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christie1111 · #26 Post by **christie1111** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:53 am

If you think their enunciation or pronunciation makes them sound ignorant, go look in a mirror.

WTF?

Have we ever met? Spoken?

Go pound sand.

BackInTex · #27 Post by **BackInTex** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:04 am

christie1111 wrote:
If you think their enunciation or pronunciation makes them sound ignorant, go look in a mirror.
WTF?

Have we ever met? Spoken?

Go pound sand.

[pounding sand]Are you taking that personal? Geesh! Do you consider yourself 'a bunch'? This was not directed to any one individual. This topic has been around a while. You are not special.

Maybe your problem is that you don't TRY to understand what people are saying before you judge what they are. I will try to type s....l.....o....w....e.....r f....o.....r y.....o.....u.

My comment, by including 8-9 different locations, is intended to show that almost everyone will sound ingnorat to someone. And yes, including you. But given the above, It is more likely by what you say rather than how.

[/sand pounded]

christie1111 · #28 Post by **christie1111** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:18 am

Maybe I just take offense at sweeping generalization.

Whatever.....

I am going to go start cooking lunch for the Lounge.

Looks like we are going to need lots of food and drink today.

I anticipate a big crowd.

BackInTex · #29 Post by **BackInTex** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:24 am

christie1111 wrote:Maybe I just take offense at sweeping generalization.

Like this?

I use ignorant as a term for people who do not know, or in the case of people who should, do not care to learn, what they should.

Yeah, guess I do, too.

christie1111 · #30 Post by **christie1111** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:56 am

BackInTex wrote:
christie1111 wrote:Maybe I just take offense at sweeping generalization.

Like this?

I use ignorant as a term for people who do not know, or in the case of people who should, do not care to learn, what they should.
Yeah, guess I do, too.

How is that a generalization?

I made a statement of how I define a word.

wintergreen48 · #31 Post by **wintergreen48** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:57 am

I'm a little perturbed about the tone of some of this, which been along the lines of criticizing 'ugly Americans [i.e., people who disagree with me on political stuff and are probably not too bright] who mispronounce the names of other countries.'

If you really want to pick nits, I would respectfully suggest that no one here, ugly or beautiful American or otherwise, regularly pronounces the name of Iraq correctly: while the focus in this thread is on the (mis)pronunciation of the vowels, I would respectfully suggest that most-- if not all-- of the people on this Bored probably mispronounce the final consonant as well: in Arabic, it is pronounced as an uvular fricative that simply does not exist in (modern) English, and I suspect that everyone here-- and throughout North America-- pronounces it instead as a velar plosive, like the usual English letter 'k.' That is technically incorrect, just as the mispronunciation of the vowels is incorrect.

Why it is significant or necessary to point out-- critically-- that 'some people' (again, as it happens, it is invariably said of people with whom one disagrees on certain issues) mispronounce the vowels of the word, when the ones pointing this out are themselves (I would bet) mispronouncing the most distinctive sound in the word?

And why stop with 'Iraq'? I mean, jeez, does anyone here refer to the capital of 'Frawntse' as 'pah-REE' (with a rolled, nasal, somewhat guttural 'r,' and with the accent on the second syllable), except in a joking context? I suspect that everyone here refers to 'MAHSSE-scow' as the capital of 'RUSH-a,' but the people who actually live in the country of 'rawsse-SEE-ya' (accent on the second of three syllables, not on the first of two syllables) have, for centuries, called the city 'musk-VAH' (accent on the second syllable, not the first). And the people of the country whose capital is pronounced 'BEHR-leen' do not pronounce the country's name 'JER-muh-nee,' they call it 'DOITSCH-lundt.'

If you are going to point out the mote in your (politically stupid) neighbor's eye, I think it is wisest to look out for the beam in your own, first.

Duh Mass · #32 Post by **Duh Mass** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:00 am

What's with all this talk here about pernunciation? That isn't an American value, is it?

BackInTex · #33 Post by **BackInTex** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:04 am

christie1111 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
christie1111 wrote:Maybe I just take offense at sweeping generalization.

Like this?

I use ignorant as a term for people who do not know, or in the case of people who should, do not care to learn, what they should.
Yeah, guess I do, too.
How is that a generalization?

I made a statement of how I define a word.

No. You defined how you use the word and you use it like a big broom. You do not, by your definition, try to understand the indivisuals' circumstances, background, etc. and it is you that gets to define what people should care to learn.

Liquistic Snob · #34 Post by **Liquistic Snob** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:14 am

BackInTex wrote:A bunch of liquistic snobs here...

Sir, I am the only liquistic snob here. The lesser states, i.e. the solids and the gaseous, aspire to the greatness of liquids, but always fall short. An appreciation of the true wonder of liquistic fineness is far beyond most beings.

Chronic Diarrhea · #35 Post by **Chronic Diarrhea** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:15 am

Liquistic Snob wrote:
BackInTex wrote:A bunch of liquistic snobs here...
Sir, I am the only liquistic snob here. The lesser states, i.e. the solids and the gaseous, aspire to the greatness of liquids, but always fall short. An appreciation of the true wonder of liquistic fineness is far beyond most beings.

Sorry LS, but I'd have to say I prefer the solid state....

Ooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Spock · #36 Post by **Spock** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:22 am

"Tum Lakri Lakri Tum"

I am reminded in this thread of my favorite author (GMF) in his memoir of the war in Burma (Quartered Safe Out Here).

