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Ender's Game

#1 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:54 pm

If you've never read the book, do yourself a favor and don't before seeing the movie. If you read the book a long time ago, like I had, do yourself a favor and don't re-read it before you see the movie, like I did.

I suspect the movie was pretty good, but because I had just re-read the book, the discrepancies annoyed me and affected my enjoyment.
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#2 Post by tlynn78 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:21 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:If you've never read the book, do yourself a favor and don't before seeing the movie. If you read the book a long time ago, like I had, do yourself a favor and don't re-read it before you see the movie, like I did.

I suspect the movie was pretty good, but because I had just re-read the book, the discrepancies annoyed me and affected my enjoyment.

Good to know. I just mentioned to my son the other night I needed to re-read before seeing the movie; now I'll wait til after. Thanks.
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#3 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:02 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:If you've never read the book, do yourself a favor and don't before seeing the movie. If you read the book a long time ago, like I had, do yourself a favor and don't re-read it before you see the movie, like I did.

I suspect the movie was pretty good, but because I had just re-read the book, the discrepancies annoyed me and affected my enjoyment.

Good to know. I just mentioned to my son the other night I needed to re-read before seeing the movie; now I'll wait til after. Thanks.
I didn't expect Ender to be 6 years old, but he was entirely too old.

Ender actually calls himself Andrew at one point.

When he is being summoned over the P.A. at school, they call him Andrew Ender Wiggin. They treated "Ender" like it was his middle name.

These are minor issues. There are far more substantive issues.
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#4 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:07 pm

Besides casting actors who were much older than the characters (because younger characters couldn't carry the role) they had the usual problems with trying to cram a book's worth of detail into a couple of hours. So months of activity seem squeezed into a week or two and sub-plots are only suggested at, but I thought they did okay, considering. The epilogue seemed pretty artificial, though.

Incidentally, Card's latest series is a prequel set in the First Formic War; I just finished the second of this series, Earth Afire. Parts are decent--we get to learn Mazer Rackham's story--but with a couple of the principal characters it's just whine, whine, whine, which got on my nerves.

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#5 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:09 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:Besides casting actors who were much older than the characters (because younger characters couldn't carry the role) they had the usual problems with trying to cram a book's worth of detail into a couple of hours. So months of activity seem squeezed into a week or two and sub-plots are only suggested at, but I thought they did okay, considering. The epilogue seemed pretty artificial, though.

Incidentally, Card's latest series is a prequel set in the First Formic War; I just finished the second of this series, Earth Afire. Parts are decent--we get to learn Mazer Rackham's story--but with a couple of the principal characters it's just whine, whine, whine, which got on my nerves.
I am sure I would have enjoyed the movie much more if I hadn't just re-read it last week.
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#6 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:15 pm

Has anyone here seen the movie without ever reading the book (or the short story that preceded the book)? I'm curious how the movie stands on its own.

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#7 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:04 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:Has anyone here seen the movie without ever reading the book (or the short story that preceded the book)? I'm curious how the movie stands on its own.
I haven't read the book, but I wasn't very impressed with the movie either from a technical or a dramatic standpoint. The effects were rather underwhelming for a big budget film, and the story just seemed routine. Plus, I kept comparing it mentally to Starship Troopers, which was a whole heck of a lot more fun to watch.
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#8 Post by andrewjackson » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:23 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:If you've never read the book, do yourself a favor and don't before seeing the movie. If you read the book a long time ago, like I had, do yourself a favor and don't re-read it before you see the movie, like I did.

I suspect the movie was pretty good, but because I had just re-read the book, the discrepancies annoyed me and affected my enjoyment.

Good to know. I just mentioned to my son the other night I needed to re-read before seeing the movie; now I'll wait til after. Thanks.
I didn't expect Ender to be 6 years old, but he was entirely too old.

Ender actually calls himself Andrew at one point.

When he is being summoned over the P.A. at school, they call him Andrew Ender Wiggin. They treated "Ender" like it was his middle name.

These are minor issues. There are far more substantive issues.
The name thing bugged the hell out of me. I understand changes for movies but I just don't understand why they had to change this. His name is Andrew Wiggin. Ender is a nickname based on his sister's pronunciation of Andrew.

The ending was also odd based on the book ending.

I still enjoyed the movie.
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