Transcript 02/11/10 - Jane Dare

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Jane Dare
Henderson, CO
Retired flight attendant

Jane was a flight attendant in the '60s through the '90s. It was a different job back in the '60s, wilder, crazy and more glamourous. Once, when a 747 had a piano in the back (because they weren't cramming in seat, back then), Kris Kristofferson and Rita Coolidge were sitting in coach and came back to do an impromptu concert.

Question Topics:
* Seeing Double
* The Sixties
* On the Bench
* Birds
* Cleveland Rocks
* School Ties
* Tourist Attractions
* Entertainment News
* Just a Hobby
* Advertising
* Nursery Rhymes
* Astronomy
* Finance
* Brand Names
* TV Stars


$500 * TV Stars
Angela Lansbury and Dennis Franz both appear on an Entertainment Weekly list of "25 Terrific TV" what?

A: Surgeons B: Detectives
C: Teachers D: Senior Citizen Pinups

Answer

B: Detectives ( 7 )

$1,000 * Brand Names
Which of these personal hygiene brands is featured on the Web site http://www.toothpaste.com?

A: Crest B: Gillette
C: Ivory D: Noxema

Answer

A: Crest ( 9 )

$2,000 * Finance
In finance, the "I" in the informal job title "I-banker" stands for what?

A: Investment B: Intelligence
C: Interest D: Information

With 6 seconds left, Jane decides to Ask The Audience.

ATA: A: 92% B: 1% C: 3% D: 4%

Answer

A: Investment ( 4 )

-- Commercial Break --

You're In the Hot Seat Home Game

Today's Winning Answer

A: The Mamas & The Papas

Sneak Peak at One of the Next Episode's Questions

$12,500
Which of these states has never hosted a Summer Olympics?

A: Georgia B: Texas
C: Missouri D: California

Besides being a retired flight attendant, Jane is also a retired college professor, who taught English.

$3,000 * Astronomy
In 2009, astronomers discovered a "supersized" ring around what planet, much further away than its other known rings?

A: Mercury B: Venus
C: Mars D: Saturn

Answer

D: Saturn ( 5 )

$5,000 * Nursery Rhymes
Reciting the nursery rhyme "This Little Piggy" involves saying "This Little Piggy" how many times, once per wiggled toe?

A: 3 B: 4
C: 5 D: 6

Jane struggles to come up with an answer as Meredith warns her that time is running out, before saying "Three, final."

Answer

C: 5 ( 0 )

Jane: Oh! I'm thinking how many times per wiggled--

Jane leaves with $0.

-- The Horn --

[chad1m]

Jane struggles to come up with an answer as Meredith warns her that time is running out, before saying "Three, final."

For the record, she said "three", her time ran out, she took a beat/pause and then she said "final." It wasn't a frantic utterance of the two words quickly. I was kind of disappointed that this was ruled as wrong instead of a time expired, but then I saw that the official rules say:

If a Contestant is in the process of giving an answer when time expires and the Buzzer sounds, the Contestant may finish his/her answer. He/She must continue to say "Final Answer" immediately following the answer choice...All decisions regarding game clock time and question answers shall be at the discretion of Producer.

I personally wouldn't have ruled that verbalization of "final" as immediate, but I'm not the producer and it's not my discretion. Either way, it sucks for her.

[MarleysGh0st]

Jane struggles to come up with an answer as Meredith warns her that time is running out, before saying "Three, final."

For the record, she said "three", her time ran out, she took a beat/pause and then she said "final." It wasn't a frantic utterance of the two words quickly. I was kind of disappointed that this was ruled as wrong instead of a time expired, but then I saw that the official rules say:

If a Contestant is in the process of giving an answer when time expires and the Buzzer sounds, the Contestant may finish his/her answer. He/She must continue to say "Final Answer" immediately following the answer choice...All decisions regarding game clock time and question answers shall be at the discretion of Producer.

I personally wouldn't have ruled that verbalization of "final" as immediate, but I'm not the producer and it's not my discretion. Either way, it sucks for her.

