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Lost thread (spoilers)

#1 Post by MarleysGh0st » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:01 pm

Somebody has to start it...
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Quite bizarre flash-forwards of Sayid, particularly when they reveal who he's working for.

But I'm particularly confused about Faraday's experiment. If the island is in a time warp so that it's thirtysomething minutes behind the rest of the planet, how can the radio signals be transmitted and received without a similar delay?

And while we're waiting to learn who the rest of the Oceanic Six are, it'd be such a pleasant surprise if one of them turned out to be a sock!

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#2 Post by tanstaafl2 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:41 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:Somebody has to start it...
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Quite bizarre flash-forwards of Sayid, particularly when they reveal who he's working for.

But I'm particularly confused about Faraday's experiment. If the island is in a time warp so that it's thirtysomething minutes behind the rest of the planet, how can the radio signals be transmitted and received without a similar delay?

And while we're waiting to learn who the rest of the Oceanic Six are, it'd be such a pleasant surprise if one of them turned out to be a sock!
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The sock ain't gonna happen. It is TV after all.

Truly unexpected to me to see Sayid revert to his old ways so whatever the big dramatic conclusion is it will have to be pretty, well, big and dramatic!

Jack wants to go back. Kate wants to stay even though she presumably is still a wanted criminal but has national notoriety at the same time. And just who is her sugar daddy anyway (or what ever her keeper proves to be.)? And who exactly does Hurley have to go help? And now Sayid is killing everybody on Ben's list? And just what is the list all about anyway?

Not to mention the Farraday experiment and the importance of the helicopter staying on the exact bearing, rather like Michael and Walt's boat. And just where is Michael these days anyway? I suspect we will see him again soon.

A whole lot of new questions. Not a lot of answers so far.

So we have 4 of the Oceanic 6, presuming that includes Kate. That leaves Sawyer, Sun and Jin, who for the moment have dropped off the radar, and I suppose possibly Locke. I suppose you can throw Claire in there as well. And if Sayid has become an assassin working for Ben maybe he is the one who ends up in the coffin that no one wanted to go see.

I think from previous comments Sun and Jin are the most likely given they have an upcoming episode focusing on them.

And that is about the only question I think I have an answer to so far.

And I still would like to know why nobody from Dharma ever came to check up on there little camp. After all they still seemed to be parachuting food into them at one point. Unless that has been hung up in the time warp for awhile as well...

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#3 Post by T_Bone0806 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:01 pm

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Some interesting tidbits:

The name on Ben's passport is Dean Moriarty, a character in Jack Kerouac's "On the Road". Kerouac also wrote "The Dharma Bums". Tee Hee.

The stash of foreign currency in Ben's drawer includes some 20 pound notes. I read on another bored that the ones shown were in circulation from 1991-2001. Biggest kicker? The face on those notes is that of Michael FARADAY, who was involved with electromagnetism as we discussed before when talking about the new character of Daniel Faraday.
It seems that either folks are going off the deep end seeing deep meaning in every little thing, or the creators of this show are freakin' geniuses..because it sure seems like even the most minute details are thought out so carefully, with a million seemingly insignificant things all referencing something else. It reminds me of the whole "Paul is Dead" hoax, where every little thing on Beatles album covers and in the songs were "clues". The obvious thing here is that ol' Ben apparently has no problem getting on and off the island.

Was the bracelet on Sayid's German galpal the same type as the one he took off Naomi?

Is Ben undercover as a kindly vet now, or are those doggies part of some new suspect Ben shenanigans?

Why did Sayid's "golfing buddy" freak out as soon as he found out Sayid was a member of the Oceanic Six? Some think that flash forward actually occurs AFTER the one we saw at the end, tying it in with Sayid's comment to Ben that they knew who he was now. I don't think it's neccessarily the case. If that guy did something wrong in connectionto the Oceanic Six, he would know that meeting one of them would not be a good thing. Very strange at any rate.

