Lost thread

[MarleysGh0st]

Spoiler

Looks like Sawyer was finally finding happiness as one of the Dharma hippies, and then Kate has to come back and spoil things!

But if Locke stopped the record skipping through time, are there senior citizen versions of all these characters still hiding on the island all through the original seasons of the show?

[silverscreenselect]

Spoiler

Looks like Sawyer was finally finding happiness as one of the Dharma hippies, and then Kate has to come back and spoil things!

But if Locke stopped the record skipping through time, are there senior citizen versions of all these characters still hiding on the island all through the original seasons of the show?

Spoiler

It's pretty obvious that something is going to happen between Jack's group and Sawyer's which is going to change that dynamic so they won't be staying in 1977 forever. That something might also explain why the baby born didn't die but later ones have been dying.

It's a good thing they won't be staying with the Dharmas because Ben is going to team up with the Others to wipe them out in a few years anyway. And wouldn't someone want to give the Dharmas a little bit of warning to keep their eyes and ears open and maybe not invite Ben's daddy out to be part of the Dharma bunch in the first place? Of course, that would rip the fabric of time...

At least we got to see the statue, after a fashion.

[TheCalvinator24]

Spoiler

I liked Daniel's comment, "It doesn't matter. Whatever happened, happened."

They do have to find a way to get the Losties and Juliet out of Dharma before Ben's purge, which is still several years in the future. They also have to somehow sync up Locke, who is in present time on Hydra Island with Jack, Kate, & Hurley.

It's good to know that Sayid is in past time.

I had assumed that the woman who went off in the canoe with Lapidus was Sun, but she should have flashed off the plane with the rest, so she should be in 1977.

Why has nobody mentioned that they still didn't follow the instructions to bring everyone back? Where's Aaron? Unless the thing that Kate did with Aaron somehow resulted in his being on the plane without our knowing it. As it has been said, the island has a way of course correcting.

If Sawyer "dumps" Juliet to re-kindle with Kate, I'll be really pissed at him.

[tanstaafl2]

Spoiler

I liked Daniel's comment, "It doesn't matter. Whatever happened, happened."

They do have to find a way to get the Losties and Juliet out of Dharma before Ben's purge, which is still several years in the future. They also have to somehow sync up Locke, who is in present time on Hydra Island with Jack, Kate, & Hurley.

It's good to know that Sayid is in past time.

It has been assumed that the woman who went off in the canoe with Lapidus was Sun, but why wouldn't she have flashed off the plane with the rest of the original 5, so she should be in 1977.

Why has nobody mentioned that they still didn't follow the instructions to bring everyone back? Where's Aaron? Unless the thing that Kate did with Aaron somehow resulted in his being on the plane without our knowing it. As it has been said, the island has a way of course correcting.

If Sawyer "dumps" Juliet to re-kindle with Kate, I'll be really pissed at him.

Spoiler

I know you know that some sort of interaction from this menage is a near 100% TV certainty!

How do we know Locke, Sun and Lapidus are in current time? Possible since it was described as Ben's office but that doesn't necessarily mean current time does it? Ben had the office for awhile. Could be "future" time for all we know so far unless I missed something. We are assuming it was Sun who went with Lapidus to the Big Island but perhaps that is not the case. Is Sayid is back in 1977? I can't recall from the promo. But clearly Jack et al are in the past since they met up with Sawyer. Then why would Sun be the only one not in 1977? And did the promo give a clear indication of where Ben ended up? If he is in 1977 then maybe this is how he develops the relationship with Alpert to eventually wipe out Dharma and it was Alpert who manages to insure that Ben's father gets hired on at Dharma. I presume the outriggers are the ones are intrepid time hoppers took a ride in a few epsodes back so it looks like Locke and company will be crossing over from the Hydra at some point soon.

I suppose the real purpose for Caesar and Ilana is yet to come. Charles Widmore agents perhaps?

Still would like to know the relationship between Widmore and Dannyboys mother, Eloise Hawkins. If Widmore is desperate to get to the island and knows where she is (which he does since he gave the info to Desmond) then why hasn't he returned directly to the island long ago? Is that how the freighter found it or did they locate it through some other means?

Speaking of Desmond, you just know he is going to show up again at some point. After all Eloise all but said so! But to what terribly dramatic purpose?

Since we now know Charlotte grew up on the Island, like that wasn't already pretty much a given (and apparently survived the purge), one would have to guess Dannyboy has been there before as well. Hopefully his full back story will be told at some point as well.

So many questions, so few answers...

[TheCalvinator24]

Spoiler

I liked Daniel's comment, "It doesn't matter. Whatever happened, happened."

They do have to find a way to get the Losties and Juliet out of Dharma before Ben's purge, which is still several years in the future. They also have to somehow sync up Locke, who is in present time on Hydra Island with Jack, Kate, & Hurley.

It's good to know that Sayid is in past time.