Given that the result was the same, I don't think TPTB saw any point in being sticklers about that rule, in this case.

[Jeemie]

OK, I'm going to cut her some slack- this was wicked for $5,000, because the "once per wiggled toe" is both superfluous and confusing (actually, if you think about it, the question was simply asking "how many toes do (most) humans have on one foot?)

Still think they aren't doing things with the questions to deliberately derail contestants, Chad?

[Bob78164]

Jane struggles to come up with an answer as Meredith warns her that time is running out, before saying "Three, final."

For the record, she said "three", her time ran out, she took a beat/pause and then she said "final." It wasn't a frantic utterance of the two words quickly. I was kind of disappointed that this was ruled as wrong instead of a time expired, but then I saw that the official rules say:

If a Contestant is in the process of giving an answer when time expires and the Buzzer sounds, the Contestant may finish his/her answer. He/She must continue to say "Final Answer" immediately following the answer choice...All decisions regarding game clock time and question answers shall be at the discretion of Producer.

I personally wouldn't have ruled that verbalization of "final" as immediate, but I'm not the producer and it's not my discretion. Either way, it sucks for her.

Given that the result was the same, I don't think TPTB saw any point in being sticklers about that rule, in this case.

The result wasn't the same. If the ruling had been that time had expired, she'd have left with $3000. --Bob

[Jeemie]

For the record, she said "three", her time ran out, she took a beat/pause and then she said "final." It wasn't a frantic utterance of the two words quickly. I was kind of disappointed that this was ruled as wrong instead of a time expired, but then I saw that the official rules say:

I personally wouldn't have ruled that verbalization of "final" as immediate, but I'm not the producer and it's not my discretion. Either way, it sucks for her.

Given that the result was the same, I don't think TPTB saw any point in being sticklers about that rule, in this case.

The result wasn't the same. If the ruling had been that time had expired, she'd have left with $3000. --Bob

Right.

They must REALLY be strapped for cash!!!!

[MarleysGh0st]

For the record, she said "three", her time ran out, she took a beat/pause and then she said "final." It wasn't a frantic utterance of the two words quickly. I was kind of disappointed that this was ruled as wrong instead of a time expired, but then I saw that the official rules say:

I personally wouldn't have ruled that verbalization of "final" as immediate, but I'm not the producer and it's not my discretion. Either way, it sucks for her.

Given that the result was the same, I don't think TPTB saw any point in being sticklers about that rule, in this case.

The result wasn't the same. If the ruling had been that time had expired, she'd have left with $3000. --Bob

D'oh! You're right!

P.S. The was shock at this very odd situation of being lenient with the rules costing Jane $3,000, not shock at Bob being right.

[Snaxx]

TDC ®

[chad1m]

Still think these are pretty good contestants, Chad?

Still think they aren't doing things with the questions to deliberately derail contestants, Chad?

Erm... Go through my posts. I've never said, not to mention thought, either one of those things. The contestants this week have been pretty lame.

[Brit Canuck]

Isn't the executive producer partly responsible for choosing which contestants who passed the auditions make it to the hot seat - oops, sorry, the cold seat?

(reads credits from an episode that airs the credits in their entirety)

Hmm... Interesting...

[Bob Juch]

Isn't the executive producer partly responsible for choosing which contestants who passed the auditions make it to the hot seat - oops, sorry, the cold seat?

(reads credits from an episode that airs the credits in their entirety)

Hmm... Interesting...

No, the executive producer made the decisions to change the format of the show and to make the questions harder, but he doesn't make specific casting decisions. (Except to tell them, "Never put a guy like Bob Juch on the show again!")

[Brit Canuck]

Isn't the executive producer partly responsible for choosing which contestants who passed the auditions make it to the hot seat - oops, sorry, the cold seat?

(reads credits from an episode that airs the credits in their entirety)

Hmm... Interesting...

No, the executive producer made the decisions to change the format of the show and to make the questions harder...

Which means Meredith's still partly to blame, anyway. (And that probably includes TDC.)

But thanks for clarifying that.