He cited an example of how the British soldier was capable of butchering Urdu.

I always find it amusing to think of it.

"You would Would You"

was said in the 14th Army as "Tum Lakri Lakri Tum.

Urdu respectively for "You" and "Wood."

TheConfessor · #37 Post by **TheConfessor** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:01 pm

BackInTex wrote:A bunch of liquistic snobs here.

Not me. I drink water straight from the kitchen faucet.

ghostjmf · #38 Post by **ghostjmf** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:16 pm

My Candidate, with whom I am not in love but for whom I am gonna vote, says "Massatusetts". Since they were President or Captain or Editor or whatever the heck it was of the RichU Law Review, they have to have spent some time in the state. Maybe they think its funny. Maybe its their private way of Getting Back at something.

Various (neighborhood-you-were-raised-in-dependent) locals say a lot of weird things (Like pronoucing lotsa ess-sounds as zees; Quincy, a local suburb, is Quinzy, which always slays me, but I say it too 'cause that's its name; they also say 'gaz' for gas, but then so does my Detroiter Mom) but "Massatusetts" is not one of them.

TheConfessor · #39 Post by **TheConfessor** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:30 am

I'm watching Fox News now. They invited Governor Palin to answer some of the questions she stumbled on with Katie Couric. In that more supportive environment, she was able to recall a Supreme Court ruling against Louisiana executing some criminal. She said that decision was "hee-nee-us."

peacock2121 · #40 Post by **peacock2121** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:00 am

BackInTex wrote:A bunch of liquistic snobs here.

If you want to talk mispronunciation lets start with the Kennedy's, or anyone from Boston, Brooklyn, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Alabama, Georgia, East Texas (and I'm not talking about Iraq), Louisiana, or Canada.

Geesh. Focus on what people say, what they mean. If you think their enunciation or pronunciation makes them sound ignorant, go look in a mirror.

BiT and I agree on yet another thing.

I wouldn't have told you the mirror and ignorant thing, though.

peacock2121 · #41 Post by **peacock2121** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:02 am

christie1111 wrote:
If you think their enunciation or pronunciation makes them sound ignorant, go look in a mirror.
WTF?

Have we ever met? Spoken?

Go pound sand.

Damn, I wish I had been here to watch this unfold.

I am not so happy that it involved you, christie. You are too sweet for this.

peacock2121 · #42 Post by **peacock2121** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:03 am

BackInTex wrote:
christie1111 wrote:
If you think their enunciation or pronunciation makes them sound ignorant, go look in a mirror.
WTF?

Have we ever met? Spoken?

Go pound sand.
[pounding sand]Are you taking that personal? Geesh! Do you consider yourself 'a bunch'? This was not directed to any one individual. This topic has been around a while. You are not special.

Maybe your problem is that you don't TRY to understand what people are saying before you judge what they are. I will try to type s....l.....o....w....e.....r f....o.....r y.....o.....u.

My comment, by including 8-9 different locations, is intended to show that almost everyone will sound ingnorat to someone. And yes, including you. But given the above, It is more likely by what you say rather than how.

[/sand pounded]

Now that was a little teeny bit condescending.

I wouldn't hate it if it were directed at someone other than christie.

peacock2121 · #43 Post by **peacock2121** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:05 am

TheConfessor wrote:
BackInTex wrote:A bunch of liquistic snobs here.
Not me. I drink water straight from the kitchen faucet.

That was cute.

christie1111 · #44 Post by **christie1111** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:05 am

Pea, yes, I did not enjoy that at all.

So I chose to go cook in the M. Lounge instead.

I enjoy that much more.

BackInTex · #45 Post by **BackInTex** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:41 am

christie1111 wrote:Pea, yes, I did not enjoy that at all.

So I chose to go cook in the M. Lounge instead.

I enjoy that much more.

Yes, but you intentionally put out a menu with many unpronouncable dishes, and didn't have a numbering scheme for us to order by.

Spanikopita
Tyropitas
Dolmades
haloumi
Tsatsiki
avgolemono

She was taunting folks, in the moritorium lounge, of all places.

DevilKitty100 · #46 Post by **DevilKitty100** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:54 am

BackInTex wrote:
christie1111 wrote:Pea, yes, I did not enjoy that at all.

So I chose to go cook in the M. Lounge instead.

I enjoy that much more.

Yes, but you intentionally put out a menu with many unpronouncable dishes, and didn't have a numbering scheme for us to order by.

Spanikopita
Tyropitas
Dolmades
haloumi
Tsatsiki
avgolemono

She was taunting folks, in the moritorium lounge, of all places.

I wouldn't consider anyone any more ignorant for mispronouncing something any more than I'd call them ignorant for misspelling something. Say, moratorium for example.

Stuff happens.

peacock2121 · #47 Post by **peacock2121** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:44 pm

DevilKitty100 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
christie1111 wrote:Pea, yes, I did not enjoy that at all.

So I chose to go cook in the M. Lounge instead.

I enjoy that much more.

Yes, but you intentionally put out a menu with many unpronouncable dishes, and didn't have a numbering scheme for us to order by.

Spanikopita
Tyropitas
Dolmades
haloumi
Tsatsiki
avgolemono

She was taunting folks, in the moritorium lounge, of all places.
I wouldn't consider anyone any more ignorant for mispronouncing something any more than I'd call them ignorant for misspelling something. Say, moratorium for example.

Stuff happens.

Zing