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#26 Post by Jeemie » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:25 pm

SportsFan68 wrote:This was in today's E-mailbag. I got another one about Obama's speech that I may post in that thread.

Jindal Admits Katrina Story Was False
By Zachary Roth - February 27, 2009, 12:39PM
Looks like the game is up.
Remember that story Bobby Jindal told in his big speech Tuesday night -- about how during Katrina, he stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a local sheriff who was battling government red tape to try to rescue stranded victims?

Turns out it wasn't actually, you know, true.

In the last few days, first Daily Kos, and thenTPMmuckraker, raised serious questions about the story, based in part on the fact that no news reports we could find place Jindal in the affected area at the specific time at issue.

Jindal had described being in the office of Sheriff Harry Lee "during Katrina," and hearing him yelling into the phone at a government bureaucrat who was refusing to let him send volunteer boats out to rescue stranded storm victims, because they didn't have the necessary permits. Jindal said he told Lee, "that's ridiculous," prompting Lee to tell the bureaucrat that the rescue effort would go ahead and he or she could arrest both Lee and Jindal.

But now, a Jindal spokeswoman has admitted to Politico that in reality, Jindal overheard Lee talking about the episode to someone else by phone "days later." The spokeswoman said she thought Lee, who died in 2007, was being interviewed about the incident at the time.

This is no minor difference. Jindal's presence in Lee's office during the crisis itself was a key element of the story's intended appeal, putting him at the center of the action during the maelstrom. Just as important, Jindal implied that his support for the sheriff helped ensure the rescue went ahead. But it turns out Jindal wasn't there at the key moment, and played no role in making the rescue happen.

There's a larger point here, though. The central anecdote of the GOP's prime-time response to President Obama's speech, intended to illustrate the threat of excessive government regulation, turns out to have been made up.

Maybe it's time to rethink the premise.
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#27 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:31 pm

BigDrawMan wrote:i was listenig to an interview with sumguy who was the son of one of the "founders" of the moral majority movement.I think his name was francis schaefer.
anywho, the father ran some kind of evangelical compound in europe(when he wasnt beating his wife),
I would like you to provide your source for your claim that Francis Schaeffer ever beat his wife.

I really hope you wouldn't make such an accusation without some evidence.

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#28 Post by BigDrawMan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:40 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:i was listenig to an interview with sumguy who was the son of one of the "founders" of the moral majority movement.I think his name was francis schaefer.
anywho, the father ran some kind of evangelical compound in europe(when he wasnt beating his wife),
I would like you to provide your source for your claim that Francis Schaeffer ever beat his wife.

I really hope you wouldn't make such an accusation without some evidence.

The son is Frank Schaeffer, who has converted to Greek Orthodox.



i relayed what i heard from the interview.
the son wrote a book and was interviewed on Fresh Air.He said his dad suffered from depression, and hit his wife.

the kid said he converted because he was still a christian but wanted to belong to a church which didnt rely on a charismatic leader for its popularity,the priests are interchangeable, and the liturgy is 'timeless".


that part made me laugh
i get a tad bored hearing the same thing ever time i go to church

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#29 Post by BigDrawMan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:41 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:i was listenig to an interview with sumguy who was the son of one of the "founders" of the moral majority movement.I think his name was francis schaefer.
anywho, the father ran some kind of evangelical compound in europe(when he wasnt beating his wife),
I would like you to provide your source for your claim that Francis Schaeffer ever beat his wife.

I really hope you wouldn't make such an accusation without some evidence.

The son is Frank Schaeffer, who has converted to Greek Orthodox.



i relayed what i heard from the interview.
the son wrote a book and was interviewed on Fresh Air.He said his dad suffered from depression, and hit his wife.

the kid said he converted because he was still a christian but wanted to belong to a church which didnt rely on a charismatic leader for its popularity,the priests are interchangeable, and the liturgy is 'timeless".


that part made me laugh
i get a tad bored hearing the same thing ever time i go to church

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#30 Post by BigDrawMan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:46 pm

i can hear terry gross in my head saying you can download podcasts from the fresh air website

it was a very good interview
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#31 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:49 pm

If it's the interview about his book, Crazy for God, I'm listening to it right now.
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#32 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:29 pm

I just listened to the entire 39 minute interview. NOT ONCE did Frank Schaeffer say that his father ever hit his mother.

