argue with you, but it will do no good. You don't want to debate, you just want to denigrate and insult anyone who disagrees with you, just like your President. (He is my President, too, but he has no intention of representing me).

So I'll just say I am just S&T of your ignorant rantings about the motives of conservatives. But what do I know? To you and your ilk, no matter what I say, I breathe through my mouth, so I am to be ridiculed.

If you hate Obama you must really love your new Governor.

Saying ISIS represents all Muslims is like saying the Tea Party represents all Americans.

Saying ISIS represents all Muslims is like saying the Extreme Crazy Far-Right Wingers represents all Republicans.

Fixed that for you.

[silverscreenselect]

So I'll just say I am just S&T of your ignorant rantings about the motives of conservatives. But what do I know? To you and your ilk, no matter what I say, I breathe through my mouth, so I am to be ridiculed.

Please educate me as to how accurate the predictions about the Iraq War were.

[flockofseagulls104]

other than labeling these people as "Islamic terrorists," an act which apparently makes right wingers feel better about themselves

You know, I could argue with you, but it will do no good. You don't want to debate, you just want to denigrate and insult anyone who disagrees with you, just like your President. (He is my President, too, but he has no intention of representing me).

So I'll just say I am just S&T of your ignorant rantings about the motives of conservatives. But what do I know? To you and your ilk, no matter what I say, I breathe through my mouth, so I am to be ridiculed.

If you hate Obama you must really love your new Governor.

Saying ISIS represents all Muslims is like saying the Tea Party represents all Americans.

Ummm, This is another straw dog that idiots like you buy into. ISIS does not represent all Muslims, ok? Can you get that through your pinhead? Can you (and Mr Obama) try and understand that EVERYONE except a small lunatic fraction of the populace understands we are not at war with the religion of Islam. Can you stop addressing the lunatic fringe that you obsess on and acknowledge that we KNOW that?

We are at war with EVIL people who do their evil in the name of islam. They do not do it while saying 'Praise Jesus' or 'Masel Tov' or 'Hari Krishna'. They perpetrate their evil by saying 'Alluah Ahkbar'. And no amount of political correctness, or equating them with actions that happened a thousand years ago is going to change that fact. Whether you hate Republicans, Conservatives or both, we KNOW that and we would appreciate you stopping your crap.

[silverscreenselect]

We are at war with EVIL people who do their evil in the name of islam.

Here's a news flash. There are many, many, many EVIL people in this world. We can't go to war with all of them. Unless you've got some suggestions for how we're going to go about this war against EVIL, you're just blowing hot air to make yourself feel good or to make Obama look bad.

The last time we went to war against an EVIL person (and a Muslim to boot) in that neck of the woods, his name was Saddam Hussein. See how well that worked out.

[flockofseagulls104]

We are at war with EVIL people who do their evil in the name of islam.

Here's a news flash. There are many, many, many EVIL people in this world. We can't go to war with all of them. Unless you've got some suggestions for how we're going to go about this war against EVIL, you're just blowing hot air to make yourself feel good or to make Obama look bad.

The last time we went to war against an EVIL person (and a Muslim to boot) in that neck of the woods, his name was Saddam Hussein. See how well that worked out.

There are plenty of suggestions on how we can deal with these evil people. If you listen, you might hear some. The vast majority of them are much more effective than what is being done. The first step is to identify who they are, which is what this administration will not do.

I don't have to make Obama look bad. He does fine all by himself.

I see how well that worked out. Many brave Americans gave their lives to rid Iraq of Islamic Terrorists. Obama's idiotic policies have allowed them back. Mission Accomplished.

[silverscreenselect]

I see how well that worked out. Many brave Americans gave their lives to rid Iraq of Islamic Terrorists. Obama's idiotic policies have allowed them back. Mission Accomplished.

No, many brave Americans gave their lives to rid Iraq of a nasty dictator who wasn't an Islamic terrorist and who posed no threat to the United States. With him gone, we now have Islamic terrorists in Iraq. That was Bush's folly, not Obama's.

And we know who they are. They're not exactly making their identities a secret. But knowing who they are and figuring out how best to get rid of them without setting in place the mechanism to create even more terrorists in a few more years is the problem.

Mission Accomplished.

[Bob Juch]

We are at war with EVIL people who do their evil in the name of islam.

Here's a news flash. There are many, many, many EVIL people in this world. We can't go to war with all of them. Unless you've got some suggestions for how we're going to go about this war against EVIL, you're just blowing hot air to make yourself feel good or to make Obama look bad.

The last time we went to war against an EVIL person (and a Muslim to boot) in that neck of the woods, his name was Saddam Hussein. See how well that worked out.

There are plenty of suggestions on how we can deal with these evil people. If you listen, you might hear some. The vast majority of them are much more effective than what is being done. The first step is to identify who they are, which is what this administration will not do.

I don't have to make Obama look bad. He does fine all by himself.

I see how well that worked out. Many brave Americans gave their lives to rid Iraq of Islamic Terrorists. Obama's idiotic policies have allowed them back. Mission Accomplished.

There were no terrorists in Iraq before the Gulf Wars. There were very few in Afghanistan too. Our actions created new terrorists and let the others come in. That was all on the Bushes.

[Bob78164]

I see how well that worked out. Many brave Americans gave their lives to rid Iraq of Islamic Terrorists. Obama's idiotic policies have allowed them back. Mission Accomplished.

