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Flawed Q on Friday's 1v100

#1 Post by mntetn » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:21 am

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They asked "Who is the babydaddy of Anna Nicole Smith's daughter Dannielynn?"
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None of the given answers were correct. Dannielynn is too young to have a babydaddy.

Larry Birkhead is Dannielynn's daddy. He is Anna Nicole's babydaddy.

Anna Nicole is, or was, Larry's babymama.

But the contestant gave the answer they wanted, so there was no harm, no foul.

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#2 Post by MarleysGh0st » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:25 am

I was going to watch the show until they said it was a special Pop Culture episode. Then I couldn't hit the "Off" button on the remote fast enough.

Is "babydaddy" some new pop culture slang we should know?

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#3 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:38 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:Is "babydaddy" some new pop culture slang we should know?
It's a common word in hip-hop culture as well as in sports. (I'm talking to you, Shawn Kemp!)

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Re: Flawed Q on Friday's 1v100

#4 Post by kayrharris » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:47 am

mntetn wrote:
Spoiler
They asked "Who is the babydaddy of Anna Nicole Smith's daughter Dannielynn?"
Spoiler
None of the given answers were correct. Dannielynn is too young to have a babydaddy.

Larry Birkhead is Dannielynn's daddy. He is Anna Nicole's babydaddy.

Anna Nicole is, or was, Larry's babymama.

But the contestant gave the answer they wanted, so there was no harm, no foul.
Now my head hurts. I re-read this several times &
I'm still confused. Must be my age. I watched the
show but missed seeing this question. The questions
weren't all that hard for "pop culture",
which normally is a major
downfall for me.
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#5 Post by Jeemie » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:01 am

It is correct that this question was flawed (I hate it when my post gets quoted before I spot the inevitable typos).

At least according to this website:

babydaddy:

The father of a woman's child, used to denote that the father is neither the mother's husband or boyfriend, but just the sperm donor.

"Sheeeeeeeeet Uniqua, why you ain't callin' yo' babydaddy fo' Father's Day?" -Shamiqua
"Cuz I gots seven different babydaddies and I don't got enuff food stamps to call dem all AND buy scratch-off lottery tickets."

As you can tell from the context of the sentence given, "babydaddy" is used in relationship to the MOTHER, not daughter.
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#6 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:10 am

Jeemie wrote:It is correct that this question was flaed.

At least according to this website:

babydaddy:

The father of a woman's child, used to denote that the father is neither the mother's husband or boyfriend, but just the sperm donor.

"Sheeeeeeeeet Uniqua, why you ain't callin' yo' babydaddy fo' Father's Day?" -Shamiqua
"Cuz I gots seven different babydaddies and I don't got enuff food stamps to call dem all AND buy scratch-off lottery tickets."

As you can tell from the context of the sentence given, "babydaddy" is used in relationship to the MOTHER, not daughter.
These terms seem to have originated in the black community hence the stereotyping in the the urban dictionary, but as the question seem to imply the terms are becoming more universal to this kind of conduct.
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The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#7 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:49 am

The Elvis question was also flawed, since he would've actually been 73 by the time the show actually aired.

That's why GOOD question writers always include a date when writing a question about the age of someone.
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#8 Post by 15QuestionsAway » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:31 pm

Nitpickery.

1. The question obviously was asking who Dannielynn's father was. The Mob and the One had no trouble figuring that out.

2. Elvis's age was correct on the taping date (mid-September 2007). The producers didn't know when 1 vs 100 was going to air.

Now get back to work.

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#9 Post by MarleysGh0st » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:37 pm

15QuestionsAway wrote:Nitpickery.

1. The question obviously was asking who Dannielynn's father was. The Mob and the One had no trouble figuring that out.
But if the question writers are trying so hard to make their questions sound hip (hop) that they actually make the questions wrong, we will justifiably drag them over the coals for it.

I'm sure they were capable of using the word "father," after all. :twisted:

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#10 Post by tanstaafl2 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:16 pm

15QuestionsAway wrote:Nitpickery.

2. Elvis's age was correct on the taping date (mid-September 2007). The producers didn't know when 1 vs 100 was going to air.

Now get back to work.
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I think that is the point. Because the writers did not know when it was going to air that should have known to qualify the question with a date. Nit successfully pre-empted!
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#11 Post by 15QuestionsAway » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:00 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:
15QuestionsAway wrote:Nitpickery.