In law, it is said that you can't defame the dead (and Francis Schaeffer died in 1984), but making such an accusation up about someone is reprehensible.
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#33 Post by Tocqueville3 » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:52 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I just listened to the entire 39 minute interview. NOT ONCE did Frank Schaeffer say that his father ever hit his mother.

In law, it is said that you can't defame the dead (and Francis Schaeffer died in 1984), but making such an accusation up about someone is reprehensible.
Cal, when in the world have they ever worried about what is reprehensible?
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#34 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:28 am

Tocqueville3 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:I just listened to the entire 39 minute interview. NOT ONCE did Frank Schaeffer say that his father ever hit his mother.

In law, it is said that you can't defame the dead (and Francis Schaeffer died in 1984), but making such an accusation up about someone is reprehensible.
Cal, when in the world have they ever worried about what is reprehensible?
Who, exactly, is they?

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#35 Post by Jeemie » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:14 am

peacock2121 wrote:Who, exactly, is they?
That's easy!

"They" is not "us".

Understand now?
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#36 Post by ulysses5019 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:57 am

Jeemie wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:Who, exactly, is they?
That's easy!

"They" is not "us".

Understand now?

It's not me. I think.
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#37 Post by Jeemie » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:26 am

ulysses5019 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:Who, exactly, is they?
That's easy!

"They" is not "us".

Understand now?

It's not me. I think.
Maybe it's the same "they" this guy's talking about. "They" seem awfully busy!

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#38 Post by earendel » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:27 am

Jeemie wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
Jeemie wrote: That's easy!

"They" is not "us".

Understand now?

It's not me. I think.
Maybe it's the same "they" this guy's talking about. "They" seem awfully busy!

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#39 Post by Jeemie » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:31 am

earendel wrote:I've got a cure for weight loss - EAT!!
SHHH!!!

"They" don't want you to know that!

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#40 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:57 am

Jeemie wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:Who, exactly, is they?
That's easy!

"They" is not "us".

Understand now?
Then, Cal and toque are 'us'?

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#41 Post by Jeemie » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:14 am

peacock2121 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:Who, exactly, is they?
That's easy!

"They" is not "us".

Understand now?
Then, Cal and toque are 'us'?
Well, that depends on what's being discussed, probably.

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#42 Post by frogman042 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:24 am

Years ago a couple of friends and I had printed up business cards with the the word 'THEY' in big letters in the middle and the fine print on the bottom stating that the bearer of the card was one of those people who are the 'They' that you here about.

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#43 Post by Rexer25 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:31 am

frogman042 wrote:Years ago a couple of friends and I had printed up business cards with the the word 'THEY' in big letters in the middle and the fine print on the bottom stating that the bearer of the card was one of those people who are the 'They' that you here about.

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Like those "they" who are also carping about incorrect grammar and word usage?

Not to mention punctuation, <cough>bdm<cough>.
Enough already. It's my fault! Get over it!

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#44 Post by silvercamaro » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:35 am

Rexer25 wrote:
Like those "they" who are also carping about incorrect grammar and word usage?

Not to mention punctuation, <cough>bdm<cough>.
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#45 Post by frogman042 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:04 am

Rexer25 wrote:
frogman042 wrote:Years ago a couple of friends and I had printed up business cards with the the word 'THEY' in big letters in the middle and the fine print on the bottom stating that the bearer of the card was one of those people who are the 'They' that you here about.

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Like those "they" who are also carping about incorrect grammar and word usage?

Not to mention punctuation, <cough>bdm<cough>.
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