Transcript 12/04/2013 Josh Levin

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Josh Levin
Somerville, MA

$29100 banked

Josh said he promised his roommates that he would get a popcorn machine since microwave popcorn does not "cut it."

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Air Guitar Lingo
Title Fight
Gosling in The House
Same Name
$3000
$5000 x 2
$15000
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$1000
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Question 7 - Same Name
Having several entries for such a common name, Wikipedia lists all but which of the following as pages for "Jack Black"?
A. American actor and musician B. British nursery rhyme
C. Rat catcher for Queen Victoria D. Men's grooming company

JTQ 2

He said the only one he knows is A. He is pretty sure te nursery rhyme is Jack Sprat, but is not sure if there is also a Jack Black.

Answer and value

B. British nursery rhyme
Value: $7000 jumped
Bank: $29100

Question 8 - Gosling in The House
While he was a member of "The All-New Mickey Mouse Club", Ryan Gosling lived with what other Mouseketeer and their mom?
A. Christina Aguilera B. Keri Russell
C. Justin Timberlake D. Britney Spears

ATA

A. 13% B. 14%
C. 60% D. 13%
Josh said it kind of make sense that he would live with another guy, but he will walk with the money

Answer and value

C. Justin Timberlake
Value: $not revealed
Bank: Walk: $14550

Commercial break

[TheConfessor]

Question 8 - Gosling in The House
While he was a member of "The All-New Mickey Mouse Club", Ryan Gosling lived with what other Mouseketeer and their mom?
A. Christina Aguilera B. Keri Russell
C. Justin Timberlake D. Britney Spears

ATA

A. 13% B. 14%
C. 60% D. 13%
Josh said it kind of make sense that he would live with another guy, but he will walk with the money

Answer and value

C. Justin Timberlake
Value: $not revealed
Bank: Walk: $14550

The misuse of a plural pronoun in this question implied that Ryan Gosling and

Spoiler

Justin Timberlake

have the same mother, which is needlessly confusing and probably not true.

[littlebeast13]

Josh said he promised his roommates that he would get a popcorn machine since microwave popcorn does not "cut it."

I just bought a popcorn machine and wasn't impressed. He should save his money....

lb13

[littlebeast13]

Question 8 - Gosling in The House
While he was a member of "The All-New Mickey Mouse Club", Ryan Gosling lived with what other Mouseketeer and their mom?
A. Christina Aguilera B. Keri Russell
C. Justin Timberlake D. Britney Spears

ATA

A. 13% B. 14%
C. 60% D. 13%
Josh said it kind of make sense that he would live with another guy, but he will walk with the money

Answer and value

C. Justin Timberlake
Value: $not revealed
Bank: Walk: $14550

The misuse of a plural pronoun in this question implied that Ryan Gosling and

Spoiler

Justin Timberlake

have the same mother, which is needlessly confusing and probably not true.

If there is one thing me and ghost (yay for bad grammar!) can agree on, it's the use of "their" in place of "his/her".....

lb13

[thejeopardyfan]

I lost on question 8.

[SportsFan68]

Question 8 - Gosling in The House
While he was a member of "The All-New Mickey Mouse Club", Ryan Gosling lived with what other Mouseketeer and their mom?
A. Christina Aguilera B. Keri Russell
C. Justin Timberlake D. Britney Spears

ATA

A. 13% B. 14%
C. 60% D. 13%
Josh said it kind of make sense that he would live with another guy, but he will walk with the money

Answer and value

C. Justin Timberlake
Value: $not revealed
Bank: Walk: $14550

ATA, and I'll go with the audience.

I agree with the other posters who said that "their" was confusing. It sounds like Gosling and Timberlake are stepbrothers.

[BassPlayingSugarplum]

The misuse of a plural pronoun in this question implied that Ryan Gosling and Justin Timberlake have the same mother, which is needlessly confusing and probably not true.

The writers this year have been the kings and the queens of the misused plural third-person pronoun, even when there's no advantage gained in using it. Most of the time they've been lucky and it hasn't changed the outcome. But there have been some whoppers and I think it may have sent me home, to be honest.

They need to vet the language of the questions as thoroughly as they check their facts. It really isn't hard.

[ghostjmf]

lb says:

If there is one thing me and ghost (yay for bad grammar!) can agree on, it's the use of "their" in place of "his/her".....

More snark from lb here. This time directed at me, of course. In a thread he thought I wouldn't be reading. Something he does a lot, I find out a lot.


I do not remember lb supporting me on my prounoun use, anyway. If he actually does, he should point it out.


lb, & anyone else who feels inclined to, please don't mention me in conversations in which I'm not involved. Anybody think he'll respect that?


So I'm reading this thread because my recording equipment or I fouled up, & I missed some shows.


At any rate, I use the collective neutral pronouns for individual humans whose gender doesn't need to be specified in the piece I'm writing because English has no neutral pronouns for talking about humans that aren't collective. That I know of, anyway. If English had neutral singular pronouns, other than "it", I'd use them. I'm sure not gonna use "it" for a person.


I also don't like using "it" for animals, but I have, sometimes.


