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Re: Colorado Politics Thread, nothing to see here (Sportsfan68)

#26 Post by christie1111 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:27 pm

WheresFanny wrote:
christie1111 wrote:Oh that all the political threads can be as civilized as this!

How refreshing!
I think it might be because we are interested in asking the opinions of others to perhaps learn something instead of posting solely to denigrate or find an opening to force our opinions on others. Maybe it's just me. Ha!

Welcome to Colorado, beyotch!

(I feel a little weird about addressing christie as 'beyotch' but hope she knows the spirit in which it is given.)
From you, I accept it as a compliment.
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#27 Post by WheresFanny » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:34 am

christie1111 wrote:From you, I accept it as a compliment.
And didn't you see, I am a Bronco's fan now!
I, however, am not. Raiders, baby!

But sprots still talks to me! See how civilized Coloradoans are?
We, the HK Brigade, do hereby salute you, Marley, for your steadfast devotion to ontopicosity. Well done, sir!

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Re: Colorado Politics Thread, nothing to see here (Sportsfan68)

#28 Post by Bob Juch » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:09 pm

WheresFanny wrote:
christie1111 wrote:From you, I accept it as a compliment.
And didn't you see, I am a Bronco's fan now!
I, however, am not. Raiders, baby!

But sprots still talks to me! See how civilized Coloradoans are?
I knew there was something I like about you!

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Re: Colorado Politics Thread, nothing to see here (Sportsfan68)

#29 Post by Spock » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:02 pm

Sprots>>>By voting YES on 58 we make the common sense decision to stop
giving the wealthiest companies in the world huge tax breaks in
Colorado.<<<

I have been thinking about this post for awhile. First of all, I am not familiar with the specifics of the bill-but on the surface-I concede or recognize that a YES vote might be good idea and I would seriously consider such a vote-if I lived in Co.

My question/comment relates more to the "Wealthiest companies" comment. I have been learning a lot about the oil and gas industry (Chiefly interested in the drilling side) in the last few months ie listening to conference calls and so forth. It is absolutely fascinating to me.

My impression is that the majors do not have a significant presence in Colorado-(IIRC-one of the majors has an long-term oil shale test going on)-Based on my impressions the typical driller in Colorado is a smaller-to mid-size company. I just question how much of a presence the Majors (ie wealthiest companies in the world) have on the ground in Colorado.

You might get a kick out of some the comments from companies that are not in Colorado (or the Rockies) and instead are focused on places like Texas/Gulf Coast. They tend to say that they are very glad not to be there because of the environmental restrictions/closed areas etc.

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Re: Colorado Politics Thread, nothing to see here (Sportsfan68)

#30 Post by SportsFan68 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:49 am

Spock wrote:Sprots>>>By voting YES on 58 we make the common sense decision to stop
giving the wealthiest companies in the world huge tax breaks in
Colorado.<<<

I have been thinking about this post for awhile. First of all, I am not familiar with the specifics of the bill-but on the surface-I concede or recognize that a YES vote might be good idea and I would seriously consider such a vote-if I lived in Co.

My question/comment relates more to the "Wealthiest companies" comment. I have been learning a lot about the oil and gas industry (Chiefly interested in the drilling side) in the last few months ie listening to conference calls and so forth. It is absolutely fascinating to me.

My impression is that the majors do not have a significant presence in Colorado-(IIRC-one of the majors has an long-term oil shale test going on)-Based on my impressions the typical driller in Colorado is a smaller-to mid-size company. I just question how much of a presence the Majors (ie wealthiest companies in the world) have on the ground in Colorado.

You might get a kick out of some the comments from companies that are not in Colorado (or the Rockies) and instead are focused on places like Texas/Gulf Coast. They tend to say that they are very glad not to be there because of the environmental restrictions/closed areas etc.
Significant compared to Texas, no. Significant compared to the rest of Colorado, yes. Their presence is huge, economically, politically, and any other way you can name because of the revenue they generate. Thanks to natural gas revenues, the Southern Ute Indian Tribe, once among the poorest in the nation, now has an estimated net worth of anywhere from $1 to $4 billion. It's hard to say -- being a sovereign nation and all, they're not subject to the same reporting requirements as the rest of us. That's probably the low rent district compared to a major Houston operation, but in Colorado, it vaults them into premier status as an economic and political force, employer, benefactor, investor, you name it.
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