BackInTex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:38 am
Weyoun wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:44 am
Beebs52 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:04 pm
Weyoun, you first said it
"But beyond that, I do not really care about the issue, because I don’t care about marginal Ivy League sports"
Regardless of the school, which you also mischaracterized, swimming is not "marginal" nor confined to Ivy League competitions.
When was the last time SportsCenter covered ivy league sports that were not football or basketball or the Beanpot?
I realize you and that blowhard are just arguing just to argue this point, but
no one would’ve cared about this athletic event had it not been for the transgender athlete involved.
The fact that folks like you get the vapors over this essentially irrelevant athletic event while
ignoring much larger problems in society is pretty much all I need to know about your clown political views.
First, you are correct. I wouldn't have even known about this particular event just like you didn't know about the particular event that caused the death of a friend of mine at church. Though I did have two daughters who competed at the collegiate level, one in swimming and one in track that makes the issue a personal one. I'm not ignoring what I think is a large and growing problem in society because there are others, thus this and my initial thread. Are you a single issue person?
There are many problems in society. Whether they are larger than this is a personal ranking. I can't rank this one against others such has growing crime and the lack of accountability, homelessness, loss of family values, etc. It's like trying to rank having a bullet through the head or through the heart. I believe they are all detrimental to our society and I believe it is devolving as a result.
Just as an experiment, could you try arguing with me by arguing the actual facts, instead of (1) suggesting I’m a terrible parent or (2) a dangerous, incompetent professional?
Just give it a shot. I know might be a stretch for you, but I think you might like the idea of actually engaging someone else on the intellectual level.
I'll answer 2) first. You've held yourself out as the expert, without fault, and dismissed anything contrary to your authoritative opinion. You've called those who disagree with your "facts" idiots. This is where I get the "arrogance" tag for you from. As I've commented before, I nearly died because of such arrogance, a doctor who would not even consider facts presented to him that might mean his initial diagnosis is wrong, because I was not a doctor (I ended up being right, and likely a day or two away from dying or at least not being able to fully recover). I see your similar arrogance displayed here and if that arrogance here is also how you are in your practice, I view you the same as my previous doctor, dangerous. Hopefully you are not and you listen to your patients and consider the possibilities that the A+B+C = D you've learned in medical school and your years in practice is not always correct, because maybe B was really b.
There are plenty of medical doctors out there who will disagree with many of your "facts". None of them deny there is Covid, and people are getting sick and many are dying. I don't think anyone here has done that. However many are do not feel the restrictions (masks, business closures, etc.) are effective enough to warrant some of the draconian measures implemented by our government (and many of those abroad).
I don't have time to go back through the many threads to see who fired the first shot. But I'm willing to call a truce on the insults, if you are.
1) As I said above, I had two daughters who competed in athletics, and both have daughters of their own now who, based solely on the genes they should have received from them and their husbands, will be in competitive athletics as well. So this is a personal issue. I should have just stated my opinion about the advice and left it at that.
I’ve never held myself out as an expert, without fault.
I have held myself out as an *expert*. We’ve been dealing with a disease for approaching two years, yes, you will develop an expertise in it.
It does not mean I cannot be wrong about certain things, but the debate needs to be at that level, and not at a personal level.
I also, and I mean this is nice as possible, know more about medicine then the entirety of the regular posters here do, combined. That’s because I have a professional degree in it and I practice it every day. If your professional degree is in accounting, the rest of us would not know as much about accounting as you would.
And that’s ok! That’s not arrogance. That’s simply called expertise.
I’m sorry you had a bad experience with another doctor. As someone who works in the emergency department and sees what happens when people get bad care, and then heads our direction, I do empathize with that.
That doesn’t mean I’m a bad doctor, however. My organization actually offered me a quality director position recently because they appreciate how thoroughly I work up patients and look for shortfalls in their care. I will be turning it down, because I’m already tapped out. I’m not sure if I could see myself practicing medicine two years and now based on the amount of badness I’ve seen happen in 2020 and in 2021.
I appreciate your offer for truce. Please understand I have absolutely zero problems with people questioning whether at the facts I am quoting are accurate. Studies can be difficult to interpret. There are a lot of variables.
I just don’t appreciate the actions of some who simply refuse to listen to me, call me arrogant, when I think a lot of the problem is the message, not the messenger.
I think you even tip off part of the reason in your post. I have not talked about lockdowns or mask mandates in any significant amount.
There’s a lot of social stuff people are worried about with Covid and it clouds their sense of what is going on in hospitals. Plus just fatigue about it all.
Anyway, I will avoid the personal swipes toward you if you do likewise. If you I feel I’m wrong about something regarding Covid, I don’t have an issue with it being pointed out. But explain why am wrong, and don’t just treat me like I’m an arrogant jackass.