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More global warming?

#1 Post by ne1410s » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:35 pm

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Re: More global warming?

#2 Post by smilergrogan » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:54 pm

Ok, I'll bite. Snow in England in February is an argument for or against global warming why, exactly? Now if it was Easter Island, then I would be impressed.

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#3 Post by ne1410s » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:56 pm

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Ok, I'll bite. Snow in England in February is an argument for or against global warming why, exactly?
LOL. No just figured it must be unusual or it wouldn't have been in the news.
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Re: More global warming?

#4 Post by BackInTex » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:37 pm

ne1410s wrote:smiler:
Ok, I'll bite. Snow in England in February is an argument for or against global warming why, exactly?
LOL. No just figured it must be unusual or it wouldn't have been in the news.
It is unusual. Not as unusual as Al Gore speaking about global warming on a really hot day, but unusual.
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#5 Post by andrewjackson » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:37 pm

Snow at Stonehenge is not unusual. The amount of snow that London and southern England got in the last few days was unusual.
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Re: More global warming?

#6 Post by gsabc » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:53 am

When you've got no snowplows, any snow that sticks will shut down an area. It's hardly worthwhile to prepare for it when London and environs get this type of snow maybe once in 20 years.

Will Obama talk about London's wimpiness for shutting down due to a few inches of snow? :D
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Re: More global warming?

#7 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:27 am

The UK Met Office forecast last Autumn “the coming winter suggests it is, once again, likely to be milder than average. ” We have now passed the 2/3 mark of the meteorological winter, and it is time for another report card to send home. Yesterday’s press release was titled “Wintry start to February” which stated “So far, the UK winter has been the coldest for over a decade” and “Met Office forecasters expect the cold theme to the weather to continue well into next week with the chance of further snow.”
The UK is expecting the heaviest snow in about 20 years tomorrow. “Snow and freezing weather threaten to shut down Britain Arctic blizzards are set to cause a national shutdown on Monday as forecasters warn of the most widespread snowfall for almost 20 years.” “Now is the time you’d expect to see the daffodils coming out but we’re not expecting them for two or three weeks at best if it warms up.“
So why is this important? Climate is not weather, after all. The Met Office is one of the most vocal advocates of human induced global warming, and they have gotten into a consistent pattern of warm seasonal forecasts which seemingly fall in line with that belief system. Is it possible that their forecasts are unduly influenced by preconceived notions about the climate? It is worth remembering that London had it’s first October snow in 70 years this past autumn.
Or perhaps they know exactly what they are doing, and are just having a several year run of extremely bad luck with their long term forecasting.
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Re: More global warming?

#8 Post by eyégor » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:33 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
The UK Met Office forecast last Autumn “the coming winter suggests it is, once again, likely to be milder than average. ” We have now passed the 2/3 mark of the meteorological winter, and it is time for another report card to send home. Yesterday’s press release was titled “Wintry start to February” which stated “So far, the UK winter has been the coldest for over a decade” and “Met Office forecasters expect the cold theme to the weather to continue well into next week with the chance of further snow.”
The UK is expecting the heaviest snow in about 20 years tomorrow. “Snow and freezing weather threaten to shut down Britain Arctic blizzards are set to cause a national shutdown on Monday as forecasters warn of the most widespread snowfall for almost 20 years.” “Now is the time you’d expect to see the daffodils coming out but we’re not expecting them for two or three weeks at best if it warms up.“
So why is this important? Climate is not weather, after all. The Met Office is one of the most vocal advocates of human induced global warming, and they have gotten into a consistent pattern of warm seasonal forecasts which seemingly fall in line with that belief system. Is it possible that their forecasts are unduly influenced by preconceived notions about the climate? It is worth remembering that London had it’s first October snow in 70 years this past autumn.
Or perhaps they know exactly what they are doing, and are just having a several year run of extremely bad luck with their long term forecasting.

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