No, many brave Americans gave their lives to rid Iraq of a nasty dictator who wasn't an Islamic terrorist and who posed no threat to the United States. With him gone, we now have Islamic terrorists in Iraq. That was Bush's folly, not Obama's.

And we know who they are. They're not exactly making their identities a secret. But knowing who they are and figuring out how best to get rid of them without setting in place the mechanism to create even more terrorists in a few more years is the problem.

Mission Accomplished.

But at least we got rid of his weapons of mass destruction. Good thing we knew where they were. --Bob

[flockofseagulls104]

Going back to 'safe' territory now, are we? It's all Bush's fault. lol.

[flockofseagulls104]

George W Bush, July 12 2007:

“I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we’re ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al-Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean we’d be increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.”

That is exactly what has happened.

But our President's solution is to give the 'violent extremists' jobs, even though he doesn't even know how to create a non government job here. Other than that, we'll announce a half hearted military response, and we'll tell the enemy exactly when and what we're going to do.

I thought Obama was going to make the Middle East love the US....

[silverscreenselect]

George W Bush, July 12 2007:

“I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we’re ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al-Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean we’d be increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.”

That is exactly what has happened.

This is the same GWB who said Mission Accomplished. Who said there were WMD in Iraq.

Yes, it's his fault. He invaded the country. When he did this, Barack Obama was a city councilman in Chicago.

And of course, Isis is not Al Qaeda. There was no "Al Qaeda in Iraq."

You could keep American troops in Iraq for 50 years and there would still be problems. And you can laugh about creating jobs but the people who have been joining Isis are not hardcore fanatics to begin with. They are disaffected youth who are vulnerable to the types of blandishments that the hardcore types offer. It's the same as with any cult; they hook in the young ones without any really firm belief structure and wind up converting them.

The vast majority of the fanatics we're dealing with weren't fanatics five or ten years ago. They've been subverted to that way of thinking. Eliminate them and do nothing about the root causes of the problems and in 5-10 more years you'll have another ISIS on your hands, going by a different name perhaps, but the same problem.

[Bob78164]

But our President's solution is to give the 'violent extremists' jobs, even though he doesn't even know how to create a non government job here.

Once again, you have your facts wrong. Virtually the entire growth in the job market is non-government jobs.

In past recessions, government hiring recovered much faster than private hiring. This increase helped end past recessions sooner by bolstering employment throughout the economy. This time around, thanks in significant part to the sequester and the federal government's inability (thanks to Republican opposition) to provide financial support to state governments, government employment is only now returning to pre-recession numbers. The millions of jobs the economy has added since President Obama took office are pretty much all private sector jobs. --Bob

[flockofseagulls104]

But our President's solution is to give the 'violent extremists' jobs, even though he doesn't even know how to create a non government job here.

Once again, you have your facts wrong. Virtually the entire growth in the job market is non-government jobs.

In past recessions, government hiring recovered much faster than private hiring. This increase helped end past recessions sooner by bolstering employment throughout the economy. This time around, thanks in significant part to the sequester and the federal government's inability (thanks to Republican opposition) to provide financial support to state governments, government employment is only now returning to pre-recession numbers. The millions of jobs the economy has added since President Obama took office are pretty much all private sector jobs. --Bob

Look I don't want to get into a wonk argument. I don't have my facts wrong. I just don't stop looking for facts after what is reported by the leftstream media and Obama syncophants. The active labor force is reported to be about what it was in 1978. The unemployment figures that the government releases and the media parrots are misleading because they do not count the people who have dropped out of the workforce according the 'rules'. Our real unemployment rate is double digits. And while millions of jobs may have been created (nothing Obama has done has created them), they are outnumbered by the number of jobs that have disappeared since he took office. And he can take partial responsibility for that because of the glut of burdensome regulations and taxes he has added that have affected small businesses. I could go and quote you 'facts' that support what I'm saying, but you'll just go and quote 'facts' that support what you are saying. I'm tired of it.

The gist of the matter is that I think our country differs from the vast majority of other countries because we have a Constitution that specifically says what the Federal Government can do and what it can't do. And everything else that is not specifically addressed in that document is up to the individual states and to the people. At the time of our inception, it was unique and is still the exception rather than the rule. Obama has ignored that document, and he is not alone in doing that. Pretty much all the Democrat party and most of the Republican Party seem to have no clue what that document is and what it says. Obama has a vision of what America should be that I do not share, and he does not represent me or my point of view. In fact he has shown disdain for my point of view and my values on occasions to numerous to list. In my opinion Obama has and is taking this country in the wrong direction.

[Bob78164]

Look I don't want to get into a wonk argument. I don't have my facts wrong. . . . And while millions of jobs may have been created (nothing Obama has done has created them), they are outnumbered by the number of jobs that have disappeared since he took office.

You do have your facts wrong, and that's why it's a bad idea for you to get into a fact-based (or, as you call it, a "wonk") argument. The country has millions more jobs now than it did when Obama took office. It even has millions more jobs now than it did at the start of the Great Recession. And unlike in previous recessions, pretty much the entirety of the growth is in the private sector. In previous recessions, a significant growth in government jobs cushioned the blow. Republican policies made sure that couldn't happen this time around.

You're also mistaken when you say that nothing President Obama has done contributed to the job creation. By resisting wrongheaded Republican calls for austerity or, worse, balanced budget, and by seeing with clear eyes that the predictions of runaway inflation that we've been hearing from Republicans for the last five or six years were simply stupid, he prevented us from making the same mistakes Japan made in the 1990s, mistakes from which they are still trying to recover. --Bob