If I was writing this question, I wouldn't say "their". I'd write "While he was a member of "The All-New Mickey Mouse Club", Ryan Gosling lived with what other Mouseketeer and that Mousketeer's mom?", for exactly the reason people in this thread are citing. You don't want to imply that the same woman who gave birth to one of the 4 choices also gave birth to Gosling.

When context makes any pronoun or anything else confusing, spell it out to lessen the confusion.

[vettech]

Question 8 - Gosling in The House
While he was a member of "The All-New Mickey Mouse Club", Ryan Gosling lived with what other Mouseketeer and their mom?
A. Christina Aguilera B. Keri Russell
C. Justin Timberlake D. Britney Spears

ATA

A. 13% B. 14%
C. 60% D. 13%
Josh said it kind of make sense that he would live with another guy, but he will walk with the money

Answer and value

C. Justin Timberlake
Value: $not revealed
Bank: Walk: $14550

The misuse of a plural pronoun in this question implied that Ryan Gosling and

Spoiler

Justin Timberlake

have the same mother, which is needlessly confusing and probably not true.

Yes, this threw me at first. It took a minute for the to figure out what they were actually trying to say. I'm not a fan of his/her and the like, but in this case it would've been preferable

[littlebeast13]

lb says:

If there is one thing me and ghost (yay for bad grammar!) can agree on, it's the use of "their" in place of "his/her".....

More snark from lb here. This time directed at me, of course. In a thread he thought I wouldn't be reading. Something he does a lot, I find out a lot.


I do not remember lb supporting me on my prounoun use, anyway. If he actually does, he should point it out.


lb, & anyone else who feels inclined to, please don't mention me in conversations in which I'm not involved. Anybody think he'll respect that?


So I'm reading this thread because my recording equipment or I fouled up, & I missed some shows.


At any rate, I use the collective neutral pronouns for individual humans whose gender doesn't need to be specified in the piece I'm writing because English has no neutral pronouns for talking about humans that aren't collective. That I know of, anyway. If English had neutral singular pronouns, other than "it", I'd use them. I'm sure not gonna use "it" for a person.


I also don't like using "it" for animals, but I have, sometimes.


If I was writing this question, I wouldn't say "their". I'd write "While he was a member of "The All-New Mickey Mouse Club", Ryan Gosling lived with what other Mouseketeer and that Mousketeer's mom?", for exactly the reason people in this thread are citing. You don't want to imply that the same woman who gave birth to one of the 4 choices also gave birth to Gosling.

When context makes any pronoun or anything else confusing, spell it out to lessen the confusion.

Damn... I can't even agree with you without you trying to bust me upside the head!!! You're a real piece of work, dear....

lb13

[ghostjmf]

Interesting that lb says he agrees with me on the use of neutral pronouns; he doesn't cite instances where he's backed me up on this while everyone else was beating on my head, nor where he's used them himself, at least not that I can recall.


And I'd also appreciate not being called "dear" by people to whom I am not dear. But you all knew that.


But anyway:


"Motive", a summer replacement series on ABC, which is a show they glommed from Canada, shot in Vancouver, surprised me by using "my kind of "they"" without drawing any attention to it.


It's a cop show; the gimmick is that the audience is shown who the killer is upfront, but as the show unfolds the audience & the cops discern their motive, which isn't shown up front. As well as, for those cops, the killer's identity, of course.


The cops in this show use "their" much the way I just used it in the last paragraph. Not because they think there is a group of killers, generally, but because they don't know the gender of the killer & don't want to prejudice themselves about it.


They may have brought this reasoning up in a scene, or my mind may be playing tricks on me about that.


I'll have to research whether cops in Canada in general are trained to say & think "they", not "he", until they have a suspect of known gender.

In "Criminal Minds" the "there's a serial killer on each corner" show set in the US (yes, I watch it; it was too much for Mandy Patinkin, who originally starred in it, but I guess it must not be too much for me), they refer to the suspect as "the Unsub", as in either "unknown suspect" or "unknown subject", I forget which.

But even though the bulk of serial killers are men, says the show & research I've seen/heard, they don't want to rule women out until the evidence does that.

[earendel]

Josh Levin
Somerville, MA

$29100 banked

Josh said he promised his roommates that he would get a popcorn machine since microwave popcorn does not "cut it."

Question 7 - Same Name
Having several entries for such a common name, Wikipedia lists all but which of the following as pages for "Jack Black"?
A. American actor and musician B. British nursery rhyme
C. Rat catcher for Queen Victoria D. Men's grooming company

JTQ 2

He said the only one he knows is A. He is pretty sure te nursery rhyme is Jack Sprat, but is not sure if there is also a Jack Black.

Answer and value

B. British nursery rhyme
Value: $7000 jumped
Bank: $29100

I'd JTQ also.

Question 8 - Gosling in The House
While he was a member of "The All-New Mickey Mouse Club", Ryan Gosling lived with what other Mouseketeer and their mom?
A. Christina Aguilera B. Keri Russell
C. Justin Timberlake D. Britney Spears

ATA

A. 13% B. 14%
C. 60% D. 13%
Josh said it kind of make sense that he would live with another guy, but he will walk with the money

Answer and value

C. Justin Timberlake
Value: $not revealed
Bank: Walk: $14550

Sound reasoning, and I'd have gone ahead with the answer.