[snomaim]

There but for the grace of God go I. I nearly missed a $200 nursery rhyme question during my appearance a few years back but I pause, took my time and realized the correct answer was "This Little Piggy." If the clock had been in play, I might have become a llama.

[doitneatly]

Jane struggles to come up with an answer as Meredith warns her that time is running out, before saying "Three, final."

For the record, she said "three", her time ran out, she took a beat/pause and then she said "final." It wasn't a frantic utterance of the two words quickly. I was kind of disappointed that this was ruled as wrong instead of a time expired, but then I saw that the official rules say:

If a Contestant is in the process of giving an answer when time expires and the Buzzer sounds, the Contestant may finish his/her answer. He/She must continue to say "Final Answer" immediately following the answer choice...All decisions regarding game clock time and question answers shall be at the discretion of Producer.

I personally wouldn't have ruled that verbalization of "final" as immediate, but I'm not the producer and it's not my discretion. Either way, it sucks for her.

I concur with the opinion that poor Jane was stiffed out of $3,000.

When we had the preparatory "rules refresher" in the green room, this rule was summarized as "you're okay as long as you START your answer before the clock runs out and you say "final" in the same breath."

Obviously the standard legalese is present in the fine print such they can defend their actions, but I'd agree this was a bit slimy on the part of the producers...

[NellyLunatic1980]

The nursery rhyme curse strikes again.

Nihil obstat®

[frogman042]

Jane struggles to come up with an answer as Meredith warns her that time is running out, before saying "Three, final."

For the record, she said "three", her time ran out, she took a beat/pause and then she said "final." It wasn't a frantic utterance of the two words quickly. I was kind of disappointed that this was ruled as wrong instead of a time expired, but then I saw that the official rules say:

If a Contestant is in the process of giving an answer when time expires and the Buzzer sounds, the Contestant may finish his/her answer. He/She must continue to say "Final Answer" immediately following the answer choice...All decisions regarding game clock time and question answers shall be at the discretion of Producer.

I personally wouldn't have ruled that verbalization of "final" as immediate, but I'm not the producer and it's not my discretion. Either way, it sucks for her.

I concur with the opinion that poor Jane was stiffed out of $3,000.

When we had the preparatory "rules refresher" in the green room, this rule was summarized as "you're okay as long as you START your answer before the clock runs out and you say "final" in the same breath."

Obviously the standard legalese is present in the fine print such they can defend their actions, but I'd agree this was a bit slimy on the part of the producers...

I think this is a tough call. For example, if she said 5 beat/pause final and TPTB said she was to slow on the final or paused - and she had to leave with 3K - do you think that would have been the fair result - or do you think in that case she should continue up the stack? If you think she should have continued, then, ISTM, that we need to accept the zero dollar decision.

[Jeemie]

Does anyone else but me think this was a wickedly worded question for $5K/15 seconds to think, with the superfluous and confusing "once per wiggled toe" phrase added at the end?

Who the hell writes these questions? I'm a pretty wordy person, and sometimes make very weird sentence constructions, but even I wouldn't have come up with something like that!

[tanstaafl2]

Jane Dare
Henderson, CO
Retired flight attendant

Jane was a flight attendant in the '60s through the '90s. It was a different job back in the '60s, wilder, crazy and more glamourous. Once, when a 747 had a piano in the back (because they weren't cramming in seat, back then), Kris Kristofferson and Rita Coolidge were sitting in coach and came back to do an impromptu concert.

Seems a bit odd. First of all they were flying coach??? Must have been early in their careers! And if they were in coach already why would they have to come "back" to the piano? Last I checked the steerage class is already in the back.

And why the heck would the piano be back there anyway? Ought to be up in the "penthouse"! That's where the bar usually was anyway.

[Bob Juch]

Jane Dare
Henderson, CO
Retired flight attendant

Jane was a flight attendant in the '60s through the '90s. It was a different job back in the '60s, wilder, crazy and more glamourous. Once, when a 747 had a piano in the back (because they weren't cramming in seat, back then), Kris Kristofferson and Rita Coolidge were sitting in coach and came back to do an impromptu concert.