It has been assumed that the woman who went off in the canoe with Lapidus was Sun, but why wouldn't she have flashed off the plane with the rest of the original 5, so she should be in 1977.

Why has nobody mentioned that they still didn't follow the instructions to bring everyone back? Where's Aaron? Unless the thing that Kate did with Aaron somehow resulted in his being on the plane without our knowing it. As it has been said, the island has a way of course correcting.

If Sawyer "dumps" Juliet to re-kindle with Kate, I'll be really pissed at him.

Spoiler

I know you know that some sort of interaction from this menage is a near 100% TV certainty!

How do we know Locke, Sun and Lapidus are in current time? Possible since it was described as Ben's office but that doesn't necessarily mean current time does it? Ben had the office for awhile. Could be "future" time for all we know so far unless I missed something. We are assuming it was Sun who went with Lapidus to the Big Island but perhaps that is not the case. Is Sayid is back in 1977? I can't recall from the promo. But clearly Jack et al are in the past since they met up with Sawyer. Then why would Sun be the only one not in 1977? And did the promo give a clear indication of where Ben ended up? If he is in 1977 then maybe this is how he develops the relationship with Alpert to eventually wipe out Dharma and it was Alpert who manages to insure that Ben's father gets hired on at Dharma. I presume the outriggers are the ones are intrepid time hoppers took a ride in a few epsodes back so it looks like Locke and company will be crossing over from the Hydra at some point soon.

I suppose the real purpose for Caesar and Ilana is yet to come. Charles Widmore agents perhaps?

Still would like to know the relationship between Widmore and Dannyboys mother, Eloise Hawkins. If Widmore is desperate to get to the island and knows where she is (which he does since he gave the info to Desmond) then why hasn't he returned directly to the island long ago? Is that how the freighter found it or did they locate it through some other means?

Speaking of Desmond, you just know he is going to show up again at some point. After all Eloise all but said so! But to what terribly dramatic purpose?

Since we now know Charlotte grew up on the Island, like that wasn't already pretty much a given (and apparently survived the purge), one would have to guess Dannyboy has been there before as well. Hopefully his full back story will be told at some point as well.

So many questions, so few answers...

Spoiler

Ben is whenever Locke is. Locke saw him on a cot. I believe it in not contemporaneous to the other Losties because the Hydra station appears abandoned. With the scene in the Pearl from last night, one of the Dharma guys asked if the other was worried that the polar bears might find a way out of their cages. Those cages were at the Hydra.

The promo for next week shows Sayid being captured by Dharma contemporaneous to Sawyer's serving as Head of Security.

I'm reasonably certain that Ben's first meeting with Alpert was when he was traipsing through the jungle as a child.

The implication for how the freighter found the island was that the blip that occurred that allowed Penny to get to the right area also got Widmore there. Now, I'm not so sure. I think Hawking may have helped Widmore. Especially since her (their?) son was part of the team.

Logically, Sun should be in 1977, but maybe the Island had other plans for her. Man is she gonna be pissed when she can't find Jin.

[Thousandaire]

Lost is still stoopid.

I remember early in the series the producers saying the explanation for everything was not supernatural or science-fictional.

Sort of like an Obama campaign promise.

[silverscreenselect]

I remember early in the series the producers saying the explanation for everything was not supernatural or science-fictional.

My understanding of "science fictional" was that the plot resolution wasn't going to involve aliens or the fact that they were on another planet or in some kind of mythological purgatory. And especially not that at the end the whole thing would be revealed to be a dream or someone in a coma

Spoiler

which is how the British version of Life on Mars ends, with the revelation that the "time traveling" detective had never traveled in time but had been in a coma since his accident.

[smilergrogan]

I think now that both series take place in 1974, Life On Mars should end with everybody signing on with the Dharma Initiative and getting on the submarine.

[Bob78164]

Oh, good. Someone found the thread. Where was it? --Bob

[TheCalvinator24]

Oh, good. Someone found the thread. Where was it? --Bob

We had to triangulate where the thread was going to be.

[silvercamaro]

Oh, good. Someone found the thread. Where was it? --Bob

We had to triangulate where the thread was going to be.

This is where it is now, but be careful. It wasn't here in 1974.

[TheCalvinator24]

Oh, good. Someone found the thread. Where was it? --Bob

We had to triangulate where the thread was going to be.

This is where it is now, but be careful. It wasn't here in 1974.

That's because Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet.

[tanstaafl2]

I remember early in the series the producers saying the explanation for everything was not supernatural or science-fictional.

My understanding of "science fictional" was that the plot resolution wasn't going to involve aliens or the fact that they were on another planet or in some kind of mythological purgatory. And especially not that at the end the whole thing would be revealed to be a dream or someone in a coma

Spoiler

which is how the British version of Life on Mars ends, with the revelation that the "time traveling" detective had never traveled in time but had been in a coma since his accident.

Spoiler

Wasn't so much a revelation since that was certainly the leading hypothesis through out the show. The "revelation" was, as you know, what happened next!