1. The question obviously was asking who Dannielynn's father was. The Mob and the One had no trouble figuring that out.
But if the question writers are trying so hard to make their questions sound hip (hop) that they actually make the questions wrong, we will justifiably drag them over the coals for it.

I'm sure they were capable of using the word "father," after all. :twisted:
I'm not a fan of the word "babydaddy" either. So if there's a grammar lesson in there somewhere for some question writers, then drag away. I hereby withdraw my call of nitpickery!

I'm just saying that the contestant and most of the mob (including me!) didn't have the right combination of "street", grammatical awareness and time to make a distinction. The question wasn't misstated enough to direct someone to the incorrect answer.

Next week's the final show in the run and is quite good. The producers really edited the shows down to fit in six episodes. But they did a good job - nothing significant was missed.

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#12 Post by MarleysGh0st » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:05 pm

15QuestionsAway wrote: I'm just saying that the contestant and most of the mob (including me!) didn't have the right combination of "street", grammatical awareness and time to make a distinction. The question wasn't misstated enough to direct someone to the incorrect answer.
I wouldn't have know the distinction, either. :oops:

As it was, the question writers ended up like parents of teenagers who try too hard to look cool, thereby demonstrating how out of it they really are. :roll:

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#13 Post by TheConfessor » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:44 am

15QuestionsAway wrote:I'm just saying that the contestant and most of the mob (including me!) didn't have the right combination of "street", grammatical awareness and time to make a distinction. The question wasn't misstated enough to direct someone to the incorrect answer.
15QA, are you considered a "regular mob member?" I've caught only bits and pieces of recent shows, but I noticed some ratty looking muppet as a mob member and just Googled to see what that was all about. Turns out it was Oscar the Grouch. I didn't recognize him without his garbage can. How does the Oscar character compete on the show, logistically? Is there some puppet operator who simultaneously has one hand inside Oscar and the other hand on the game keyboard? Or is it just a shameless cross-promotion and Oscar isn't really playing the game, or what?

While researching, I found this interview with someone named Richard Rubin, who says he is a regular in the mob and named four other regulars, including the Playboy triplets and Oscar, but apparently not you.
http://gameshows.about.com/od/interview ... _rubin.htm

I'd enjoy being a mob regular, but I think the show would be inherently better if the "1" were selected from the most worthy mob members.

I haven't been keeping track. What are your statistics on the mob questions? Have you won any money?

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#14 Post by takinover » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:32 am

Sounds like you missed the episode when they had the chimp. The chimp went 1 for 2, better than one other mobster.

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#15 Post by 15QuestionsAway » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:38 am

TheConfessor wrote:15QA, are you considered a "regular mob member?" I've caught only bits and pieces of recent shows, but I noticed some ratty looking muppet as a mob member and just Googled to see what that was all about. Turns out it was Oscar the Grouch. I didn't recognize him without his garbage can. How does the Oscar character compete on the show, logistically? Is there some puppet operator who simultaneously has one hand inside Oscar and the other hand on the game keyboard? Or is it just a shameless cross-promotion and Oscar isn't really playing the game, or what?

While researching, I found this interview with someone named Richard Rubin, who says he is a regular in the mob and named four other regulars, including the Playboy triplets and Oscar, but apparently not you.
http://gameshows.about.com/od/interview ... _rubin.htm

I'd enjoy being a mob regular, but I think the show would be inherently better if the "1" were selected from the most worthy mob members.

I haven't been keeping track. What are your statistics on the mob questions? Have you won any money?
I auditioned for the show again and was chosen as a Mob member. I had been in the Mob once before during the first series - in the last man standing game that had Brad Rutter, Ken Jennings and Nancy Christy.

If you saw the first episode of this series, you would have seen an all-male and an all-female mob.

From that group, some of us were selected to be part of the "PermaMob" for the remaining shows. It was almost like another audition process - our selection was based on how we performed on the first show. A few of the PermaMob were preselected celebrities, including Oscar the Grouch. Richard Rubin is in that group.

The person operating Oscar was the same person who does it on Sesame Street. He played the game for real - in fact, he had some problems early on with his keypad. I've never seen a Muppet operated in real life - it was quite interesting how it was done.

As far as I remember, Oscar's the only celebrity that wins any money. As for me, I was rolling a bagel until last Friday's show. I finally picked up about $500. There were some good Mob wins early, but of course one question along the way in each stack took me down.

There's one more show left in the current series. Two excellent contestants remain. Clint (the carryover) is something, and the next woman is a bit of a dark horse.

I'm up for doing it again if it's brought back. I had a lot of fun, but it was three very long days of taping. The producers know where to find me and vice versa.