Seems a bit odd. First of all they were flying coach??? Must have been early in their careers! And if they were in coach already why would they have to come "back" to the piano? Last I checked the steerage class is already in the back.

And why the heck would the piano be back there anyway? Ought to be up in the "penthouse"! That's where the bar usually was anyway.

That smells a bit. The first 747 went into service in 1970 and Kristofferson was a big deal by then.

[kayrharris]

Jane Dare
Henderson, CO
Retired flight attendant

Jane was a flight attendant in the '60s through the '90s. It was a different job back in the '60s, wilder, crazy and more glamourous. Once, when a 747 had a piano in the back (because they weren't cramming in seat, back then), Kris Kristofferson and Rita Coolidge were sitting in coach and came back to do an impromptu concert.

Seems a bit odd. First of all they were flying coach??? Must have been early in their careers! And if they were in coach already why would they have to come "back" to the piano? Last I checked the steerage class is already in the back.

And why the heck would the piano be back there anyway? Ought to be up in the "penthouse"! That's where the bar usually was anyway.

Come on, you don't think the producers would "enhance" her celebrity story now do you???

kay

[megaaddict]

Does anyone else but me think this was a wickedly worded question for $5K/15 seconds to think, with the superfluous and confusing "once per wiggled toe" phrase added at the end?

Who the hell writes these questions? I'm a pretty wordy person, and sometimes make very weird sentence constructions, but even I wouldn't have come up with something like that!

I totally agree about the wording. Way too convoluted. Unfortunately, the convolution may have occurred as a result of trying to add the hint of once per toe. On one hand, I'm sympathetic. On the other hand, if one has watched enough shows and becomes a contestant, one should be prepared in the first tier to take a breath, look for the key phrase and obvious clue, which Meredith invariably repeats, and either nail it or grasp a lifeline. Not that I don't loathe TDC, but it was far from insurmountable in this case.

However, the question need not have been any more complicated than:

Corresponding to each of a child's toes, how many little piggies are mentioned in the nursery rhyme "This Little Piggy?"

If the writers had to mention the wiggilng, then

Typically mentioned one at a time as each of a child's toes are wiggled, how many little piggies are in the nursery rhyme "This Little Piggy?"

Bottom Line: They really owe all the llamas/piggies/owls a llamarama this season.

[Appa23]

Does anyone else but me think this was a wickedly worded question for $5K/15 seconds to think, with the superfluous and confusing "once per wiggled toe" phrase added at the end?

No, because it eliminates a contestant (or BB on this Bored) from complaining, "Well,the way that I learned the nursery rhyme was . . . ."

For example, in my family, you say "little piggy" seven times, as you say for the little toe, "This little piggy, this little piggy right here, this cute little piggy right here" before tickling the toddler all of the way up to their chin area.

[earendel]

Jane Dare
Henderson, CO
Retired flight attendant

Jane was a flight attendant in the '60s through the '90s. It was a different job back in the '60s, wilder, crazy and more glamourous. Once, when a 747 had a piano in the back (because they weren't cramming in seat, back then), Kris Kristofferson and Rita Coolidge were sitting in coach and came back to do an impromptu concert.

So she's from the "Coffee, Tea or Me?" generation.

$2,000 * Finance
In finance, the "I" in the informal job title "I-banker" stands for what?

A: Investment B: Intelligence
C: Interest D: Information

With 6 seconds left, Jane decides to Ask The Audience.

ATA: A: 92% B: 1% C: 3% D: 4%

Answer

A: Investment ( 4 )

Here we go again...

$5,000 * Nursery Rhymes
Reciting the nursery rhyme "This Little Piggy" involves saying "This Little Piggy" how many times, once per wiggled toe?

A: 3 B: 4
C: 5 D: 6

Jane struggles to come up with an answer as Meredith warns her that time is running out, before saying "Three, final."

Answer

C: 5 ( 0 )

Jane: Oh! I'm thinking how many times per wiggled--

Jane leaves with $0.

-- The Horn --

This is, IMO, a poorly worded question.