The pilot is told to make sure he follows the exact same heading when flying back to the freighter. This would seem to have some relation to the exacting instructions Ben gave Michael to get off the island a couple seasons ago. Some kinda "portal" to and from the island that is the only way on/off? Is it otherwise hidden from view to the outside world?

This show will drive me insane before it's over.

Funniest line of the night: Hurley-"Oh great, they sent us another Sawyer".
I read that they're going to film 5 more episodes post strike, and combine it with the already filmed Episode 8. The 7th episode will air March 13th, then there will be a 6-week hiatus, followed by the remaining 6. The reason given was that the end of Episode 7 was a more natural break point than Episode 8. I think it said that when it comes back it will show the 8th episode at 9 PM ET, then move to 10 PM ET for the 9th-13th. The creators said that the plot elements originally planned for the last 8 episodes pre-strike will be crammed into the 5 they'll be filming. Everything they originally planned to do for this season plotwise will still be done, just at a quicker pace.

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#4 Post by tanstaafl2 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:41 pm

T_Bone0806 wrote: I read that they're going to film 5 more episodes post strike, and combine it with the already filmed Episode 8. The 7th episode will air March 13th, then there will be a 6-week hiatus, followed by the remaining 6. The reason given was that the end of Episode 7 was a more natural break point than Episode 8. I think it said that when it comes back it will show the 8th episode at 9 PM ET, then move to 10 PM ET for the 9th-13th. The creators said that the plot elements originally planned for the last 8 episodes pre-strike will be crammed into the 5 they'll be filming. Everything they originally planned to do for this season plotwise will still be done, just at a quicker pace.
The plan before the strike was to do 48 more episodes, 16 per season. Since they will only get to 13 this season the new plan is supposedly to divide the remaining 35 over the next two seasons and still have a total of 48.

But since they are going to cram what was supposed to be 8 episodes into 5 this season they will just have 3 extra to play around with over the next two seasons.

http://averad-blog.com/tv/lost-season-4 ... 3-episodes

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#5 Post by T_Bone0806 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:52 pm

But since they are going to cram what was supposed to be 8 episodes into 5 this season they will just have 3 extra to play around with over the next two seasons.


Ahh..perhaps this will open up a spot for a "very special episode" in which Jack and Juliet debate "going all the way" after the Senior Prom.

Or maybe the star-studded spectacle, "Hurley on Ice!"
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#6 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:48 am

tanstaafl2 wrote: The plan before the strike was to do 48 more episodes, 16 per season. Since they will only get to 13 this season the new plan is supposedly to divide the remaining 35 over the next two seasons and still have a total of 48.

But since they are going to cram what was supposed to be 8 episodes into 5 this season they will just have 3 extra to play around with over the next two seasons.
The Lost writers seem to me to be very disciplined and to have thought all this out a long time ago.

There are undoubtedly certain plot aspects which have to be brought out in a certain order and others about which they have more flexibility.

Heck, if they need to, they can even flashback next season to reveal things that happened during the "lost" three episodes.

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#7 Post by tanstaafl2 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:10 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
tanstaafl2 wrote: The plan before the strike was to do 48 more episodes, 16 per season. Since they will only get to 13 this season the new plan is supposedly to divide the remaining 35 over the next two seasons and still have a total of 48.

But since they are going to cram what was supposed to be 8 episodes into 5 this season they will just have 3 extra to play around with over the next two seasons.
The Lost writers seem to me to be very disciplined and to have thought all this out a long time ago.

There are undoubtedly certain plot aspects which have to be brought out in a certain order and others about which they have more flexibility.

Heck, if they need to, they can even flashback next season to reveal things that happened during the "lost" three episodes.
They may be disciplined now and I suspect once they got a firm end date they were able to story board the show to the end. And so knowing what they need to do to get where they want to be they probably can mix and match plot lines to fit the altered schedule as you suggest.

But there was awhile there when it looked like they were making it up as they went along. The whole concept of the Ben character becoming a regular and essentially (or so it would appear) dominating the plot to the conclusion was basically created on the fly in season 2 and 3. He was just supposed to be a 3 episode guest star originally.

I am pretty sure they had no firm idea where this was going when it started.
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