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#16 Post by 15QuestionsAway » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:56 am

takinover wrote:Sounds like you missed the episode when they had the chimp. The chimp went 1 for 2, better than one other mobster.
I never told the story of the chimp and the other mobster.

I talked to the mobster (#11) who answered the first question wrong during the break after the show. It turns out he committed 1 vs 100 hara-kiri - intentionally answering the first question wrong.

You see, the 1 vs 100 set is a scary place for chimpanzees. Even trained ones. So Jake the chimp reacted the way a nervous chimp does and took a huge dump in his diaper.

And since chimps don't have the same diet and digestive systems that humans do, well, let's say that Jake was especially fragrant. Jake was mobster #12, so mobster #11 caught the full onslaught of Jake's aroma. After the first question, mobster #11 was allowed to leave.

I believe the person who took spot #11 in the dark was one of Jake's trainers. Presumably he was more used to the smell of Jake's output.

Fortunately I was up in the rarefied air of spot #78, so I didn't get a whiff of Jake.

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#17 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:17 am

TheConfessor wrote: I'd enjoy being a mob regular, but I think the show would be inherently better if the "1" were selected from the most worthy mob members.
Rec!

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#18 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:18 am

15QuestionsAway wrote: You see, the 1 vs 100 set is a scary place for chimpanzees. Even trained ones. So Jake the chimp reacted the way a nervous chimp does and took a huge dump in his diaper.
I thought the ASPCA supervised TV shows using animals to protect them from harm--psychological as well as physical!

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#19 Post by tanstaafl2 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:25 am

15QuestionsAway wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:15QA, are you considered a "regular mob member?" I've caught only bits and pieces of recent shows, but I noticed some ratty looking muppet as a mob member and just Googled to see what that was all about. Turns out it was Oscar the Grouch. I didn't recognize him without his garbage can. How does the Oscar character compete on the show, logistically? Is there some puppet operator who simultaneously has one hand inside Oscar and the other hand on the game keyboard? Or is it just a shameless cross-promotion and Oscar isn't really playing the game, or what?

While researching, I found this interview with someone named Richard Rubin, who says he is a regular in the mob and named four other regulars, including the Playboy triplets and Oscar, but apparently not you.
http://gameshows.about.com/od/interview ... _rubin.htm

I'd enjoy being a mob regular, but I think the show would be inherently better if the "1" were selected from the most worthy mob members.

I haven't been keeping track. What are your statistics on the mob questions? Have you won any money?
I auditioned for the show again and was chosen as a Mob member. I had been in the Mob once before during the first series - in the last man standing game that had Brad Rutter, Ken Jennings and Nancy Christy.

If you saw the first episode of this series, you would have seen an all-male and an all-female mob.

From that group, some of us were selected to be part of the "PermaMob" for the remaining shows. It was almost like another audition process - our selection was based on how we performed on the first show. A few of the PermaMob were preselected celebrities, including Oscar the Grouch. Richard Rubin is in that group.

The person operating Oscar was the same person who does it on Sesame Street. He played the game for real - in fact, he had some problems early on with his keypad. I've never seen a Muppet operated in real life - it was quite interesting how it was done.

As far as I remember, Oscar's the only celebrity that wins any money. As for me, I was rolling a bagel until last Friday's show. I finally picked up about $500. There were some good Mob wins early, but of course one question along the way in each stack took me down.

There's one more show left in the current series. Two excellent contestants remain. Clint (the carryover) is something, and the next woman is a bit of a dark horse.

I'm up for doing it again if it's brought back. I had a lot of fun, but it was three very long days of taping. The producers know where to find me and vice versa.
Now that is the kind of inside anecdotal info, on both Oscar and Jake, that makes this bored special! I am quite serious about that. You don't get that kind of insight just anywhere!

I remember that Oscar had some initial trouble hitting the buttons especially given that the mob has limited time to respond. Richard Rubin was one of the geeks from Beauty and the Geek, first season I think. He appears to have done better than the Cleavage Cubed, the comedian Sommore, whom I have never heard of, and the incredibly annoying "Ross the Intern". Once Oscar got the key pad figured out he appeared to be doing better but that has to be a real handicap trying to operate the muppet and the key pad.

And could they show the chests of the triplets more often? Jeez, I like cleavage as much as the next person but it has become a bit much even for me. Only reason they don't is because they are usually gone by the first 2 or 3 questions.

Either get 'em nekkid or get 'em off!

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